Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 07 Februar 2010, Alexander wrote: > On Sunday 07 February 2010 19:27:46 Mark Knecht wrote: > >Every time there is an apparent delay I just see the hard drive > > > > light turned on solid. That said as far as I know if I wait for things > > to complete the data is there but I haven'

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 07 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Alexander wrote: > > On Sunday 07 February 2010 19:27:46 Mark Knecht wrote: > >>Every time there is an apparent delay I just see the hard drive > >> light turned on solid. That said as far as I know if I wait for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When is a disk not a disk?

2010-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
and what happens if you don't use crap - aka sudo but do it the right way - aka su to root?

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 09 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: > On 9 Feb 2010, at 00:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:34:01 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: > >> Thanks for the info everyone, but do you understand the agony I am > >> now > >> suffering at the fact that all disk in my system (including a

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I an Erasee ?

2010-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 09 Februar 2010, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to unsubscribe from this list, but the > mlmmj said, that I cannot unsubscribe since I am > not subscribed. Which isn't quite right as you > can see here. > I fear if I would subscribe now a second time and > unsubscr

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 13:34 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:46:40 +, Stroller wrote: > > > > With the RAID, you could fail one disk, repartition, re-add it, > > > > rinse and > > > > repeat. But that doesn't take care of

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:31 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > so long as you didn't have any non-detectable disk errors before > > > removing the disk, o

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:31 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > so long as you didn't have any non-detectable disk errors before > > > removing the disk, o

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new > version? > This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they > go to different slots. > Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that. >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 10 Feb, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new > >> versio

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, J. Roeleveld wrote: > As for recovery, I always use "sysrescuecd" (http://www.sysresccd.org) and > this has Raid and LVM support in it. (Same with the Gentoo-livecds) sysrescuecd failed me hard two nights ago. 64bit kernel paniced with stack corruptions, 32bit kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday 10 February 2010 12:03:51 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > As for recovery, I always use "sysrescuecd" (http://www.sysresccd.org) > > > an

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: > Hello list, > when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs > kdelibs compiled with USE="semantic-desktop" and cannot be told to not > use it. But I do not like the idea of semantic desktop and I will not > install it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: because qt-VERSION is being phased out. You are supposed to use the split qt ebuilds. qt-VERSION is just a meta package. And luckily, all qt-BLABLA-4.5.3 ebuilds are marked stable. ALSO: from the qt-4.5.3 ebuild: KEYWORDS="~alpha amd64 arm hppa ~ia6

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > > Hi, > > > > has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new > > version? > > This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they > > go to

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +, Stroller wrote: > >> The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right > >> about NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to what I'm se

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I seem to have them both installed with only my old version of MYthTV > >> requiring qt-3.3.8 > > > > That's easy then, switch t

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: > >> Hello list, > >> when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > > >> Again, I cannot see the 0.22 gives me anything I care about but > >> there's no way to know until I commit to making the change. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: > On 11 Feb 2010, at 00:01, Jörg Schaible wrote: > >> ... > >> your understanding is wrong. Completely wrong. Seriously it hurts. > >> > >> start here: > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework) > >> > >> and then proceed with the li

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > >> OK, after reading several articles from the given starting point, I now > >> understand why semantic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:17:07AM +, Stroller wrote > > > I cannot for a moment believe that you (Roy) can organise your files > > so that you can find them easier than typing a search term & clicking > > on the correct result. You just don'

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Seriously guys, you start sounding like luddites. Is new, must be bad. > > Correction, is fat, bloated, and slow, must be bad. I wonder if > Microsoft's anti-linux strategy is to have its agents infiltrate the > linux developer community, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > > > > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > > > > IMO, manda

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: > >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:37:00 Mark Knecht wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alan McKinnon > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:09:28 Mark Knec

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > Particularly when your wm can handle all the inter-app > communication that is necessary without dbus. the problem is the WM can NOT handle all the inter-app communication that is needed by a modern desktop environment. Especially, when you ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get > > > the buildpkg feature to include the configs. It's easy at the

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:53:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> Particularly when your wm can handle all the inter-app > >> communicati

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:03:27 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:53:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > >> > >> w

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get > >> > the b

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote: > Am Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:18:42 + > > schrieb Neil Bothwick : > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:15 -0600, Roy Wright wrote: > > > IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find > > > another desktop manager (even after being my p

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 00:21 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > oh yeah, it is just a great thing that the mail app constantly tries to > > reach servers and then throws errors. Not like this needs zero cpu > > cycles a

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>>> On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wr

Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On Friday 12 February 2010 00:13:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>>> One thing I haven

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Graham Murray wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > Why does the app need to know? others already posted examples why this i

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Alan, > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > > > > > The first sign

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't > >> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > Just one more reason. > > Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? > > If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. > Some CPUs (

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick > >> > >> wrote: > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function >

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing > > that when DOS fell out of fashion. > > 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? > > 3. Or just use IPC and let dedicated print middleware deal with

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo! > > As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. > As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One > non-functioning binary is probably GCC. > > What I'd like to do is reinstall every

