On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer
wrote:
>
> I'm all for putting OSDs on a screen edge rather than the center in
> general,
> but the Plasma team has decided to put them in the center, and iirc you
> guys
> had a plausible reason for that (though I don't remember the exact reason
On Thursday 14 August 2014 13:11:47 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > > on the other hand it also shows why I think that showing notifications
> > > relevant during a fullscreen window is active, must be in the
> > > responsibility of the application. Only the video player can know where
> > > the black ba
On Thursday 14 August 2014 12:01:41 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Thursday 14 August 2014 11:49:21 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 August 2014 11:40:43 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 15:58:13 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> >
Am 14.08.2014 12:45 schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer :
>
> Would it be realistic to try to push such a specification? I mean, it _would_
> make sense for all desktops...
+1
Similar to org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver inhibit the fdo notifications should get
a similar interface.
We already have urgency leve
On Thursday 14 August 2014 12:00:30 David Edmundson wrote:
> > Notifications must not overlay full-screen applications (I'm sure we all
> > have experienced the embarrassment when someone does a presentation on a
> > Windows machine and suddenly a "Hi cutie, how are you?" pops up in the
> > lower r
> If an application wants to hide notifications they have a perfectly
> good API for doing it.
> http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/knotifications/html/classKNotificationRestrictions.html
EDIT: We have a perfectly good API with an absolutely horrendous
implementation that doesn'
On Thursday 14 August 2014 12:03:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> I'm all for putting OSDs on a screen edge rather than the center in general,
> but the Plasma team has decided to put them in the center, and iirc you
> guys had a plausible reason for that (though I don't remember the exact
> reason a
On Thursday 14 August 2014 11:55:02 Aleix Pol wrote:
> > I agree that showing the OSD in the center of the screen while watching a
> > video would be rather annoying. There's a reason why most TVs put their
> > OSDs
> > on the edge of the screen.
> > But as has been said, the Look & Feel of the PMC
On Thursday 14 August 2014 11:49:21 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Thursday 14 August 2014 11:40:43 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 15:58:13 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> > > > > Looking at my TVs, it always shows the "OSD" when volume chan
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Monday 11 August 2014 11:51:49 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>> > Should it be? I would also expect the OSD to always be on top of active
>> > fullscreen windows, whatever that window might be. We also have OSD for
>> > changing the keyboard la
On Monday 11 August 2014 11:51:49 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > Should it be? I would also expect the OSD to always be on top of active
> > fullscreen windows, whatever that window might be. We also have OSD for
> > changing the keyboard layout for example, not showing it in some
> > fullscreen
> > app
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer
wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014 15:58:13 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> > > > Looking at my TVs, it always shows the "OSD" when volume changes,
> that
> > > > would
> > > > be something I'd also expect a m
On Thursday 14 August 2014 11:40:43 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014 15:58:13 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> > > > Looking at my TVs, it always shows the "OSD" when volume changes, that
> > > > would
> > > > be something I'd also expect a med
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 15:58:13 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> > > Looking at my TVs, it always shows the "OSD" when volume changes, that
> > > would
> > > be something I'd also expect a media center to do.
> >
> > Maybe we want different OSD when fullscreen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> > > Looking at my TVs, it always shows the "OSD" when volume changes, that
> > > would
> > > be something I'd also expect a media center to do.
> >
> > Maybe we want different OSD when fullscreen.
On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Aleix Pol wrote:
> > Looking at my TVs, it always shows the "OSD" when volume changes, that
> > would
> > be something I'd also expect a media center to do.
>
> Maybe we want different OSD when fullscreen. I've never seen a TV with the
> volume information on the center.
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 15:38:33 Aleix Pol wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:11:08 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > > With Volume, I can maybe understand that you don't want to show i
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:11:08 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > >
> > > With Volume, I can maybe understand that you don't want to show it on
> top
> > > and the relevant application should
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:11:08 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >
> > With Volume, I can maybe understand that you don't want to show it on top
> > and the relevant application should be showing it. Maybe. With the others,
> > they definitely should be.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >
> > With Volume, I can maybe understand that you don't want to show it on top
> > and the relevant application should be showing it. Maybe. With the
> others,
> > they definitely should be.
On Tuesday 12 August 2014, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>
> With Volume, I can maybe understand that you don't want to show it on top
> and the relevant application should be showing it. Maybe. With the others,
> they definitely should be.
>
on use cases like a media center, i would see more being alway
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> eheh - then let's change the notifications to use window type notification
> as
> a first step. That's what it got introduced for.
>
> Whether OSD should be above active fullscreen windows or not is nothing I
> want
> us developers to decid
On Monday 11 August 2014 12:48:30 Martin Klapetek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > honestly: no. There's a reason for the way it is and I'm quite sure we
> > discussed it. If the arguments (e.g. private chat going over presentation)
> > do
> > not apply for OSD
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>
> honestly: no. There's a reason for the way it is and I'm quite sure we
> discussed it. If the arguments (e.g. private chat going over presentation)
> do
> not apply for OSD then we have to realize that a OSD needs a dedicated
> window
>
On Monday 11 August 2014 11:14:09 Martin Klapetek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 August 2014 23:23:13 Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I might have missed that in the discussion but is it deliberate that the
> >
> > OSD
> >
> >
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Sunday 10 August 2014 23:23:13 Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I might have missed that in the discussion but is it deliberate that the
> OSD
> > doesn't raise itself above fullscreen windows?
> >
> > I found it uncomfortabl
On Sunday 10 August 2014 23:23:13 Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I might have missed that in the discussion but is it deliberate that the OSD
> doesn't raise itself above fullscreen windows?
>
> I found it uncomfortable to not have immediate feedback when changing volume
> using keyboard
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