>I've noticed that there are times when I initiate a shutdown as root where
>the gpm program (mouse support) seems to hang the shutdown process. If I
>manually kill gpm prior to initiating shutdown, then things work fine. Any
>idea why this is so and how to correct it?
Dunno, but you could expl
>Jacek,
> The file you want to edit is called crontab. You should read up on it
>and cron. You will need to add a line like the following to the crontab
>file.
>
>00 04 * * * root /sbin/shutdown -h now
Actually you want to run
crontab -e
(e is for edit)
and copy Steve's line above o
>2.0.34 is the lastest stable version.it was just released afew days ago
>and I have had no problems with it at all.
2.0.29 was lauded as a most stable kernel. However, a number of serious
security problems (F00F on pentia and other DoS attacks) have rendered it
unsafe for non-standalone syst
> jl> i am using a REDHAT LINUX 2.0.32 kernel w/ Apache 1.2.5 and perl
> jl> 5004.04 and want to know if there is a way I can make perl
> jl> full-time resident instead of just launching when apache needs
> jl> it? It seems to be quite slow when calls area made.
>
> jl> I have 36M of ram on
>The more traditional way (and, IMHO, best way) is to write a script, and
>then
>have crond kick off that script.
... and it makes things easier to test, because you can just run it from the
command line as easy as pi.
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>What is a zombie process and how do I get rid of it?
A parent process may, at some point in its lifetime, spawn a child process
that does some work. Eventually, the child exits, and returns a status code
to the parent, as an indication of success/failure/whatever.
Now, in order for that status
>anyone know how to setup cron to receive email from the owner of the
account
>and for cron to run a process to send all the web stats to another email
>address?
>
>specifically i want to do this:
>
>1)issue a email from my desk at work to my email account on my linux box
>telling cron to issue a
>sorry but I want to change the priority of a process , for ex : inetd..
I doubt you want to change the priority of inetd itself... but anyway,
man nice
will tell you all you need to know.
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> You must have Advanced Power Management support in the kernel,
>"Power off on Shutdown" in the APM section, and also APM enabled in the
>BIOS.
I have done this, and it works... to a certain extent.
That is, when you run shutdown -h now, the system shuts down, and you see
"System halted"
>Well I am a new linux user. I was wondering what you guys think is the best
window manager?? I would need >one that doesnt use up much ram also.
someone recently mentioned that they still use twm. I used it about six
years ago. In a nutshell, you drive it by clicking on the desktop and
bringing
>What shell are you using? At least in (t)csh, you have either to use the
>"rehash" command or to log out and log in again to get the shell to find
new
>programs. I don't know if bash behaves similar or not, maybe somebode else
can
>fill in here... :-)
IIRC, you only have to rehash under bach whe
> I found out the equivalent of DOS' "%1" is "$1" in Linux, but "ls
>$1" doesn't work...
You are correct. What do you mean by "doesn't work"?... Do you have
#!/bin/sh
ls $1
Has it a protection mask of 755? (chmod 755 myscript). If it is in the
current directory, rather th
>Does any one can tell me what means CGI's?
>Thanks a lot, sorry for the ingnorance...
CGI == Common Gateway Interface. It is a set of specifications for programs
can generate HTML on the fly for sending dynamic-content pages to a browser.
See http://www.w3c.org/CGI/ for more info.
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>Hello,
>Would anyone know of a way to post something via commandline to a
>remote CGI script? I want to have something automaitcally sent to my
>cell phone via an online messaging center.. Thanks..
It boils down into telnetting to (probably) port 80 on a remote site, and
squirting a carefully cr
>I just reinstalled RedHat do to redo the directory structures. After
>restarting I began to get the message
>"Sorry, ppp not supported by this kernel"
>I installed the stock redhat kernel which I believe has ppp in it. Any
>ideas??
Belief is not sufficient. You need certainty! Does
d
>> How to delete --help file.
>
>rm -- --help
rm ./--help
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>what is the correct sytax for importing the system date and time into a
bash >script?
>
>I need to assign this to variable that I can manipulate.
