Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size

2008-12-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 19 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 14:03:04 schrieb Shaochun Wang: > > Your kernel must not be 64bits, I think. > > Why not is he not allowed to run a 64bit kernel? > > Bye... > > Dirk the option is not available with 64bits - maybe not needed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Grant wrote: > > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying > > everything from the old drive to the new drive with: > > > > cp -ax /olddrive/* /newdrive/ > > "cp" neither has a "-a" nor a "-x" option. Are you talking abut

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Grant wrote: > > > > Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dale wrote: > I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, > then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, > mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the > CD, then what? None of this mat

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > That was one of the coldest, most invisible, and hardest to > troubleshoot communication errors I've ever seen. I don't even know > where to begin. It's like being in a foreign country and being told, > years later, that wearing shoes there m

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
btw, it is not about capabilities - it is about willingness. Most people are not willing to deal with the crap that is html-emails. They are no good. They are huge, they are risky, they make everything harder. And no-html is the norm for almost every mailing list (except maybe outlook- express-f

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little > > different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a > > thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point is a little oblique > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > and which data is not copied? > > ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If > you use ACLs or extended attributes you h

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > User Relations bug 251931 > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251931 Access Denied You are not authorized to access bug #251931. Please press Back and try again.

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > >> User Relations bug 251931 > >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251931 &

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 22 Dezember 2008, b.n. wrote: > > The user is complaining of a *damn serious* problem. His emails were > ignored for an undocumented formatting community rule, and it made > impossible for him to use the mailing list, without anything alarming > him of the problem until late. no. His ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 22 Dezember 2008, b.n. wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: > > >> And what's even worse, instead of people concerning about that and how > >> to solve the situation in the future, there is a lot of people giggling > >> and behaving li

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 22 Dezember 2008, Arttu V. wrote: > > *If you're so sure it's the html in his emails, then why don't you > answer his questions about Gnome?* well, I saw his mails - and I did not react to them, because I don't use gnome since the 2.0 disaster. Since then I am a happy KDE-only user. N

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Stroller wrote: > > One reason your post generated so many responses is that *everyone* > has posted once in HTML and been asked not to. not me. And others did not too. Because 'no html' is a common thing for user related mailing lists.

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Arttu V. wrote: > > since the 2.0 disaster. Since then I am a happy KDE-only user. > > Not using gnome makes me skip gnome threads automatically - the few > > things I remember back from the 1.4 days won't help anyway. > > I run KDE as well (so maybe I'm biased to com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo File Manager

2008-12-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am trying out the Gentoo File Manager, but have run aground with the > > way it opens certain types of files. How can I create an association to > > e.g. use xpdf to open pdf files and OOo (oowriter) to open .odt and .do

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: > >> >> I've looked over this: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml > >> >> > >> >> but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above. > >> > > >> > ... why? Do you have a specific question? Did you even bother to try >

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: > >> >> >> I've looked over this: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml > >> >> >> > >> >> >> but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above. > >> >> > > >> >> > ... why? Do you have a specific question? Did you

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > Not impressed. Hopefully this critical message would be summarized at the > end of the build too. Kind of important. I got lucky and happened to see > it... it was. Also: elog and elogv the tools are there. It is your fault of not using

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: > > it was. Also: > > elog > > and > > elogv > > > > the tools are there. It is your fault of not using them. > > Great, please demonstrate how I was to

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: > > after the emerge you read the messages with elogv and downgrade. No harm > > done. > > I'll be sure to try that, thank you. However, would not avoiding a bad > up

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia warning comes a tad late

2009-01-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, »Q« wrote: > In <200901010423.25783.volker.armin.hemm...@tu-clausthal.de>, > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > That is why you have to go to nvnews first and then upgrade. > > Where is nvnews? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2009-01-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:27:48 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Don't you think the default action here should be to do nothing > > > > instead of > > > > breaking my system? > > > > > >"That proposal is ludicrous and completely counter to th

