On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-18 1:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-18 1:54 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:> On
> Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> I'm curious as to the extent of these programs, and to what extent
>>> they *truly* require systemd.
nd OSS, and HAL.
That's how free software evolves.
It only needs people willing and able to write and maintain new cool software.
Regards.
[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/272668
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/logind/
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On Feb 18, 2014 3:05 PM, "Sebastian Beßler"
wrote:
>
> On 16.02.2014 21:56, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
> Hello List.
>
> > and all are linked (not compile&link) in such a manner that you can't
> > just pick and choose. Oh no, you get the full treatment if you like it
> > or not.
>
> A few weeks
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 18/02/2014 23:32, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> And you always can run other legacy logger alongside the journal, and
>> have both things; binary logs for fast retrieval, and text logs if you
>> so desire.
>
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 02/18/2014 12:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>>> Yet again, I respe
k also with the journal, as I showed up.
If you *want* to, everything is online.
Regards.
[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journalctl.html
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html
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at's configured once in the environment and
> should be handled using environment variables.
I'm sorry, but *everything* you are asking for is in the link I gave
you that you qualified it of "not necessary for this discussion" (I
also pointed someone else to [2]). If you are
ds.
[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/272694
[2]
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/targets/systemd/
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafl
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>
>
> 20.02.2014 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés пишет:
>>
>> [ snip ]
>>
>>> but I do not see the point, beyond as a nice gimmick.
>>
>>
>> Well, I *do* see a point. Many points, actua
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 10:55 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point -
>>> that
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl
wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 1:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> The moment I saw that the profile is already done, I changed my
>> mind; the people using systemd ALREADY did the work (which seems to be
>> trivial, BTW
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
>>> No, actually, I think whatever is defined as the current default should
>>> dictate which group should be required to do the work.
>
>
>>
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Michael Higgins wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:38:46 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tanstaafl
>> wrote:
>> > On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >>>
>&g
;t come before to open our
eyes to this undeniable truth. Now it's too late, the sky is falling
and the world will end on fire and brim.
> Those who did have
> been written off as conspiracy theorists or FUDders. Time will reveal all.
Indeed it will. Wanna bet a beer?
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ack are available for
analysis. If you are *really* interested in the topic, take a look at
this neat LWN article about it [1].
[ sniped the rest of the conspiracy theory ]
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[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/512895/
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 02/20/2014 07:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>>> On 02/15/2014 08:09 PM, walt wrote:
>>>> On 02/15/2014 12:30 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
iped the part without any hard evidence nor technical arguments. ]
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aid that.
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ot;modules".
Why would you disallow shell communication? It's pretty useful. But it
will be complemented with dbus IPC and systemd controlled processes.
It works pretty much like this with GNOME right now.
If you don't want this, just keep using OpenRC. Nobody is forcing
system
once in the environment
>>> and
>>> should be handled using environment variables.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but *everything* you are asking for is in the link I gave
>> you that you qualified it of "not necessary for this discussion" (I
>> also p
it.
> What comes next? Systemd-Windowsd, a systemd replacement for all other
> desktop environments? Systemd-Browserd? Systemd-Officed?
Yeah, because configuring an static IP is similar to LibreOffice.
Get real.
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael Higgins wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:40:46 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> But I'm going to save you some bucks: there is nothing fishy.
>>
>> Carry on with the wires on the tin hat.
>>
even with boot being on LVM over RAID.
> ¿Somebody have any ideas to make it work?
I didn't tested in a real life machine (I've never been a fan of
neither RAID nor LVM), but in a VM it worked without a hitch. Again,
check [1] and [2].
Hope it helps.
Regards.
[1] http://article.
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ snip ]
> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/269586
> [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/269628
Also, check [3], since the solution on [2] was unnecessarily complex.
Regards.
[3
s used in PID 1
[2] (which, of course, you conveniently ignored although I replied
specifically to you).
Therefore, I'm not going to waste more of my time arguing with someone
who doesn't even read the proper documentation.
I'm done with you in this thread.
Regards.
[1] http://0
' historical announcement (ca. 1991) of what eventually
become the Linux kernel[1].
Regards.