TODAY = $(date)
YESTERDAY = `date --yesterday`
echo "Today is $TODAY"
echo "Yesterday was $YESTERDAY"
You use backticks to capture the output of a pr
> If you are sure you have all the dependencies installed, and RPM
>reports
>failed dependencies, try this:
>
>rpm -i --nodeps [package]
[...]
>> failed dependencies:
>> /bin/sh is needed by XFree86-libs-3.3.2-5
Do you have the latest version of RPM itself? This error is usuall
>I am curious as to how all of you manage these emails in this list.
Heh, well, I am reading this using MS-Exchange on NT. It has an "inbox
assistant", that lets me move redhat messages to their own folder. Other
rules check for text strings in the subject header; messages which match any
of thes
>> A newbie wants to replace the rh v4.2 stock kernel with a 2.0.32-2
kernel.
>> Where should he look for a howto procedure for handling the new rpm
>> kernel,kernel-header,and kernel-modules?
>
>http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/kernel-upgrade-intel.html
The HOWTO itself is also anoth
>I think netscape 4.0x has a memory leak. I'm using 4.03 (obtained
>quite some time ago directly from Netscape) and the longer it runs the
>more memory I find in use. I've got 32MB of RAM and 40MB of swap, and
Well, if it's any comfort, it's a platform-independent bug. I have
experienced the same
>> HUaspro /dev/ttyC4 895203401 Start
>> **END** /dev/ttyC4 895203526 Stop
>> HUneria /dev/ttyC4 895206271 Start
>
>This is the number of seconds since Jan 01, 1970. You can calculate this
value
>using "date +%s" to find the current time in seconds.
>
>To go the other way, you'd either need some
>It was --nodeps!! Thanks for the speedy response...now, what in the heck
>was that about...why is it calling for /bin/sh -- this is just
>curiositya bug maybe?
This message is in fact a side effect of using an old version of RPM itself.
Install the latest version and you will never be bother
>I'm looking for tools that let an application build
>dynamically-generated web pages from a database. Ideally I'd like to use
>Apache as the web server, but that isn't essential.
>
>All the tools I've found so far are for Windows or NT. Any pointers to
>tools which will run under Linux would be a
>How can I format a floppy disk in DOS format ?
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/fd0H1440
change this for MS-DOS, see what your mkfs man page says
... and then you'll be able to mount it.
This information appears in the DOS/Win to Linux HOWTO.
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>Do you know of a URL that points to these versions of the FHS?
I think you'll find what you're looking for at
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/1.2/fsstnd-toc.html
[...]
>Sorry if this is another ignorant question but... What is WRT inter
>operability?
'with respect to'
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>I dont know if this is the right place to post this,but since i got Red Hat
4.1
>here it goes.How can I make a file then ends in pl,execute in any
directory,
>when its called from a browser window?For example
>FILE:home/user/some.pl
>or
>http://www.host.com/~user/some.pl
>
>Can this be possib
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>
> I dont know if this is the right place to post this,but since i got Red
> Hat 4.1
> here i
>> Just curious how is the cua devices depreciated? What exactly do you
mean?
>
>Their value is being reduced on the books, thereby giving us a tax
>writeoff. :)
>
>They are deprecated because at some point in the future they will stop
>working. I don't know when. So you will have to use the t
> I was wondering what is the limit of web site domains a single linux
box
>can handle? Say the load is just a few small pages per hour for each of the
>sites. Or heck even through hardware out of the loop for a second. What is
>the max that linux and apache can handle? 10? 100? 1000?
Some
> I remember a long time ago, I saw
> somebody pass an argument to a script
> from prompt. As far as I remember, the
> person was dialing different locations,
> and didn't want to edit the script's
> variable by editing the file every time
> he wanted to
>> Yeah. I think most people on the list use a news page,
>
>but not all!
>
>> like slashdot,
>> infoworld or whatever to keep abreast of tech news in general
>
>personally, I welcome the ocasional reference to these articles. I don't
>have the time to go browsing around the various news pages f
>The saga continues... If these news stories are becoming cumbersome, would
>someone please let me know?