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2009-01-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 01/01/09 Alan McKinnon said: > > The software does not have the slightest vaguest foggiest concept of what > > the RIGHT and the WRONG drivers are. That's a human being's conclusion. > > Apparently it did, hence the warning. the ebuild w

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2009-01-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: > > but as long as X is not restarted, the upgrade doesn't break anything. > > You come back, you read the elogs, you downgrade the drivers and > > everything is fine a

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 08 Januar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:20:00 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do > > that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? > > revdep-rebuild fixes broken packages, @preserved-libs prevents the > breakage

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > Playing videos with mplayer produces an output of > > > Your system is too SLOW to play this! >**

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > are you using composite? if yes, don't. Or install the latest nvidia > > driver. > > In my initial posting I mentioned the driver, which is installed on my > PC > > > > x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-177.82 USE="acpi gtk -custom-cflags > > > (

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann [09-01-11 15:15]: > > On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > are you using composite? if yes, don't. Or install the latest nvidia > > > > driver. > > &

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann [09-01-11 15:35]: > > On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Volker Armin Hemmann [09-01-11 15:15]: > > > > On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann [09-01-11 15:55]: > > On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Volker Armin Hemmann [09-01-11 15:35]: > > > > On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > But may be my experience is to old in this special case. > > By the way: > xv is a lot of [CENSORED] with my NVIDIA card. I had a lot of trouble > to find a way to regulate brightness and such on a per application > basis. The only way I foun

Re: [gentoo-user] Loss of performance...OpenGL?

2009-01-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann [09-01-11 19:11]: > > On Sonntag 11 Januar 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > But may be my experience is to old in this special case. > > > > > > By the way: > > > xv

Re: [gentoo-user] Permissions of files in /sys/

2009-01-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Andrea Momesso wrote: > -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: http://getfiregpg.org > > owFFU81r1EAUT1stGhFa8CQUHj34gWmy2a3IRim2guxWWynspSedJG83Y+cjZCYb > c/MieFDwKD0oeLXgzaN4F09F8OpN8eR/4EtsLSQE5v3e74vJq/Nzzuzi9u+lcz++ > f1ye+fIrdoai

Re: [gentoo-user] Permissions of files in /sys/

2009-01-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:53:17 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > great, sending a mail to a public ml that nobody can read. ... > > That's not quite true, I could read it :P as I said... :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.28 BUGS

2009-01-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009, David Relson wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:01:28 +0100 > > Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > > 2009/1/14 David Relson : > > > I noticed the "taint" message and don't think that's right. How do > > > I identify the tainted module? > > > > Jan 13 21:35:04 osage Pid: 13119, comm

Re: [gentoo-user] Disable remote login for certain user

2009-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 17 Januar 2009, Grant wrote: > >> an ssh config setting, in shorewall, or somewhere else? > > > > You can: > > > > 1) use pam as described by Mike > > > > or > > > > 2) use sshd_config "AllowUsers" > > Thanks a lot, I went with 'AllowUsers root' in sshd_config since sshd > is the only se

Re: [gentoo-user] Disable remote login for certain user

2009-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 17 Januar 2009, Grant wrote: > >> >> an ssh config setting, in shorewall, or somewhere else? > >> > > >> > You can: > >> > > >> > 1) use pam as described by Mike > >> > > >> > or > >> > > >> > 2) use sshd_config "AllowUsers" > >> > >> Thanks a lot, I went with 'AllowUsers root' in sshd_c

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconciling users and services

2009-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 17 Januar 2009, Grant wrote: > I have some users on a system and some services. How can I make sure > only certain users can log into certain services? Do I need to > explicitly define which users can log into each service? Are there > different types of users so that some can only lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Tips/Tricks for Gentoo on low-spec computer?

