lude lists still recognise the home
root.
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:38:29 AM Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Konqueror and rekonq use the same engine. So what one renders, so does the
> other.
rekonq is switching to the Chrome Blink engine in KF5
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:04:00 PM Thomas Lübking wrote:
> > I tried plasmoidviewer and plasma-desktop with --nofork, but no
> > debug info for either.
>
> You get the "No stack" output from
>
>gdb --args plasma-desktop --nofork
>
> ???
> No idea what could cause that (except "nofork" being br
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:00:26 PM Thomas Lübking wrote:
> On Montag, 23. Juni 2014 14:46:45 CEST, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:35:31 PM Thomas Lübking wrote:
> >>> Unfortunately, still no debug info
> >>
> >> You mean "no Dr. Konqui&
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:35:31 PM Thomas Lübking wrote:
> > Unfortunately, still no debug info
>
> You mean "no Dr. Konqui"?
Nope, I mean gdb reports not debug info.
gdb plasmoidviewer
...
Reading symbols from plasmoidviewer...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) run digital-clock
Starting
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 01:54:02 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > Crashes in plasmoidviewer, but no debug symbols or stack trace.
> >
> >
> >
> > Would kde-runtime-dbg be the one to install?
>
> Yes, possibly kdelibs*dbg and kde-workspace*dbg as well, and perhaps Qt*dbg.
installed,
kde-runtime-dbg
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 01:08:46 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> did you try running plasma-desktop or plasmoidviewer through gdb to get a
> backtrace?
Crashes in plasmoidviewer, but no debug symbols or stack trace.
Would kde-runtime-dbg be the one to install?
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On 23 June 2014 07:00, Lindsay Mathieson
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> Any idea what could be causing this? Over the weekend a Kubuntu update (I
> think) started this happening on my desktop, adding any date/time related
> widget causes plasma-desktop to die.
>
> Have run
Any idea what could be causing this? Over the weekend a Kubuntu update (I
think) started this happening on my desktop, adding any date/time related
widget causes plasma-desktop to die.
Have run plasma-desktop --nofork, there is no output, it just stops. No
opportunity for a stack trace.
Kubuntu 1
Thanks
On 27 May 2014 07:55, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> http://community.kde.org/Baloo/Debugging
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Lindsay Mathieson <
> lindsay.mathie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A user on the kubuntu forums had a problem baloo_file_extractor b
A user on the kubuntu forums had a problem baloo_file_extractor bring their
system to its knees.
How would they go about identifying what it was doing?
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On Wed, 21 May 2014 01:42:18 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> Nope. But I think the exif one should be able to handle it. I'm not sure if
> there is anything apart from the width and height that needs to be
> extracted.
Ya, for some reason I thought gifs could have arbitrary tags, but that doesn't
seem
As per the subject
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On Mon, 19 May 2014 09:31:32 AM David Edmundson wrote:
> All extractors are here:
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/kfilemetadata/repository/revis
> ions/master/show/src/extractors
>
> They are plugins.
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As per the subject - should I be setting it to old or new?
CMake Warning (dev) in lib/CMakeLists.txt:
Policy CMP0022 is not set: INTERFACE_LINK_LIBRARIES defines the link
interface. Run "cmake --help-policy CMP0022" for policy details. Use the
cmake_policy command to set the policy and su
On Sun, 18 May 2014 03:21:02 AM Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> iirc that was intentional as Dolphin is a file manager - if you want to
> search through your E-Mail you rather want to use KRunner or KMail.
Makes sense to me,
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Dolphin used to return emails in its searches (and I presume all nepomuk item
types), but now it just returns file results.
- Is this deliberate?
- Will it always be so?
I have no particular axe to grind, for me file only makes more sense, but
someone was asking on the kubuntu forums.
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What content types does the baloo file indexer support? is it extendable via
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On Mon, 12 May 2014 04:19:28 PM Pramiti Goel wrote:
> 1)I have installed package acl still it is showing the following recommended
> package not found.
In the future, post the actual error message, but I assume you mean the acl
package itself.
You need to install the dev libs, e.g. libacl1-dev
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 02:01:21 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> Nope. We didn't in the Nepomuk days.
>
> Copy the file for now. I can possibly export for 4.14.
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 01:17:03 PM Ignacio Serantes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ok, compiled and gui seems to work.
Excellent
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:16:01 AM Ignacio Serantes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can't compile because file "baloodefaults.cpp" is not found.
Oops, sorry. Its there now.
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Baloo has a versioned list of file & mime type exclude defaults, but its not
exposed outside of the baloo src tree.