Yeah. I think most people on the list use a news page, like slashdot,
infoworld or whatever to keep abreast of tech news in general and MicroSoft
in particular. Hell, most news pages have the
>Has anyone seen this before: a PPP connection dialing from a Linux box,
to a
>Linux box over a 33.6K permanent PPP connection where everything works for
a
>while (5 - 30 minutes) and then the connection starts to get REALLY slow
(ping
>times around 600 - 2000ms) and then the connection drop
>Sometimes i get this error :
>"too many open files in system"
>causing my system to fail.
>How do I increase the number of files ?
Try something like this as root:
root# cat /proc/sys/kernel/file-max
1024
root# echo 4096 >/proc/sys/kernel/file-max
That should shut it up
>I'm not sure when it broke, but all of a sudden the who command dumps core
>every time I try to run it. I thought maybe it became corrupted somehow, so
>I took the who command off of another RH5 machine that runs it fine, and it
>still dumps core with the new one.
yeah, it's a bug that crops up
>> it doesn't work, (cd /source;tar cf - ./)|(cd /dest;tar xvf -) might do
as
> >> well.
> Work..
>
> But
> (cd /source;tar cf - ./)|(cd /dest;tar xvpf -) should be better
And
> (cd /source && tar cf - ./)|(cd /dest && tar xvpf -)
>
will be even better still, like I said
>Trying to move /usr directory to a second hard drive. When doing cp -r -p *
>am receiving errors that: "cannot copy cyclic symbolic link".
cp gets a bit lost by symlinks. Or maybe it is me who gets confused by cp.
Basically, I shun using cp -r. Try something like:
(cd /usr && tar cf - .) | (cd
>First the guy who used to manage the server before has made a batch to make
>an easy backup of the system on a DAT tape. The main command is
>dump 0sf 61000 /dev/st0 /
Dunno. Have you read dump's man page?
[...]
>The second ( probably stupid ) question is : what is the alias which='type
>-path
> I am running Redhat Linux 4.1 on an Intel box, and need to allow a few
> non-root users to change users passwords, and user accounts, etc.
However,
> I don't want these non-root users to have access to the root account and
> privileges. I would appreciate any pointers and/or advices here.
Br
I just inherited a Montage FR1 film recorder.
Has anyone ever heard of one of these? Hooked one up to a Linux box? (It's
not in the Hardware HOWTO).
I'd love to get it running one of these days. Seems like I need to acquire a
SCSI card, but I fear I'm going to be out of luck acquiring a driver f
>Can I set up a seperate MOTD per user?
IIRC, /etc/motd is cat'ed from an /etc/rc.d/ file (perhaps rc.sysinit or
rc.local). Assuming you don't want to use their .profile, where they could
edit it out, you could create a directory, e.g., /etc/motds and then create
motd files named by user. Thus, i
The following cropped up on NEWLIST this week. It turns out Time magazine is
preparing a Man of the Century (tough luck about you women!) top ten for
their magazine. Now I don't really see the point in subscribing to the
mailing list, but you can do your duty by voting for Linus at
http:/
>> >Just heard them announce that they'll be interviewing some Linux people
on
>> >NPR. If you know your station and want to listen, they'll be talking in
a
>> >few minutes
>>
>> Transcription please.
>
> I don't have RA installed (no sound card) but you can still get
>the file off of
>anyone else evr had this problem or are there some strange properties to
>this file?
You are doing something wrong. A shell alias, a clobbered file, a control
character in the file name, a truncated file, it's not really a stripped
32-bit ELF executable, a weird symlink... the list goes on.
It
>Are general linux questions off-topic here? I'm trying to automate some
>tasks, one of which is detailed below:
Many people around here (myself included) enjoy solving these sorts of
problems.
>With the following commands in a shell script, I want to search for files
>that have been modified on
>Just heard them announce that they'll be interviewing some Linux people on
>NPR. If you know your station and want to listen, they'll be talking in a
>few minutes
Transcription please.
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>> Just need a quick pointer on where linux goes when booting up, I want to
>> get rid of the realplayer stuff I included when I installed RH5.
Something
>> like the autoexec.bat I guess.
