I'd vote for that! It would probably bug the blazes out of experienced users but the time savings in getting a newbie to actually supply enough information so that someone can, at least, try to answer the question would be well worth it.
John Kane Kingston ON Canada > -----Original Message----- > From: gunter.ber...@gene.com > Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:49:28 -0700 > To: jrkrid...@inbox.com > Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code > > I agree and would like to see it placed at the **TOP** of every post. > > -- Bert > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 7:11 AM, John Kane <jrkrid...@inbox.com> wrote: >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: j...@bitwrit.com.au >>> Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:21:36 +1000 >>> To: dcarl...@tamu.edu >>> Subject: Re: [R] On Reproducible Code >>> >>> On 07/26/2012 01:50 AM, David L Carlson wrote: >>>> We often refer requesters to the Posting Guide and chide them for not >>>> reading it. >>> >... >>>> I hesitate to sound too optimistic, but there might be some advantage >>>> in >>>> making the statement more prominent and adding a reproducible example >>>> using >>>> dput(). >>>> >>> The reponses to some requests for help do seem to get a volley of the >>> "reproducible code" answers. Some, such as: >>> >>> I can't get the answer. PLEASE HELP!!! >>> >>> probably deserve it, but others appear to emerge from the overheated >>> brain of the frustrated noob. With a wonderfully informative name like >>> "dput", it is rather challenging to guess that this function is the way >>> to calm the affronted guru with an example of your problem. I am >>> particularly amused by the phrase "reproducible code", which sounds >>> perilously close to the definition of a virus. Perhaps the neglected >>> little message at the bottom of each email (which seems to reproduce >>> itself) might be easier for the uninitiated to understand if it read: >>> >>> Please include the R code that is causing the problem _and_ enough data >>> (see the "dput" function) for someone else to run the code and get the >>> same problem. >>> >>> I can remember when I didn't know that there was a "dput" function. >>> >>> Jim >> I can remember spending a lot of time constructing a data set to post >> before someone mentioned ?dput. Ah, yes, I still have a couple of >> generic ones archived. >> >> I think your wording above makes a lot of sense. >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM & EMAIL - Learn more at >> http://www.inbox.com/smileys >> Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ >> and most webmails >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > -- > > Bert Gunter > Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics > > Internal Contact Info: > Phone: 467-7374 > Website: > http://pharmadevelopment.roche.com/index/pdb/pdb-functional-groups/pdb-biostatistics/pdb-ncb-home.htm ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