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > You obviously don't know what you are talking about. > > And you obviously do? > > > If you start konqueror - for example, it is dbus telling konqueror to > > start > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > besides being not really usefull anymore? Are you sure you have lpr? > > Which ones do you have? And do you have it configured for the right > > printers? What if you don't have lpr but cups? >

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > well, just look at all those ubuntu users. Just for starters. > > Hm. And those ubuntu users have a choice? For the record, most people > using wireless anywhere are using OS's from Redmond or Cupertin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, walt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for > > me with one certain Asrock board. > > This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make > the adjustment? Bios

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:37:53PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > > You have been corrected on this point so many times I now think you > > are just a stupid ass. > > > > It is not slow. > > > > You are the only one saying that. People who do use

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Robin Atwood wrote: > Has anyone got the much vaunted window-tabbing of KDE 4.4 working? I have > set my middle mouse button to "Start window tab drag" but when I try it > nothing happens. Searching, I found references to a window menu option > "Move window to group" but

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Robin Atwood wrote: > On Saturday 13 February 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Robin Atwood wrote: > > > Has anyone got the much vaunted window-tabbing of KDE 4.4 working? I > > > have set my middle mouse butto

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Dale, > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:27:55PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > >The shop who sold me the components suggested running memtest86 with > > >just one RAM stick at a time

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > Hi, Dale, > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:27:55PM -0600, Dale wrote: > >> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > >>> The shop who sold me the components

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:01:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > The OP then doesn't have to deal with 600+ conf-update complaints > > > > > > Run conf-update and press a then d :) > > > > But I'm a paranoid snarky old git and that doesn't work f

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 13 February 2010 14:07:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > I agree with the concept that people who don't want KDE dependancies, > > > > > > e.g. dbus, shouldn't use KDE apps. Therefore,

Re: [gentoo-user] how to add an ebuild

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Skippy wrote: > Greetings; > > I'm needing to add an ebuild, but there is something I'm not doing > right it seems. > > I have xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2.ebuild. The file that is. > > I place it in /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/ you should place it in /usr/local/po

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > However. ELF is analogous (with the exception that you don't > > have one or two binary apps), and nothing is stopping you from > > building everything statically, or still using .a > > Actually, if libraries hadn't been

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells > > a broweser or mail app that they are offline? > > use the filesystem ? > > guess what: I've got a filesystem (a t

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells > >>> a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > BRM wrote: > > It does not exist so that Kmail can index all the files on the > > system but for the opposite - so that Kmail can participate in > > the search by allowing the system to be able to search _its_ data. > > Just to let me get the poi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > KDE apps use PHONON, so they don't have to deal with the underlying sound > > system. > > KDE apps use SOLID, so they don't need to care about hardware, hot > > plugin, etc. &g

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > startup time is not dependet on the size, harddisks are way > > Assuming you're using an harddisk (or another fast-enough > medium) at all. > > > too fast - but symbol res

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > don't waste your time - dbis is already there... > > dbus lets me access my network interfaces via filesystem ? no, it is ported to different architectures.

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> don't waste your time - dbis is already there... > >> > >> dbu

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > no, but with static exes you have to recompile everything > > everytime a security bug is found. > > That's the job of the distro buildsystem. Ah, and that dramatically > minimizes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than > > just a toolkit? > > What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o are you insisting going down the stupid road?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Another service? > > Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand. > so I have to wait for the service to start first? Sounds even crappier. > > Great - but then shut up about dbu

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 15 Februar 2010, Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 2/15/2010 2:20 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > J. Roeleveld wrote: > >>> And *IF* some application is interested in the such information, > >>> why not just using the filesystem ? > >> > >> Because on flash-drives (Which are used in small devices

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD

2010-02-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 16 Februar 2010, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > I'm thinking of re-installing Gentoo on an Intel 40 Megs SSD -- excluding > the most often writen dirs like /var, /tmp, /home --. What do you think ? > I'll be glad to hear about previous experiences. What about swap ? Is it > safe to h

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD

2010-02-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 16 Februar 2010, Grant wrote: > >> I thought SSDs were projected to > >> last longer than HDs? Also, from what I've read, SLC should last much > >> longer than MLC. > > > > It's the other way round: HD's last longer dan SSD's. [1] > > > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 14 February 2010 12:40:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sunday 14 February 2010 13:02:48 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > I highly recommend drivers to gain the skill of driving a vehicle > > > > crash-style

Re: [gentoo-user] silly daylight saving [WAS: Running xsane]

2010-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:15:14 +0100, Enrico Weigelt > > wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> Outside USA we have no illusions of saving time by adjusting our clocks. > > > > When it comes to politicians, I'm not quite that sure. Over here > > i

Re: [gentoo-user] silly daylight saving [WAS: Running xsane]

2010-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:09:25 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > no, for the exact reasons you wrote, daylight saving make no sense. > > With daylight savings the sun is not the highest at noon. And changing > > time pu

Re: [gentoo-user] Rethinking binfmts [WAS: How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?]