Is there a better way than copy & paste to use them? I believe nepomuk exposed
an api for the default values.
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Updated: Added editors for exclude file & mime types
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:44:30 AM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> I've created a page over here [1] documenting all the config values. This
> should cover all your use cases. Let me know if you want any more info.
Are exclusion filters for mime-types still supported?
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Fresh Update
* Basic Doc book. The text can largely be ignored, took me a while to
figure out how to link it to the help button:) Not sure who to attribute it to,
the docs seem to imply the text of the help rather than the subject
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 01:42:43 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> Well, I'd always said that any alternatives are more than welcome. In fact
> all of the code on github is mine, before I redesigned the UI.
Yah, like I said, I pulled the code from the old nepomuk kcm and modified it
slightly to fit.
Its ni
Update the repo
- Removed "Baloo" references in gui
- Relaid out Gui
- Implemented index status and control (suspend/resume)
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 07:54:43 AM Alexander Mezin wrote:
> I think
> KDE4_DBUS_INTERFACES_DIR is the right variable.
That did it, thanks.
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Is this the right cmake macro for adding dbus interfaces?
qt4_add_dbus_interface(kcm_file_SRCS
${DBUS_INTERFACES_INSTALL_DIR}/org.kde.baloo.file.indexer.xml
baloofileindexerinterface)
it works, but don't know if DBUS_INTERFACES_INSTALL_DIR is portable.
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> You seem to have committed you .kdev4 folder and kcm-adv.kdev4 files as
> well.
Oops, always doing that ...
>
> You probably want to modify your .gitignore
Yah.
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Luca Beltrame wrote:
> I would suggest you to remove references to "Baloo" as
>
> it is jargon and should not be exposed to end user.
Unless people have objections I'll do that and see how it looks.
Burkhard Lück wrote:
> Patch to fix broken i18n attached.
Thanks, applied.
> Display of li
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:44:30 AM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> I've created a page over here [1] documenting all the config values. This
> should cover all your use cases. Let me know if you want any more info.
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In baloofilerc, Group [Basic Settings], what is the difference between the
"Enabled" and "Indexing-Enabled" boolean settings?
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There is a alternate baloo KCM at:
https://gitorious.org/baloo-kcmadv
checkout with:
git clone git://gitorious.org/baloo-kcmadv/baloo-kcmadv.git
Implements:
- Enable/Disable Baloo Checkbox
- Choose Folders to index Dialog, effectively acts as a white/blacklist
- there's a Status & Suspe
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:04:29 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> If you want me to review the code or any pointers, let me know.
That would be appreciated, I will thanks.
>
> > Quick question for anyone who may know - the existing kcm appends a
> > separator ("/') to every directory path - is there any par
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:38:02 AM Kevin Krammer wrote:
> Hmm, what about an additional UI?
> As far as I know there is no enforces one-to-one mapping of KCM and
> service/config file, basically any KCM can change any config.
Correct.
I'm working on a alternate KCM now, using the existing KCM as a
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:42:17 AM Ben Cooksley wrote:
> Due to the current tone of this mailing list I have enabled emergency
> moderation for this mailing list.
My apologies for contributing to this, especially the "Arrogant" phrase, it is
unwarranted.
While I have said it before, I'd like to re
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 06:02:08 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> also again: straw man. I and no one else in this conversation has said that
> opinions may not be expressed, all anyone seems to have done here is
> patiently discuss things with you and ask you to show a modicum of respect
> to those that ac
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:57:51 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> They do. They can be turned off via the UI,
> >Nope.
> >ok, no longer worth having a discussion if you can't muster a better
response than this
I was referring to the UI as is. I'm glad that Vishesh is considering adding
an option for di
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:51:39 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> They do. They can be turned off via the UI,
Nope.
> they can uninsltalled.
Nope.
> A distro
> that does not include the package can be selected. The code can be compiled
> without it. The code is available as free software and can be mo
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:40:57 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> If the process has gone haywire to such a degree it needs to be deactivated
> it can be, via the UI as it exists now, with the explicit 'exclude' option
> that will trigger the same functionality that appears to be being re-added,
> via confi
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:25:55 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> Again, with the straw men. to quote Vishesh's blog "**We** would like to
> promote the use of" (my emphasis). No suggestion except by you that
> this is one person's thinking on the subject.
"I think the more important question for me is
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:18:27 PM Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > The new KCM has holes in it - I've logged a bug for cases where data can't
> > be indexed due to the blacklist approach. I've got a week off coming up -
> > I'll spend some time writing an alternate KCM myself and see how that
> > works out
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:25:55 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> why do you think a checkbox linked to the deactivation functionality would
> be different to it being triggered by removing $home?
