How about sending an email to the OP with a message like:
"Hi,
Thanks for submitting a question to the R-help list.
We hope you did read the Posting Guide and submitted a reproducible example
of your code (by the use of dput, structure, ...)."
Then there is no need to add the message to the end
Peter,
You may have misunderstood me (I did not define correctly whose "internet
manners" I was referring to) â I was referring to the "internet manners" of
those seeking help, that, yes, they may not have adequately researched
things before asking a question, or may not have supplied a reproduc
On Jul 30, 2012, at 13:05 , Thomas Adams wrote:
>
> Nothing is gained by punishing people over their internet 'manners'∑
>
> Tom
On the contrary, everything can be lost by allowing abusers to persevere!
(And yes, there are people who no longer attempt to help, because of ungrateful
and downr
would be well worth it.
> >
> > John Kane
> > Kingston ON Canada
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-
> >> From: gunter.ber...@gene.com
> >> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700
> >> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
> >> Subjec
> -Original Message-
> From: b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk
> Sent: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:01:14 +0100
> To: had...@rice.edu
> Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Hadley Wickham wrote:
>
>> I'd argue that bot
Yes I agree.
Regards,
Yihui
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Barry Rowlingson
wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Hadley Wickham wrote:
>
>> I'd argue tha
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Hadley Wickham wrote:
> I'd argue that both assumptions are false. People are particular well
> trained to skip over boilerplate text at the bottom of emails.
One day the list owner will subtly change the boilerplate text at the
bottom of R-help emails and nobod
>> someone can, at least, try to answer the question would be well worth it.
>>
>> John Kane
>> Kingston ON Canada
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: gunter.ber...@gene.com
>>> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700
>>&
ton ON Canada
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: gunter.ber...@gene.com
>>> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700
>>> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
>>> Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code
>>>
>>> I agree and would lik
hat someone can,
at least, try to answer the question would be well worth it.
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada
-Original Message-
From: gunter.ber...@gene.com
Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700
To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code
I agree and would like to see it plac
-Original Message-
>> From: gunter.ber...@gene.com
>> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700
>> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
>> Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code
>>
>> I agree and would like to see it placed at the **TOP** of every post.
>>
&g
Message-
> From: gunter.ber...@gene.com
> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700
> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
> Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code
>
> I agree and would like to see it placed at the **TOP** of every post.
>
> -- Bert
>
> On Fri, Jul
I agree and would like to see it placed at the **TOP** of every post.
-- Bert
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 7:11 AM, John Kane wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: j...@bitwrit.com.au
>> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:21:36 +1000
>> To: dcarl...@tamu.edu
>&
> -Original Message-
> From: j...@bitwrit.com.au
> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:21:36 +1000
> To: dcarl...@tamu.edu
> Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code
>
> On 07/26/2012 01:50 AM, David L Carlson wrote:
>> We often refer requesters to the Posting Guide and ch
On 07/26/2012 01:50 AM, David L Carlson wrote:
We often refer requesters to the Posting Guide and chide them for not
reading it.
...
I hesitate to sound too optimistic, but there might be some advantage in
making the statement more prominent and adding a reproducible example using
dput().
The re
On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, David L Carlson wrote:
We often refer requesters to the Posting Guide and chide them for not
reading it. Recently I had occasion to re-read the Posting Guide
which is
for all R lists not just R-help. The word "reproducible" does not
appear
anywhere in the guide.
Hello,
This does not mean that the posting guide is useless. Nor that it
couldn't or shouldn't be changed.
I would say "shouldn't" because there's a clear call to reproducible
code in another part of R, the man files created by package.skeleton:
\examples{
## Should be DIRECTLY executab
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Bert Gunter wrote:
>
> PLEASE provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
> Whenever possible, provide a small example that can be easily loaded
> and run to illustrate your problem. The R function dput() should
> generally
PLEASE provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Whenever possible, provide a small example that can be easily loaded
and run to illustrate your problem. The R function dput() should
generally be used to do this.
For a more complete discussion of how to p
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:50 AM, David L Carlson wrote:
> We often refer requesters to the Posting Guide and chide them for not
> reading it. Recently I had occasion to re-read the Posting Guide which is
> for all R lists not just R-help. The word "reproducible" does not appear
> anywhere in the
We often refer requesters to the Posting Guide and chide them for not
reading it. Recently I had occasion to re-read the Posting Guide which is
for all R lists not just R-help. The word "reproducible" does not appear
anywhere in the guide. The closest it comes is the following suggestion:
"Sometim
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