2010-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > For example, debugging information doesnt need to exist within the > binary itself. An external file would be fine, too, and allows > removing them by standard file operations. man make.conf: splitdebug Prior to

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> openoffice depends on libwpd > >> libwpd depends on libgsf > >> libgsf pulls gconf in. > > > > Hm. I

Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm -d 1 -X 68 ?

2010-02-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 18 Februar 2010, James wrote: > Hello, > > > hdparm -i /dev/hda > > Model=IBM-DJNA-371350, FwRev=J76OA30K, SerialNo=GM0GMGB6505 > Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs } > RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=34 > BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=19

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: hdparm -d 1 -X 68 ?

2010-02-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 18 Februar 2010, walt wrote: > On 02/18/2010 01:57 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 18 February 2010 14:33:38 James wrote: > >> Should I put the drive into udma4 mode? > >> > >> If so, wouldn't I use: > >> > >> hdparm -d 1 -X 68 /dev/hda > > > > According to the hitachi manual (who

Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 19 Februar 2010, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'm currently rsyncing an OS (new gentoo install) from one vmware disk > to a newly created one. > > I know not to copy /proc but not sure about /dev. Looking at an > unbooted OS disk with an install on it... I see /dev/ is populated > (with no bo

Re: [gentoo-user] no libdri.so with ati-drivers-10.1

2010-02-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 20 Februar 2010, Adam wrote: > I tried 10.1 but just got a blank screen. The log file shows that xorg > couldnt load libdri.so, and the file is missing under /usr/lib64/xorg. > (its at /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so in 9.9-r2) > > So, any ideas or should i issue a bug repo

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 20 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 14 February 2010 11:32:12 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:03:40 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial > > > > changes, so a

Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now. > How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to > reiserfs and xfs? > they don't even come close in performance. XFS sucks with files who are not multi megabyte in size.

Re: [gentoo-user] how to emerge mldonkey?

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Xi Shen wrote: > hi, > > i got a wired problem. when i was trying to emerge net-p2p/mldonkey, > the process hanged at this step: > " > > Checking Ocaml compiler. > > checking for ocamlc.opt... /usr/b

Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > On 21 February 2010 14:03, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: > >> I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now. > >> How does it compare in perfor

Re: [gentoo-user] how to emerge mldonkey?

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Crístian Viana wrote: > then how was this ebuild (net-p2p/mldonkey-3.0.0) considered stable? a) LTQ b) read the ebuild thank you.

Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL 5.1 and Amarok

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 21 February 2010 11:44:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > It's not possible to use Amarok with the "embedded" USE flag with the > > newly released MySQL 5.1. Why is that? Can we expect it to work at > > some point? > > Do you mean it does

Re: [gentoo-user] how to emerge mldonkey?

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote: > On 21 Feb 2010, at 14:37, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Crístian Viana wrote: > >> then how was this ebuild (net-p2p/mldonkey-3.0.0) considered stable? > > > > a) LTQ > > Love that q

Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and Cyclic Link Detection

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, ubiquitous1980 wrote: > I cannot log into my bank website (Westpac Banking Corporation) due to a > Cyclic Link Detection in Konqueror. Any ideas on how to resolve? tell them their webpage is broken?

Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL 5.1 and Amarok

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > It's not possible to use Amarok with the "embedded" USE flag with the > newly released MySQL 5.1. Why is that? Can we expect it to work at > some point? you can use amarok with embedded useflag. just unmerge it and emerge it again - I just

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 22 Februar 2010, daid kahl wrote: > >> > > > On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial > >> > > > changes, so any configs you ran at the default, which is probably > >> > > > the majority, won't be flaged at all. > >> > > > >> > > so does cfg-update > >> > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde4 panelbar recovery

2010-02-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 22 Februar 2010, James wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: > > With the mouse. > > Must be something wrong. These panels that fire up > are disfunctional. Cant move add or delete too them > > > You might want to delete your ~/.kde4 folder instead to get back at the > > def

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-02-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer > important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. > I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from > any of them is a panel with some favorites,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-02-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > >>> I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-02-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>> On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > I've been u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-02-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/24/2010 07:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 24 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > >>> On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Wasee

Re: [gentoo-user] How to untar without first knowing the tar contents?

2010-02-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 25 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >I backed up my wife's home directory using tar in preparation to > moving her to a new machine but I don't remember the exact command I > used to do the tar command. When I tried to untar on the new machine > it failed to do anything. (ex

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the proper fstab line for shm memory (tmpfs)

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, William Kenworthy wrote: > I have a number of systems with different shm lines in fstab - but which > is correct? - I think they all work, but which is best (and why)? The > main use I am concerned about is a PXE system with root over nfs where I > am putting the portag

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > > The machine _mostly_ crashed while running badblocks. I say mostly > because the mouse is still alive but I can no longer ssh in and cannot > open a terminal on my wife's desktop or get to the console. because it is not crashed but waiting for t

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> The machine _mostly_ crashed while running badblocks. I say mostly > >> because the mouse i

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful > lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start one from the terminal (be > it Dolphin, Konqueror or whatever) the output generated is pretty much > gigantic. It's stuff l

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