[1]
http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2010/04/the-first-linux-announcement-from-linus-torvalds/
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systemd installed (not necessarily hosted in
the Gentoo infrastructure), because is works really nicely install
Gentoo from systemd-nspawn instead of a chroot.
Someone would have to do that, though; I hope to help with that in the future.
> I will however be installing a systemd desktop in a vm to play properly.
> YMMV
Thanks again for a succinct, impartial and objective analysis of systemd.
Regards.
[1]
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/net-misc/openssh/files/sshd.service?view=markup
[2]
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/net-misc/openssh/files/sshd.socket?view=markup
[3] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/activate
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> actually I agree - even if it is only to get journactl on a bootable cd!
:D
>> Someone would have to do that, though; I hope to help with that in the
>> future.
>
> to end on a merry note [6] and kind of why i wrote this
Thanks for sharing.
Regards.
>>> I will however be installing a systemd desktop in a vm to play properly.
>>> YMMV
>>
>> Thanks again for a succinct, impartial and objective analysis of systemd.
>
> very welcome, hope this helps others
>
>> Regards.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/net-misc/openssh/files/sshd.service?view=markup
>> [2]
>> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/net-misc/openssh/files/sshd.socket?view=markup
>> [3] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/activate
[ snip sig ]
> [4] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd
> [5] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots.html
> [6]
> http://allpoetry.com/poem/9326367-Everybody--Anybody--Somebody--Nobody-and-Someone-Else-by-YoungDumbCrazy
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obody touches their systems.
Since OpenRC is the default in Gentoo, and I don't think that will
change anytime soon, they can have that.
Regards.
[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/584176/
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s completely needed
So, if something breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 23/02/2014 20:18, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> I don't think forking would attract much developers. Writing something
>> new trying to follow "the*nix design principles", but being modern and
>>
says
nothing.
> I am not saying that his coding is poor (I'm not qualified to judge), or that
> systemd is wholesale bad. But, is this a whole new design paradigm in the
> development of Linux that we should applaud and follow, or just a mistake
> borne out of ignorance/arrogance/expedience?
Or people willing and able to try new ideas that they believe are awesome?
> Time will tell.
Indeed; although, as I see, time is already telling us.
Regards.
[1] http://proness.kix.in/talks/foss.in07-plan9.pdf
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6PFjoYuml0&t=28m27s
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media-sound/banshee
> =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1-r2
>
[ snip emerge output ]
>
> For ease of upgrades, you might want to add
> >=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3
> in /etc/portage/package.mask rather than specifying it with a specific
> version on the co
s for corrective action.
But in Unix you usually don't halt, you set errno and go on your merry way.
> If I mistakenly
> tell a system to do B, really meaning do A, that's my fault. If I tell
> it to do A, and it decides to do B, I will be extremely p'd off.
I don&#
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:11 PM, eroen wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:47:55 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM, eroen wrote:
>> > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> &g
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 23 Feb 2014 23:54:32 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mick wrote:
>>
>> [ snip ]
>>
>> > Well, I'm no authority on this since I can't code,
>>
>> My
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 25/02/2014 14:40, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> On 2014-02-24 4:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> In Gentoo you need systemd, but that's a decision from the Gentoo
>>> maintainers. They do the job, they make the
tmpfs
> not everyone will realise this which is why i listed it as a 'gotcha' --
> a nuance in working with it but not a major issue.
OK, thanks for the clarification.
[ snip ]
> thanks for the clearing up
No prob.
Regards.
[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree
kctl and netctl had
nothing to do with each other.
> The thing is that I would expect systemd to handle the whole thing on
> its own (with the help of iproute2) so that services have nice
> grain-level dependencies.
If someone writes support for this and convinces the systemd
maintainer
On Feb 25, 2014 10:40 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht
wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > The way systemd services handle network whatever "network manager" you
> > enable is the last thing preventing
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> The 20/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> > Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile may
>>just
>> > be 'overkill', how about something simple
btusb
rmmod bluetooth
modprobe bluetooth
modprobe btusb
modprobe bnep
modprobe rfcomm
systemctl start bluetooth.service
;;
esac
exit 0
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[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-sleep.html
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cy driver as it (the
> laptop) is older than dirt. So I'm gonna have to fix the problem on the
> laptop.
