[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:48:00 +0400, Roman wrote: > (You don't maintain that the early messages are _stored_ as UTF-8, > right?) I haven't said anything about how your messages were stored on some server. But now you mention it, the early messages might well have been transliterated from Latin1 t

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Travis
- Original Message - From: "walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows) > On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:29:16 +0400, Roman wrote: > >>> But this one must have been transliterated, at some

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread walt
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:29:16 +0400, Roman wrote: >> But this one must have been transliterated, at some point. Because it's >> UTF8 to me. > > Gee, that's because I explicitly set it, as well as every next post, to > be in UTF-8. Nobody is secretly transliterating anything. > > Can we wrap this

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
Sure, so long as I get the last word. No you don't. 8=] If you mean that the message is stored in UTF-8 in your memory, then sure, I don't contend that. Perhaps I misunderstood you when you said about transliterating. What matters to me is how the message is encoded on the server, which was

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:29:16 +0400, Roman wrote: >> But this one must have been transliterated, at some point. Because it's >> UTF8 to me. > > Gee, that's because I explicitly set it, as well as every next post, to > be in UTF-8. Nobody is secretly transliterating anything. > > Can we wrap this

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
But this one must have been transliterated, at some point. Because it's UTF8 to me. Gee, that's because I explicitly set it, as well as every next post, to be in UTF-8. Nobody is secretly transliterating anything. Can we wrap this up already? __

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:47:46 +0400, Roman wrote: > Check > out the one with the alphabet, as well as the OP. I definitely don't see > "UTF-8" in any of those. Right. The original posting with the alphabet has: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original But t

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
I looked at the headers of your message as Pan presents it to me, and I see the following: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original The message you replied to is UTF-8 (and this one is, as well). Check out the one with the alphabet, as well as the OP. I de

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:53:08 +0400, Roman wrote: >>> АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ >> >> It looks fine. Apparently it somehow got transliterated to UTF8 >> Cyrillic. > > Why no, it's just marked properly, whereas previous posts weren't: It must be UTF8 by the time I see it on my screen and

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ It looks fine. Apparently it somehow got transliterated to UTF8 Cyrillic. Why no, it's just marked properly, whereas previous posts weren't: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original I'll stick to UTF-8, though. __

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:37:07 +0400, Roman wrote: >> I don't know how this will look on your screen, but the word looks to >> me like a mess of vowels with diacritics. Did George do some hand- >> transcription, or did his system do some translation that my system >> failed to? I'm just curious wh

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
I don't know how this will look on your screen, but the word looks to me like a mess of vowels with diacritics. Did George do some hand- transcription, or did his system do some translation that my system failed to? I'm just curious what is going on. I b0rked it, sorry. Outlook Express has we

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latinusernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:39:01 -0700, walt wrote: > Duncan wrote: >> "Roman"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Sep >> 2008 19:56:25 +0400: >> Did you post this in UTF-8 or KO18-R? Using UTF-8, it doesn't decode probably. >>> Foiled again! But le

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Greg Lee
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:36:33 -0500, George Sherwood wrote: > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:21:52 +0400 > "Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Correct. The Cyrillic spelling for "Administrator", according to the >> > few bits of Russian I had in school. >> >> Correct. I'll post in UTF-8 this time, t

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
But now I have another question. Why are you running pan as administrator on MS? Well... let's just say for historical reasons. I didn't create a limited account early, and now it'complicated because I'll have to set/import configuration for most applications again. But it's on my to-do list,

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latinusernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread walt
Duncan wrote: "Roman"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:56:25 +0400: Did you post this in UTF-8 or KO18-R? Using UTF-8, it doesn't decode probably. Foiled again! But let me try another time... Администратор! Ahh, now THAT time I see it p

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latinusernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Duncan
"Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:56:25 +0400: >> Did you post this in UTF-8 or KO18-R? Using UTF-8, it doesn't decode >> probably. > > Foiled again! But let me try another time... > > Администратор! Ahh, now THAT time I see it prope

[Pan-users] Re: How do I email myself a whole thread??

2008-09-04 Thread Duncan
"Holger Hoffstaette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:58:31 +0200: > Then all you need to do do is mark all messages and select "copy to > folder -> pan.sent"; at the next schedule they land in your inbox, just > like email. The downside is tha

[Pan-users] Re: How do I email myself a whole thread??

2008-09-04 Thread Holger Hoffstaette
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:34:34 +, Beartooth wrote: > One of the other lists I follow on gmane has a whole great long > thread that I want to put in a safe place against the day I find time to > read it. My email inbox ought to be such a place; is there a way to email > the whole thread en

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latinusernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
Did you post this in UTF-8 or KO18-R? Using UTF-8, it doesn't decode probably. Foiled again! But let me try another time... Администратор! ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread George Sherwood
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:21:52 +0400 "Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Correct. The Cyrillic spelling for "Administrator", according to > > the few bits of Russian I had in school. > > Correct. I'll post in UTF-8 this time, to improve the chance of > recognition: Администратор. (the last letter

[Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames(Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Roman
> Correct. The Cyrillic spelling for "Administrator", according to the few > bits of Russian I had in school. Correct. I'll post in UTF-8 this time, to improve the chance of recognition: áÄÍÉÎÉÓÔÒÁÔÏÒ. (the last letter should look like Latin p, if it's not, it's another bug 8=]) And this has no

[Pan-users] How do I email myself a whole thread??

2008-09-04 Thread Beartooth
One of the other lists I follow on gmane has a whole great long thread that I want to put in a safe place against the day I find time to read it. My email inbox ought to be such a place; is there a way to email the whole thread en masse, and not have to go down all the posts one by one

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames (Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread Daniel Rahn
On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:03:52 CSV4ME2 wrote: > ru = russia > The name is probably in Cyrillic. > If I may offer a guess, Correct. The Cyrillic spelling for "Administrator", according to the few bits of Russian I had in school. -Daniel ___ Pa

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan fails to deal with non-Latin usernames (Windows)

2008-09-04 Thread CSV4ME2
ru = russia The name is probably in Cyrillic. If I may offer a guess, C On Thursday 04 September 2008, walt wrote: > On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:17:19 +0400, Roman wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I've just decided to try Pan, but it looks like I won't be able to enjoy > > it. The symptoms are as follows