Data source connection/disconnection and force update

2009-02-11 Thread Shawn Starr
I have some issues with Plasma Dataengine API with regard to force updating a source. The use case is this: I load an applet and set the default update interval to every 30 minutes. However, being impatient, I decide I want to get the refreshed information quicker, the applet has a 'Update Now

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-11 Thread Jud Craft
I apologize. Still getting used to mailing lists. On 2/11/09, Lubos Lunak wrote: > On Tuesday 10 of February 2009, Jud Craft wrote: >> It doesn't help that the transitioning-between-Activities bears little >> distinction from transitioning between workspaces/virtual desktops. >> It's sometimes

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-11 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Tuesday 10 of February 2009, Jud Craft wrote: > It doesn't help that the transitioning-between-Activities bears little > distinction from transitioning between workspaces/virtual desktops. > It's sometimes hard for the user to figure out exactly what the big > deal is. Personally, I rationaliz

Re: playground/base/plasma

2009-02-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Kevin Ottens wrote: > On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:24:02 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > or clients could listen for a dbus signal and re-register whenever it is > > emitted? so when the kded plugin first loads it could emit that signal? > > D-Bus already provide this k

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-11 Thread Lubos Lunak
Looks like we KDE people are not used to cross-posting. It would probably make sense to keep discussions on only one list (the one from which something is wanted). On Monday 09 of February 2009, Richard Moore wrote: > Plasma and KWin Integration > === > > This is the re

Re: playground/base/plasma

2009-02-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Kevin Ottens wrote: > You just have to make sure your service register with a fixed name and > you'll get that for free, no need to craft our own signal. ah, of course. yes, this is exactly what we need. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8

Re: playground/base/plasma

2009-02-11 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:24:02 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > or clients could listen for a dbus signal and re-register whenever it is > emitted? so when the kded plugin first loads it could emit that signal? D-Bus already provide this kind of service, it's exposed through QDBusConnectionInterfa

Re: [PATCH] fade out panel in desktopgrid

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Wednesday 11 February 2009 schrieb Lubos Lunak: > Difficulty, not impossibility. this may sound very silly, but if the problem is that - we don't want one panel setup / deskwidget per _NET_WM_DESKTOP (e.g. to save memory or whatever) - panels and desktops appear different depending on _NET_WM

Re: playground/base/plasma

2009-02-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Marco Martin wrote: > -a signal that notifies that a service was removed (not strictly useful, > just for coherence) pretty useful for instances where an app crashes though, yes? > the only problem i see is if kded crashes/ the daemon is stopped/reloaded > already l

Re: playground/base/plasma

2009-02-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 09 February 2009, Marco Martin wrote: > SVN commit 923960 by mart: > > stub for the systemtray watcher daemon: > only a stub, just loads, anybody who feels hacking in in is way more than > welcome > CCMAIL:plasma-devel@kde.org for who wasn't at tokamak and have no clue what the heck i'm t

Re: Review Request: Libkonq support for the nepomuk search runner

2009-02-11 Thread Ryan P. Bitanga
Before we veer further off topic, are we moving KonqMenuActions and KonqPopupMenuInfo outside of libkonq and into kdelibs for 4.3? At the very least, we'll need that to keep nepomuksearchrunner and the locations runner within kdebase/workspace. Cheers, Ryan 2009/1/20 Aaron J. Seigo : > On Monday

Re: [PATCH] fade out panel in desktopgrid

2009-02-11 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Tuesday 10 of February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > I've switched sides. It has just occurred to me that I faced this > exact same problem when I was designing my own workspace > software/window manager and I had ultimately decided on hiding the > panel as well. This is for the reason that was me

Re: Review Request: Libkonq support for the nepomuk search runner

2009-02-11 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 20:02:09 David Faure wrote: > On Saturday 31 January 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > During the boattrip at last year's Akademy, I discussed with David having > > Konqi's history available more widely, especially the browserhistory > > runner (which atm only uses the i

Re: KWin Dashboard effect

2009-02-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > If we work on that we should ensure that it is at least possible for other > WMs like Compiz to provide the same functionality. It would be sad if > people lose great parts of user experience because they need > $fancy_compiz_effect_not_availab

Re: KWin Dashboard effect

2009-02-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 04:09:28 Lucas Murray wrote: > If the widgets are separated from the wallpaper and placed in a window > with a transparent background it would be possible for KWin to raise > them and add the dashboard background behind it fluidly. That's what I want to do with the da

Re: playground/base/plasma/dataengines/akonadi

2009-02-11 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 07:55:57 David Baron wrote: > > The loading of data in the dataengine is async. Don't block on it but > > react to signals announcing new datasources instead. Look at lionmail.cpp > > for an example. > > What if the initial get sources always returned something, in this

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Lucas Murray > > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Richard Moore wrote: > >> 10. Alt-Tab to desktop and panel > >> > >> The desktop and panel need to be able to get the keyboard focus to allow > >> use

Re: KWin highlight window effect trigger code

2009-02-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 09 February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > Attached is the required code to trigger KWin's new highlight window > effect. This effect highlights the requested window by fading out all > others allowing the user to see the window even if it's covered. > > This patch is purely proof-of-concept

Re: KWin Dashboard effect

2009-02-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > If the widgets are separated from the wallpaper and placed in a window > with a transparent background it would be possible for KWin to raise i actually played with this on the flight to tokamak last week. i think it's possible. it will need a fa

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > - Activities are assigned to desktops. i'm in a 2-day meeting right now and really don't have the time/energy to address this right now. i'll do so once i'm back home. suffice it to say, however, that this thread simply shows a complete lack of

Re: KWin Dashboard effect

2009-02-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 23:13:49 Alexis Ménard wrote: > Qt Animation can animate our Dashboard without pain... You can animate the Dashboard, but not the appearance of the whole workspace. You can't make other windows transparent, fade them away, change brightness and saturation, etc. etc. Us