>
> Whew. Long winded. Suggestions please?
You upgraded udev and lost support for the legacy network interface
names. You should read [1] to really understand the issue, but
; emerge -pv systemd vi
I'm sure most of the cyclic dependencies will break, and for the first
leg of the installation you don't need X nor documentation.
Did you selected a profile different from the default one?
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ing.
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nd, my english is no too good
>
> Thank you list! Bytes! ;)
In your system (booting directly, not with LiveCD), do:
dmesg | grep -i 8169
I'm pretty sure you will need some kind of firmware for your card. The
logs in dmesg will tell.
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t's a firmware problem, it should complain about it
in the logs.
>From your system, what does lspci says?
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t says:
>
> Error: Could not insert 'r8168': Function not implemented
If I'm reading your kernel config correctly, you cannot modprobe
r8168; you have it compiled in the kernel. If you set it up as a
module (CONFIG_R8169=m), then I don't understand the "Function not
way modprobe r8168 still not work :/
I still don't recognize the error. What does lsmod | grep "816[89]" says?
Regards.
[1]
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
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that *CANNOT* result in
anything good, unless you know precisely what are you doing, and even
then most people would not recommend it.
It looks like you don't have kernel module support. Is that so?
What does the following command prints:
find /lib/modules -name "*r816*"
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On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Facundo Curti wrote:
> 2014-03-09 5:28 GMT-03:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
>
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Facundo Curti
>> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> First of all, you should not need to run any script. udev should
&g
;s its critical chain:
centurion ~ # systemd-analyze critical-chain systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.
└─systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer @1.871s
└─sysinit.target @934ms
└─swap.target @934ms
└─dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-Swap.swap @923ms +11ms
└─dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-Swap.device @923ms
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ents, I don't see anything (obvious) that
you can speed up. Next step would be to get a SDD, I guess.
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WantedBy=courier-imap.service
That means that if you do:
systemctl enable courier-authdaemond.service
Then it will be enabled... if courier-imap.service it's also enabled.
Do you have courier-imap.service enabled? If you have
courier-imap.service enabled, it is correctly started when booting t
esn't* show up. Could you please post that?
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m because why not.
Regards.
[1]
http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=blob;f=init.d/dmesg.in;h=5b001fca7542ce7e003af30ca49fdf471efd8871;hb=HEAD
[2]
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.html#Kernel%20Command%20Line
[3] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.h
de to make ModemManager optional to
NM, I think (but I could be wrong) that the Gentoo GNOME devs would
take it; but it will never be accepted upstream. At this point I think
I agree with them.
Sorry if this doesn't help.
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On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
[snip]
> Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit.
> Where is Canek with his knowledge of systemd?
Canek was sleeping because it was 6:37 AM on a Saturday morning.
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situation similar to the
one Stefan is having, so I haven't updated any of my systems on weeks.
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On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Sounds like an issue with the mdadm script/unit.
>>> Where is Canek with his know
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:08 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On 3 May 2014 15:48:03 CEST, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote:
>>Am 03.05.2014 15:46, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, J. Roeleveld
>>wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>&
254:502G 0 crypt [SWAP]
`-vg-vol5 (dm-4) 254:40 2.8G 0 lvm
`-home (dm-6) 254:6 0 2.8G 0 crypt /home
Do you want to see any other config?
Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as you.
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On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[...]
> Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as you.
Total: 124 packages (107 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 5 new, 2 in new slots,
9 reinstalls, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 663,051 kB
This is going to t
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 03.05.2014 19:25, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> Do you want to see any other config?
>
> The version numbers would be interesting:
>
> grub
> dracut
> lvm2
> systemd
sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>> wrote: [...]
>>
>> > Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same is
In my stable machines I only have two keyworded packages:
sys-kernel/dracut
sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
The vanilla-sources package will always be unstable, apparently, so
nothing to do there. However, I whish dracut got stabilized at some
point.
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On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 03.05.2014 21:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:30:43 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[snip]
> Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as
> you.