>
>There are several configuration files that get read during system boot.
>See the /etc/rc.d/init.d directory
> drive. Assuming you mount the root partition on the second
> drive on /mnt, you could:
>
> # cd /
> # tar cfpBl . - | (cd /mnt; tar xfpB - )
^
When using this idiom, remember that the correct incantation is
> # tar cfpBl . - | (cd
>mostly I guess there's nothing wrong with using one partition for
>everything on a desktop machine that is just that. When I first started
>using linux, I did that (actually, my current desk top still does that..it
There's a variant on this approach, in that you start off with swap and /
partiti
>>ls -alR /home/higginbo | grep "`date '+%b %_d'`" | mail higginbo
>> ^^^
>>This eliminates the need for a temporary file.
>
>Ah, yes, someone told me about this too, but I plan on modifying this basic
>script to handle other operations as well.
>Currently I lig in as a user, then I have to open an Eterm, then I make a
>
>xhost +localhost
>
>then
>
>su
>
>and then as su I start ezppp. So can someone suggest what to do, that ezppp
>would automagically start as root when I login as a user? Or just the
>explicit one user who is allowed t
>I have olds programs on Perl 4 running under FreeBSD and I want to bring
>them back on my new Linux RH5 box but I don't want to convert them for
>Perl5... Is there a Perl 4 binary for RH or I must find the original
>sources and compile them. And if it's the case do I need a patch or
>something o
>I want to offer my web customers the ability to point
>their domains to their web pages on my server. They
>currently access their pages using the standard
>
>http://my.domain.com/~username
>
>format. I want them to keep this format for their
>address, but, also be able to point
>
>http://www.t
>I found a pretty good site with all the files via FTP from a local mirror
>site (instead of ID's page). There is some other quake stuff there as
>well. Go to :-
>
>http://www.min.net/~douglas/
See also
http://linuxquake.telefragged.com/
http://www.botik.ru/~roma/quake/
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>Adding aliases to the dist, IMO, would be very bad. People would use dir,
>or md, or whatever, without ever knowing the corresponding Linux commands.
>What would motivate people to learn the OS this way?
Ok, what about
$ cat dir
echo I think you meant ls... (see: 'man ls')
Jumping in late here, I was on holidays...
>I'm afraid I need to disagree with this. I picked up linux mostly because
>I wanted to have some understanding of unix, but it does have potential to
>be a desktop os. Think about the ease of use complaints, the original
>poster complained about not kno
>I am currentlly running RedHat Linux version 4.2 with kernel 2.0.32.
>What advantages are there to upgrading to version 5.0? Are there any
>disadvantages?
Personally I'm holding off upgrading to 5.0 until something major forces me
to, like a hardware upgrade. For now 4.2 is perfectly functional
>I personally found the RedHat docs pretty easy to follow, and at the time
>my first install of RedHat and I was new to Unix. After reading on the web
>and asking a few colleagues I managed to install it over a weekend and
>learnt lots from my mistakes :)
It's like the old software dictum: build
>Just have to chime in here.
>
>Who the bloody hell reads the @#%^ing manual?! Pleezze.
I am bizarre. I *like* reading manuals.
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> I was wondering if anyone has run into the following problem
>with
>Lynx under RH5.
> When downloading a file using Lynx everything appears to be
>working fine until the end of the download. Then Lynx basically
>treats
>the file as if it was a standard text download. It just displa
books are miles away from here.
Thanks,
David
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>Has anyone encountered the following Lynx problem? When
downloading
>using the standard Lynx that comes with 5.0 it will sometimes not ask
to
>download the file and basically assume the file is some kind of text
based
>link. This happened last night when I was trying to get jdk-1.1.5 of
of
>Perhaps we can find something that is the most minimal OS that >exists,
>and what this provides, defines the mimimal requirement for
>classification as an OS.
WOOOHOOO! We haven't had a thread like this for ages!
If you power on an IBM-PC without a boot disk, it will eventually drop
into a Basi
>Theres a way to turn the number lock on by default, i remember someone
>posting something to the list a while back. It involves editing one of
>the linux source c files. Does anyone know how to do this ?
