On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote:
> >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote:
> >>>> Hello list,
> >>>> when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs
> >>>> kdelibs compiled with USE="semantic-desktop" and cannot be told to not
> >>>> use it. But I do not like the idea of semantic desktop and I will not
> >>>> install it.
> >>> 
> >>> you don't even now what that is. Right?
> >>> 
> >>> You just don't use 'it' and you are fine. Btw, I am sure you already
> >>> have it installed with soprano.
> >> 
> >> My understanding is the semantic-desktop is just the latest incarnation
> >> of kde's clone of google desktop search which just wastes CPU, memory,
> >> and disk space.  Personally I don't see the need for this technology as
> >> I'm perfectly happy waiting a few seconds on "find" every few months.
> > 
> > your understanding is wrong. Completely wrong. Seriously it hurts.
> > 
> > start here:
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework)
> > 
> > and then proceed with the links.
> > 
> > google-desktop is something completley different (and something that can
> > be replaced with find, locate and grep).
> 
> OK, after reading several articles from the given starting point, I now
> understand why semantic-desktop wastes so much cpu, memory, and storage
> (really, if you organize your data properly who cares about a file's
> relationship to an email?).  

because to 'organize it properly' you would need a huge directory tree plus 
symlinks plus explaining notes to even simulate a small token of the stuff 
'semantic desktop' can do for you..

> Also didn't read anything even hinting at
> security awareness of the technology which is really scary (imagine an
> attack that get's access to the RDFs,

those RDFs are in your home directory. If someone can read your home you are 
screwed anyway. 

> it'd tell the attacker exactly which
> additional files to target). 

oh yes, reading stuff about emails tells him to read more emails. That is 
scary.

> And since I don't use/like dolphin, I'll
> stick with my original opinion that the semantic-desktop should be totally
> disabled/uninstalled.

and you can do that. Oh wow. That useflag only turns on soprano. Nothing else. 
Which means nothing. You are not forced to use that stuff.

> 
> IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find another
> desktop manager (even after being my primary desktop for 7 years).

yeah good luck with that. Because gnome is moving in that direction too.

Seriously guys, you start sounding like luddites. Is new, must be bad.

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