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 20 Januar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: > I'm in the process of installing Gentoo on a rather old > machine. It's an old HP Pavilion with a 450MHz Celeron > Mendocino and 256MB of PC133 SDRAM. I'm using an nVidia PCI > FX6200 video board instead of the i810 on-board chip, and it's > got a

Re: [gentoo-user] Tips/Tricks for Gentoo on low-spec computer?

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 20 Januar 2009, Alejandro wrote: > 2009/1/20 Volker Armin Hemmann > > > On Dienstag 20 Januar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > I'm in the process of installing Gentoo on a rather old > > > machine. It's an old HP Pavilion with a 450MHz Celeron

Re: [gentoo-user] Tips/Tricks for Gentoo on low-spec computer?

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 20 Januar 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Dienstag 20 Januar 2009, Alejandro wrote: > >> 2009/1/20 Volker Armin Hemmann > >> > >> > On Dienstag 20 Januar 2009, Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] MTRR setting? Where could I have put it?

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Willie Wong wrote: > Hi list: > > I need some help with my memory. > > Recently when I quit the X server, the following can be seen in the > sys log: > > Jan 20 18:06:34 e-nibbles mtrr: no MTRR for e800,200 found > > and on the TTY where I issued X init,

Re: [gentoo-user] MTRR setting? Where could I have put it?

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Willie Wong wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:22:17AM +0100, Penguin Lover Volker Armin Hemmann squawked: > > On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Willie Wong wrote: > > > Hi list: > > > > > > I need some help with my memory. > > &

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > Hello list, > > well. I couldn't resist and I emerged kde4.2 with something like this: > > sudo emerge @kdebase > > Now I want to upgrade Qt to 4.5beta but (see below) > > Is there any obvious way to solve this that can't see because it's 2AM >

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > a) why do you want to install 4.5 beta? > don't try the beta, try qt-copy ;) > To see if it solves a nasty bug in systray when composite is enabl

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets

2009-01-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > don't try the beta, try qt-copy ;) > > Ohhh... Let's try that then :) if there are bugs with kde that are caused by qt, qt-copy should always b

Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.28-gentoo sources quite sluggish on Dell Inspiron 8100 / 1GHz PIII

2009-01-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 22 Januar 2009, Dan Farrell wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently updated my dell Inspirion 8100's software after I found to > my suprise I could no longer play video fast enough to watch. I did a > kernel upgrade from 2.6.24 to 2.6.28, with a number of > reconfigurations, including moving

Re: [gentoo-user] 64-bit Firefox + java?

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 22 Januar 2009, Grant wrote: > I recently switched from firefox-bin and nspluginwrapper to 64-bit > firefox and the latest flash, and I just realized java no longer > works. Do I need to go back to firefox-bin and nspluginwrapper for > java to work? > >>> > >>> Wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM, James Homuth wrote: > > I'm getting more than a little irritated with > > its attempts to interfere with my attempts to configuring any program > > with an optional PAM plugin. > > What's so bad/hard about pam that

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann : > > On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > >> What's so bad/hard about pam that everyone wants to remove it? > > > > what is so good/usefull about pam that one sh

Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Grant wrote: > Well, I deleted my kernel .config. Is there any way to magically > re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way? > > - Grant ls /boot ls /boot boot config-2.6.28r4.old grubmemtest86plus System.map-2.6.28r4 Syst

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > in the past pam breakage caused login trouble, > > In the past... Like when there's were not enough documentation or it > was too cryptic? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No /dev entries in recent stage3 snapshots?

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-01-21, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:50:17 +, Nick Cunningham wrote: > >>> But, that doesn't really solve the problem, since after a > >>> reboot the /dev directory will be empty again and you end up > >>> with problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No /dev entries in recent stage3 snapshots?