OK, I updated everything, and I certainly hit an issue. With
sys-kernel/dracut-037, I cannot boot; it gets stuck after loading the
initramfs
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 05.05.2014 07:09, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Let me try to update this test VM to see if I can hit the same issue as
>
at do you have in your VIDEO_CARDS variable? It's usually
defined in /etc/portage/make.conf. If you don't have it, try to set it
up to nouveau:
VIDEO_CARDS="nouveau"
Also, what's the output of "equery l -if x11-drivers/"?
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gs (none I can find), but then again /var was not mounted.
>
> Any help with this would be appreciated.
I use dracut for my initramfs; I would recommend you to try it.
However, last time I tried to use it with LVM (a few days ago), the
last version (037) failed, but 036-r4 worked perfectly.
Regar
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:15 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:22 AM, wrote:
>> > Hi. I have been trying to get systemd to boot, but I have run into
>> > several problems and need some help. I am using everything but /boot
ange from boot to boot.
> Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
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On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM, wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > OK, I will try dracut,
>>
>> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
>> RAID/LVM related stu
> big characters and I can't get rid of it using the mouse or keyboard.
> I also tried
> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
> with no improvement.
If you are on systemd, that does nothing. You want systemctl restart
gdm.service.
Regards.
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pressed). I tried two mice with the same result.
>>
>> Press "Esc" instead to release the screensaver.
>>
>> Stefan
>
> ESC did not help.
Allan, could you reemerge again x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev? And then
restart gdm?
Regards.
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Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:43 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM, wrote:
>> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM, wrote:
>> >> [snip]
>> >> >
ttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
[3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
(for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
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Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM, wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
>>
>> As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Jc García wrote:
> 2014-05-14 9:51 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM, wrote:
>>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM, wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>
7;t in 037. I think that's a bug.
John, with respect to your case: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline"
to get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate
your initramfs?
Regards.
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Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread,
so I'm just replying to my last participation. ]
Stefan, have you tried to run "dracut --print-cmdline" and add that to
your kernel command line?
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM, wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
>>
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> [ It's been more than a week since I last participated in the thread,
> so I'm just replying to my last participation. ]
>
> Stefan, have you
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 15.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> Am 15.05.2014 08:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:48 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM, wrote:
>> > [snip]
>> >>
>> >> Well, the workaround
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:39 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM, wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >
>> > Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>> > had debug in the kernel command line,
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> With -H, you don't get the kernel cmdline, and therefore your kernel
>> cannot load your LVM volumes since it doesn't know their... names? I
&
e
specified in your lilo.conf? If after booting /audio is mounted, then
I think we have found the problem. We'll need just to figure out why
dracut --print-cmdline does not print the other lvms.
Also, could you try to generate your initramfs again, but this time
with add_dracutmodules+="sy
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 15.05.2014 20:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>> Am 15.05.2014 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>>
>>>> With -H, you don&
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:53 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> > Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
>> >
>> >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
>> >
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:46 AM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> > Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
>> >
>> >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
>> >
ive.
If you don't use the systemd module, your initramfs uses a custom init
script to mount /usr and similar stuff. It seems to work, but I trust
more systemd to do it, and I certainly prefer not to rely on any
script during boot up.
Also, for non-trivial setups, I'm sure systemd handles them better
that a custom init script; that's why I recommended John to use the
systemd module.
Regards.
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
don't see (or
ignore) your system messages, that work gets multiplied several times.
Reconfigure, recompile, and reinstall your kernel (don't forget to
reinstall the modules!), regenerate your initramfs, update lilo (if I
remember correctly, you need to run lilo -something-or-another every
time you change kernel and/or initramfs), and try again.
Regards
[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.network.html
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:11 PM, wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> I don't understand the current situation .So now you get ALL your
>> >> volumes activated, or not?
>> >
&
-212-r1)
>
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C sys-power/upower
emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
and then update world as usual.
The changes in upower does not make systemd mandatory, but you need to
switch from upower (which now has systemd as a hard dependency) to
upower-pm-utils (which depends on the unmaintined pm-utils).
Regards.
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 June 2014 09:29:35 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> If I understood correctly, you need to:
>>
>> emerge -C sys-power/upower
>> emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
>>
>> and then upd
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
>> infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
>> it happens is
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