Because the checkbox would be linked to the config option for actually
disabling baloo rather than just remo
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:34:28 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > 781 replies, all asking for the option to disable indexing to be restored,
>
> 78 replies, 26 of which are mine. And not all say the same thing.
Sorry 781 was a typo.
But of the replies not yours, most wanting the option.
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:12:20 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > This is a developer list where these things are meant to be discussed.
>
> Yes, keyword here being *discussing*.
>
> Saying "Vishesh is arrogant" is not discussing.
Actually the phrase "Arrogant" was being thrown at me and others fir
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 04:44:33 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> yes it can. remove $home and it is turned off.
And for a number of people it doesn't. And yes this is a bug, which no doubt
will be fixed. But this is also why you give people options and overrides -
bugs happen and its arrogant to assume
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 04:25:31 PM Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
> Vishesh described a perfectly legitimate approach and you're hounding him
> because your particular corner case was not considered as important as what
> is considered the common use cases. The feature is on by default, can be
> turned off th
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:14:36 PM Mario Fux wrote:
> I think this is the strong language that some people meant and that's not
> very productive. Nobody was "forced".
? so non developers have an option to use white listing instead of
blacklisting that I'm not aware of?
> It's still free software
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:18:56 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> The way we did stuff for the KCM was to design personas, establish
> use-cases, and then see what amount of configurability best satisfied the
> personas and use- cases we were trying.
The very opposite of consultation. You only created the
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:28:36 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > I am currently testing 3.14/trunk and was unplesently surprised there was
> > no way to disable indexing at all. I note, even windows lets you disable
> > its indexing/search services. Forcing it on for users in KDE is not the
> > KDE way.
>
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:50:08 PM Thom Castermans wrote:
> you should always ask
> for a feature *nicely*
Poeple aren't asking for features - they are asking for features to be removed
that were forced on them.
With regards to whitelisting they are asking for a useful feature to be
restored that
/folderselectionwidget.h 5e4e661
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Do you still want this Vishesh?
On 15 April 2014 07:10, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> Do you still want this Vishesh?
>
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:02:58 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
>> > On April 13, 2014, 4 a.m., Vishesh Handa wrote:
>> > > src/file/kcm/folde
~/'. Please remove it.
> >
> > The rest is fine.
> >
> > I can ask for an exception from the release team and ship this with 4.13
>
> Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> Trouble is, if you then add $HOME as an exclude path it just displays the
>
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Icon and no string at all. Would "HomeIcon/" be better?
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> ---
> This is an a
Unless I'm having a complete brain fart on the subject, this is a fix for a
small but legit problem isn't it?
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:18:56 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> but if you
> use KMail it(akonadi_baloo_indexer) will still index your emails into the
> Baloo database, and may be other baloo_stuff (not aware of others existing)
> running.
Contacts and calendar as well.
If the akonadi_baloo resour
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:17:29 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> Project neon is a kubuntu thing, i do not think this list is the correct
> place to report a bug about it.
Its pushed here on a regular basis as the easy way to work with kde master.
Its listed as such on dev.kde.org.
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Its been broken for at least a week now:
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/project-neon5-
kinfocenter_0.0+git20140407.21+neon3~fd347d3~14.04_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/opt/project-neon5/etc/xdg/menus/kde-information.menu',
which is also in package project-ne
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 02:10:43 PM Christoph Feck wrote:
>
> Please create a ticket at bugs.kde.org, so we can track progress.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333020
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Before I swapped my 1TB boot disk for a SSD I used to have large root
partition with a /data directory contain documents etc
I tested this by manually creating a /data2 directory owned by me with some
sample data.
It is not auto indexed by baloo and there is no way of specifying it via the
UI
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:52:58 AM Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote:
> In any case, I have two screenshots - [1] shows the config detecting one of
> my extra drives that it is not including by default. If I want it to be
> indexed, I remove it from the list which gives you [2]. Now, looking at
> this UI, the
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:01:45 PM Kevin Krammer wrote:
> he question is how you define an extension.
> Konqueror had extensions/plugins for many years, the difference to those of
> other browsers is that they are written in C++ instead of JavaScript.
As commonly used by the major browsers - script
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:39:47 AM Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > I'm not trying to bash anyone, I'm just really wondering about that. Is
> > rekonq good enough for most KDE users (I find that hard to believe)?
>
> Why do you think it's hard to believe?