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-01-23, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> If the tarball doesn't contain /dev/console it is broken, but > >>> it is also broken if it contains thousands of device entries. > > > > I have a server

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 27 Januar 2009, Tom Brown wrote: > Hey guys, > > I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works > great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product > tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. > > I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2: Emerge of ksysguard and ksmserver failed

2009-01-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Januar 2009, Tomas Linhart wrote: > Hello all, > > I've decided to try out KDE 4.2. I unmasked all the packages that I > needed, but when I was emerging kde-base/ksysguard I got the following > error: > > Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libkdeinit4_ksysguard.so > [ 98%] Built ta

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2: Emerge of ksysguard and ksmserver failed

2009-01-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 29 Januar 2009, Tomas Linhart wrote: > Before I start again - what is "the right order" for emerging the qt > packages? I am not sure anymore - if you look into the ebuilds you should be able to see it.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2: Emerge of ksysguard and ksmserver failed

2009-01-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 29 Januar 2009, Tomas Linhart wrote: > Before I start again - what is "the right order" for emerging the qt > packages? I am not sure anymore - if you look into the ebuilds you should be able to see it.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 blocked packages

2009-01-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 30 Januar 2009, Hung Dang wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to emerge KDE 4.2 and receive the following message: > > . > [ebuild U ] kde-base/kmail-4.2.0-r1 [4.2.0] USE="kdeprefix kontact > semantic-desktop -debug -htmlhandbook" 0 kB > [ebuild NS ] kde-base/step-4.1.4 [4.2.0] USE

Re: [gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?

2009-01-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 31 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > Hello list, > > I emerged KDE-4.2 (RC first, final now) and Phonon wasn't getting any > backend. No video, no sound. I have 4.2+kdeprefix and systemsettings show me the xine settings. eix phonon [I] kde-base/phonon-kde Available versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?

2009-01-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 31 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > > Ok. Thanks. Maybe there's something broken deeper in my box. which phonon related packages do you have installed? > > >> I never needed more than one KDE version at the same time, but I like > >> to have it separate from the rest of the system

Re: [gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?

2009-01-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 31 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Samstag 31 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > >> Ok. Thanks. Maybe there's something broken deeper in my box. > > > > which phon

Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?

2009-01-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > Hi, > > I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage > has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When > did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386? yes. They merged the '386' and the amd64/x86_64 architecture

Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?

2009-01-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage > >> has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage

Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?

2009-01-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: > Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using > it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) who needs an initramfs?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: > >> Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using > >> it all the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Tom wrote: > >who needs an initramfs? > > Not me ;) > > But seeing this discussion, I've finally realised that I'm a dumbass. > For ages now I've been manually copying the kernel, the system.map and > the config around my filesystem. I've always wondered how on earth > p

Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?

2009-02-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Grant wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD > iso? According to this: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml > > "If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a system, you need to follow the procedure describ

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 02 Februar 2009, Miernik wrote: > After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides > the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs. > ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts). > > All my manpages look like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message > like > /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la > > The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path > /usr/lib/gcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: > Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system > similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source. > The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get > better performance because all executables are optimized f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh?

2009-02-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 04 Februar 2009, Momesso Andrea wrote: > On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 08:58:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:48:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > So all in all, I agree.  Using Gentoo is nowadays not so much a matter > > > of performance optimization but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 04 Februar 2009, James Ausmus wrote: > > Freecol is a great game that is in Portage and can provide for hours of > entertainment - it's a Java-based clone of Sid Meier's Colonization, one of > the best turn-based strategy games ever. Might be a little much for a > 7-year old, but might

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: hal - what's the benefit of using it

2009-02-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 05 February 2009 00:05:55 Paul Hartman wrote: > > Almost the same as mine, except I still have lots of font stuff in my > > xorg.conf -- do those go somewhere else? or are they unneeded in > > xorg.conf at all these days? > > Fonts a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Sebastián Magrí wrote: > > The installation experience with the traditional method must be > > mandatory... That's why I think we are better now that GLI is > > deprecated... > > That's not good. It hurts Gentoo's popularity if it's not eas

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Sebastián Magrí wrote: > >>> The installation experience with the traditional method must be > >>> man

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:. > > > >>> I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a > >>> differ