C? You can do it from a shell script. I'm not at my home machine, but
basically you just r
>Well, guess I deserve what I got for sharing root access with someone I
>trusted.
>
>They inadvertantly changed alot of permissions and now its
^
Then it's not a problem of trust -- you could have trashed it yourself.
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lock device driver for
> this card. How would I set about such a task? What information do I
> need? What can I read online? What existing source code could I use as
> a model? Is C enough or will I have to relearn my assembler skills?
>
> Thanks for the input,
> David
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> >Is it possible to change the login screen so that it does not say
> >
> > login:
> >
> >but says
> > Username:
>
> Yes indeed.
>
> Two different programs deal with this display, getty and login. IIRC
> correctly, the former can be configured and the la
>by part updates on people's machines. If everyone who is subscribed to
>this list sent in their machine configurations (and changes as they
>happen) the traffic on this list would be unbelievable.
By the way, Mike, how many people *are* subscribed to redhat-list?
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> Is there anyway to give a user the same capabilities as root without
giving the root password?
The sudo package is what you want:
http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/
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>> I want to change the login screen from:
>>
>> Red Hat Linux release 5.0 (Hurricane)
>> Kernel 2.0.32 on an i586
>> login:
>>
>> to something with colors like ANSI graphics is that possible and what
>> program should I use to make the file?
If you know the ANSI escape sequences, you could pla
>What diference exists between killing a process by: kill -9 pid and
>killall "name of process", because the second one you dond need to know
>the pid so save and instruction.
The process name killall relies on can changed by the process itself.
This is probably a non-issue, but there you are. k
>I suppose the removel of the issue.net lines in that file may allow
>you ues
>/etc/issue and /etc/issue.net ?
Confirmed.
Actually, I don't understand why RH clobbers the file only to write the
same info. What is more interesting is to put the date. I write the date
the system was booted up inst
>I don't this this will work tho I suppose you could export the file
>systems and mount them as NFS drives. Why you would want to do this is
>beyond me... Perhaps they could be mounted as localhost:/
>those this would probably be kind of slow.
I don't think so. (the idea, not the speed)...
>Wh
>Hello list,
>I built a kernel & modules normally(using RedHat 5.0), but depmod
-ae now >produces the following error:
>/lib/modules/2.0.31/misc/iBCS: unresolved symbol(s)
>kill_fasync_R1ace6ddf
Did you run make modules_install?
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>> I know I really should learn vi or emacs, so I won't look foolish if
I ever
>> encounter a machine without pico on it, but I don't do much editing
under
>> linux, since for the most part, Win95 is my actual production
environment
>> at work Linux is more like a hobby at the moment, unless I can
mount /mnt/sdb2/home /home
mount /mnt/sdb2/www /www
As neither of these args is a device, mount is not going to be too
happy. If someone has done something like this, can they show me their
/etc/fstab?
Thanks,
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> we've been having trouble with the who command. if the utmp
file is too >large
>(greater than 129 records), then who faults with "memory exhasted"
error and no
>other
>output.
This is a recurring error that keeps cropping up on the list. I think
you are the first person to have isolated
>I am running sendmail 8.8.8 on my linux box and
>it just will not accept email from a Microsoft Exchange Server.
I am running 8.8.5 or so, and have no troubles sending email to it with
with Exchange from work. What error messages are you getting?
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Excellent signal/noise ratio.
echo 'subscribe modperl' | mail -s 'subscribe'
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>>> I want to make use of the Cent symbol, which I think is character
0242.
>
>David> It's actually ASCII 162
>
>You're both right.
Duh! Octal is going to be the death of me!
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>Does anyone know how to insert specific special characters in the vim
editor?
>I want to make use of the Cent symbol, which I think is character 0242.
I
>have seen it in mail to me, xterm and vim can display it, but I
couldn't find
>any key on my keyboard which would generate it.
It's actually A
>Check the source of those pages, since they may be setting the font.
>That's because there are some very stupid people who think that just
>because a font is available and looks good on their machine, it will
>be available and look good on all others. These people should be
>using PDF.