>
> I use rekonq for almost everything and for my
On 31 March 2014 08:11, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 07:16:13 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
>>
>> Why are you so intent on telling us what we should be indexing? what is
>> wrong with giving the user choice?
>
> Nepomuk was never just about &qu
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 04:35:56 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> Do the code, I'm sure we can review the changes and agree on them if they
> are good
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:26:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > I'm not the one making assertions about most users.
>
> I disagree. "Better to leave it bare and simple initially" seems like you
> are making assertions about most users.
No, it means not predetermining the outcome, but seeing what us
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > I don't like this automagic stuff.
>
> This is not a very good sentence to be honest. You shouldn't be using a
> computer at all if you don't like automagic stuff.
ha ha.
Automagic refers to software that tries to guess whats best
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > We don't need to filter out source code, it already does.
> > > We don't need to black list external devices, it already does.
> > > It just works out of the box.
> >
> >
> >
> > Except when it doesn't.
>
> Then it's a bug, report it
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:58 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > You've surveyed users on this? have some data?
>
> Have you?
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:14:52 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > And totally breaks on any machine with multiple user accounts, which is
> > actually quite common, both for business and home usage.
>
> Why would it break on multiple user accounts?
My searches shouldn't be returning results for other
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 03:44:34 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> It would be awesome if you could come up with some test cases where you're
> looking for a particular file, and the top result(s) is not the one you
> expected because of these "garbage" files.
Backups, Archives, Shared folder repositories
1. Is the baloo file index stored at: "~.kde/share/apps/baloo/file/" ?
2. Would deleting the above directory be sufficient to fore a reindex of my
content?
3. Is there a way to control the baloo process so I can stop/start it? there
does not appear to be a "nepomukctl" equivalent.
The reason
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 05:28:16 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > You're trying to engineer the baloo config to be automatic for everyone
> > and
> > it just can't be done.
> >
> >
> >
> > Better to leave it bare and simple initially, and see what happens in
> > userland. It might shake out quite different
Given we have baloo now, should I still be building nepomuk-core & nepomuk-
widgets?
I'm unclear as to whether baloo is a replacement for nepomuk or a new backend
for it.
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 03:09:10 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> In those cases they can report bugs and we can fix it. I would really like
> if you could bring many of these "edge cases". Lets try to find a
> solution?
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 03:21:26 PM Thomas Lübking wrote:
> To me it translates to the simple fact that "I doubt that other people know
> what i want/need to be indexed and i'd like to know and control what is
> indexed on MY box", so don't try to turn it into a techinal insult, that's
> ridiculous. Yo
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 03:00:36 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> What I was really trying to do was hide the concept of "indexing" from the
> user. They care about searching, not about "indexing".
You've surveyed users on this? have some data?
Users care about results and confidence in those results. Inf
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 02:18:24 PM Andrea Scarpino wrote:
> We had a bad experience with Nepomuk and now we want to control everything
> about this new desktop search settings, but we don't have to.
> We don't need to filter out source code, it already does.
> We don't need to black list external dev
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 02:04:11 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> If you remove the external media from the black-list, then it goes in the
> white list and is going to be indexed.
Ok, seems a bit complicated and black magic - I'd prefer to explicitly set
directories rather then hope the software guesses r
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 01:40:58 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> The external mount is not shown in the KCM? If it isn't then we need to fix
> that. Please run the following command -
>
> $ solid-hardware query 'Is StorageAccess'
>
> You will get a list of ids. You can get more info about each of them via
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 01:43:46 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> Feel free to take the old nepomuk KCM code and make it into a "Baloo Index
> Tweaking application". The backend code still supports all the features
> that you seem to want.
Fair enough. Would you know which repo/module it lives in?
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:43:06 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> Here is how it currently works -
>
> * By default your HOME directory is indexed, and all other external mounts
> are are excluded.
>
> * The UI will show the list of all excluded mounts and excluded folders
> that have been manually added.
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:23:50 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> That's exactly what is done right now. How about you have a look at the
> config file and the implementation?
~/.kde/share/config$/baloofilerc?
Are there docs on its options?
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:23:50 PM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> We do not index everything. That would be foolhardy. We just index your
> HOME by default.
There's no indication of this on the config UI at al.
So how do I index Paths that are out side my home dir, such as my "/data" dir?
>
> > Just spec
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:38:59 AM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> What would you recommend? Apart from both white list and black lists,
I quite liked the old directory tree with check boxes. Flexible, clear and
unambiguous.
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:38:59 AM Vishesh Handa wrote:
> What would you recommend? Apart from both white list and black lists, which
> I'm against.
Why are you against them? considering you are using a blacklist.
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