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:. > > > I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a > > different manner to the way the thing will be used. > > Because installation is boring. The easier it is, the better. wrong. The installation needs a certain d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Saphirus Sage wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:. > >>> > &

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-02-05, Dirk Uys wrote: > > The type of user I don't like is the ignorant type. Innocent > > users are ok, they don't know, but ignorant users choose not > > to know. > > Surely there are things you use without knowing how they work. > Y

Re: [gentoo-user] accessing a bash

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Jon Hardcastle wrote: > Hey guys.. random Linux question. > > If i have a bash process running on my machine that i am not 'attatched' to > is there anyway to access it and see what it is doing short of just killing > it? > open files: lsof everything else: strace

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Stroller wrote: > > [...] > > To be honest, I am surprised this notion of "optimised executables" has > > stuck around long enough that you've heard it, but it's an old joke to > > many of us who were around in 2004. > > But AFAIK, it *was*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 2/5/2009 7:01 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > no. He is an idiot if he does not read the docs. Simple. Like people who > > don't read the manual to their car or vcr and then complaining if > > something does n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs. > > I'd rather be installing and waiting for the installer to tell me what > to do rather than go read docs somewhere else :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs. > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > > > > and gentoo was never meant for the clueless. > > Ah, come on Volker, say what's true. My 81 year old dad uses Gentoo > and he cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:17:46 +0100 (CET), Jesús Guerrero wrote: > > Well, in that sense, ALL the man pages of for anything that's more > > complext than ls will be horrible. There's no way to can shorten > > it unless you take features off from bash

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for AMD790GX/SB750

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know how to configure the kernel for a machine with > AMD790GX/SB750 chipsets? > > Especially what to specify for > > SATA AHCI. Please set ahci mode in bios. > Audio repends on the chip used. Probably a hda realtek. In th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 06 February 2009 14:36:12 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > except that info is horrible. I hate info. If you don't know exactly what > > you are looking for, you are lost. And you can never sure in which part > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:58:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I prefer man. Even huge manpages. You can easily search them and if > > > you don't know what you are looking for you can glanze them over > > > quickly. > > > > The kde ioslave for info

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Christopher Walters wrote: > for 64-bit systems, Debian and its child Ubuntu, have packages compiled to > use the "generic x86_64" option, so they can be used on an AMD64 and an > IA64 system. In addition, all kernel options are either directly in the > kernel, or modul

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Christopher Walters wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Christopher Walters wrote: > >> for 64-bit systems, Debian and its child Ubuntu, have packages compiled > >> to use the "generic x86_64" option

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
and what do I, if I need to read info to be able to install emacs to read info?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > and what do I, if I need to read info to be able to install emacs to read > > info? > > You appear to be taking a potshot, not really adding to the > discussion. > > I know you are not

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel install question

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Roy Wright wrote: > Howdy, > > Setting up a new system and want to do the simple grub setup where I > have grub menu of: > > * Current Gentoo Kernel (/boot/vmlinuz) > * Previous Gentoo Kernel (/boot/vmlinuz.old) > * Gentoo 2.6.28-r1 (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-gentoo-r1) > > T

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 07 Februar 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > On Freitag 06 Februar 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > >> > and what do I, if I need to read info to be able to install emacs to > >> > read

Re: [gentoo-user] Time keeper app for KDE 4.2

2009-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 08 Februar 2009, Hung Dang wrote: > Hi all > I know that there is an option in GNOME which allows the computer > keyboard, mouse and screen to freeze for a certain time for example 3 > minutes for each hour. > I wonder if there is something similar in KDE? FREEZE? sounds stupid, but: kti

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-meta 4.2 upgrade

2009-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 11 Februar 2009, James wrote: > Hello, > > OK, I have read back into January the suggestions on this > list about going to Kde-meta 4.2. I have dozens of workstations > running gentoo, so now I'm going to upgrade one (test) laptop > to get a feel for kde-4.2 and hopefully flesh out an >

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