I suspec
>I hear they're starting [EMAIL PROTECTED] if your
>interested.
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>> > Linux IS growing no matter what ANYONE tells me...
>> >
>>
>> Well, not the way I read the article it isn't. Maybe it could, might
>> or something but growing ? I don't think so.
>>
>
>Well, don't you think a year or two ago no large consumer group would
have
>even bothered asking the big
>I downloaded RH5 using a 14.4 - can anyone beat that?
I downloaded it on punched cards!
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> >Yes.
> >
> >Firstly, I tried 'sh Configure' then 'sh Configure -des' then 'sh
> >Configure -Dcc=gcc' and finally 'sh Configure -Dcc=gcc -des'.
> >each time doing a 'rm -f config.sh'.
>
> Hmm, what is -des supposed to do?
>
> >the math.h file looks fine but could you tell me the best way to
>Hi,
>I recently installed Red Hat 4.2 in my new notebook, Compaq Armada
4131T
>I tried to check for the memory with the "mem" command but when I do
>a "mem" all what I get is:
>
>bash: mem : command not found.
>
>
>Any idea what is going out there?
>
>I got the same result if I am a normal users
>I have just got Sams unleashing redhat and loaded linux from the
inclosed CD.
Excellent!
>I have downloaded perl5_004_04 and am having trouble with MAKE. It
returns
>errors like:
>
>In file included from perl.h:1214
> from miniperlmain.c:14:
/usr/include/math.h:273:
>par
>Does anyone have one of those quick little scripts that scans the users
>dirs every night to check for public_html?
Oh, let's see now...
#!/bin/sh
find /home -type d -name public_html -print | mail -s 'list of
public_html directories' root@localhost
This will check that the directory exists...
>I am accustomed to 'tip' on BSD and Solaris for talking to terminals
and
>modems. I have many TCL/expect scripts that use 'tip', so minicom
>presents a problem for me. Is there a 'tip' like RPM for linux? Or a
>binary? All I need is something simple. With tip you get 'connected'
>when yo
>Does anyone know if redhat-list has a message digest feature and if so,
how
>do I turn it on? (I already tried asking the listserver for "help")
You have to subscribe to the digest list. See the info on RH's web page.
Look for support; mailing lists.
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[...]
> > PID TTY MAJFLT MINFLT TRS DRS SIZE SWAP RSS SHRD LIB DT
> COMMAND
> > 408 ? 12119 1585263 720 20492 36784 15572 21212 816 0
> 4921 X :0 -bpp
[...]
Look on the bright side! 5 megs of the process is swapped out... all you
have to worry about is running out of swap..
>Hello,
>
>Does anyone happen to know how to send attachments using sendmail at
the
>command line?
I believe you have to assemble the bits together yourself using, say,
the MIME spec, and then dump the business into sendmail as one file.
DL
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[...]
>for i in access*
>do
> cat i$ >> filename
>done
>
>but this doesn't concatenate them quite the right way. I was looking to
>append them together in order, so they would be seamless - in other
words
>February 15th would be the ending in one file, and Feb 16th would be
the
>start in the
>On a SCO system though you MUST have at least RAMSIZE+10% as when it
>crashes, it writes the contents of ram to the swap partition. If there
>isn't enough room, it will simply overwrite your root partition with
the
>excess.
Gee, that's very thoughtful of it! I wonder how long it took the
program
>Does anyone know if redhat-list has a message digest feature and if so,
>how
>do I turn it on? (I already tried asking the listserver for "help")
You have to unsubscribe from here and resubscribe to the redhat-digest
list, or something like that. The details are described on Red Hat's web
page.
>Sorry to take this stuff here, but I'm trying to compile some stuff for
a
>class on my 5.0 machine and it keeps complaining about undefined
>references. No normal error this or that. It throws up a list of files
>with a .o extension all located in /tmp and then declares "undefined
>refernce to: c
>The RedHat lists generally seem to work in a way that bounce messages
>from subscribers tend to occasionally get sent to the people that send
>messages to the list, as opposed to the list address itself. It just
>means your message to the mailing list didn't get to that person.
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