Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Friday 20 January 2006 21:08, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > and better integrated with other open source projects out there. > That is not a quality of Gnome but GTK. Gnome uses GTK while KDE uses QT. Since (earlier) QT had a non-acceptable license for most of the developers of FLOSS, they cho

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:41, James wrote: > #for unlimited traffic on the loopback interface > iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT since I've done my "flushing" all my rules are nice and permissive ;) dimon2 ~ # iptables -t filter -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCE

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE? [OT]

2006-01-20 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:01, darren kirby wrote: > > Unscientific: > Google for: > "kde rules" --> 40,900 > "kde sucks" --> 9,660 > "gnome rules" --> 554 > "gnome sucks" --> 10,500 > > Draw your own conclusions. ..or we could always use googlefight ;) http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome

2006-01-20 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 20 January 2006 11:46, a tiny voice compelled Ryan Tandy to write: > A quick glance at my profile reveals the 'gstreamer' USE flag in > make.defaults. Be sure that you have that explicitly disabled in > make.conf before giving up. You know, I never checked that, although I found the sa

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE? [OT]

2006-01-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 20 January 2006 22:02, Abhay Kedia wrote: > On Friday 20 January 2006 15:01, darren kirby wrote: > > Unscientific: > > Google for: > > "kde rules" --> 40,900 > > "kde sucks" --> 9,660 > > "gnome rules" --> 554 > > "gnome sucks" --> 10,500 > > > > Draw your own conclusions. > > ..or we cou

[gentoo-user] pptpconfig... missing config option?

2006-01-20 Thread Justin Hart
Hi, I am running pptpconfig to connect to my school VPN. After it "updates" resolv.conf, I see that I have no nameserver entries whatsoever! Ack! Are there config lines that are supposed to be in my peer file to specify my nameservers? -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] iptables question

2006-01-20 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:49, Trenton Adams wrote: > Under the *nat rule, > > -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58443 -j DNAT --to > 192.168.7.1:443 > > Under the *filter rules. > > -A ADAMS-FW-INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp > --dport 443 -j ACCEPT I tried similar co

Re: [gentoo-user] python: stack smashing attack

2006-01-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/20/06, El Nino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear my friends, > > i just try to issue '#emerge -e world' but it stoped by giving > following error... please help me to solve this problem. There are a few bug reports of "stack smashing" problems on bugs.gentoo.org, most seem to be related to us

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Alexander Kirillov
and better integrated with other open source projects out there. That is not a quality of Gnome but GTK. Gnome uses GTK while KDE uses QT. Since (earlier) QT had a non-acceptable license for most of the developers of FLOSS, they chose GTK over QT. This lead to more and more applications being

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Mike Owen
On 1/20/06, Linux Java <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. > > I used Gnome for years (5 or 6 maybe?), but have recently switched to kde-3.4 and then now kde-3.5. For me, I wanted to try something different, and it is a nice change. I may swap back ev

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:51:40 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > One can & I do configure KDE to be simple & unobtrusive: the panel is > hidden & has no app start-buttons & (of course) there are no desktop > icons. I use the rather cute Apwal (in Portage) tied to the left > mouse-button to get a pretty di

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Christoph Eckert
> I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. I wanna know how interesting such a discussion is ;-))) . Please resist to develop a flame war from this topic. Better enjoy open source, regardless if it is KDE, Gnome, OSS, ALSA, OpenOffice.org or Koffice etc., simply enjoy the times we a

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:52:39 +, b.n. wrote: > > And can somebody explain the need to use http to set > > up a printer on one's own computer? Afterall PC > > *does* mean personal computer. I'm assuming that > > localhost:631 is on my own machine. But even so it > > seems a bit much. > > Becau

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:29:12 -0600, Paul Varner wrote: > As the current maintainer of gentoolkit, please do what Neil said and > place it in /usr/local/bin and not /usr/bin Can you tell us what qpkg and etcat are deprecated, Paul? Is it because of a lack of a maintainer or is there something fund

Re: [gentoo-user] python: stack smashing attack

2006-01-20 Thread Ryan Viljoen
> info outputhowever you are using distcc. So, are all of your > distcc hosts using the same version of gcc, or are any of them > "hardened"? I had a similar problem with distcc. Not a stack smashing attack though. Distcc should not be used to emerge any core packages such as python, portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; > > This search all files for the search phrase. Using find with a separate call to grep for each seems a slow way to do things. What's wrong with fgrep -r ? fgrep -lr 'search phrase' director

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Alan E. Davis
On 1/21/06, Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > even go back to Afterstep or Enlightenment, but for now kde-3.5 works > for me. > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday installing e17 on two of three machines. It is smaller than Kde, but background is 20% of cpu .

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Statux
I, personally, refuse to use CUPS because I can't get it to do raw text-only printing (ala my Oki Microline 320 Turbo). I use LPRng instead :/ Anyone with different results? On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:27 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:52:39 +, b.n. wrote: > > > > And can

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Robert Crawford
On Friday 20 January 2006 14:29, Paul Varner wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 19:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:30:57 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > I too like qpkg more than equery, at least for what I usually need to > > > do. My solution is just to put a copy of qpk

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Lithion
emerge app-portage/euses. This is a great app for searching for USE flag descriptions. On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:00 am, Tom Smith wrote: > I've been trying to determine what this particular USE flag does but > there doesn't seem to be a description of it anywhere (I also checked > gentoo-portage.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Philip Webb
060120 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:51:40 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> I use the rather cute Apwal (in Portage) tied to the left mouse-button >> to get a pretty display of icons to start common apps, > Apwal looks rather neat. How did you tie it to the LMB in KDE? KDE Control Cent

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 21 January 2006 00:44, Alan E. Davis wrote: > On 1/21/06, Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > even go back to Afterstep or Enlightenment, but for now kde-3.5 works > > for me. > > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday > installing e17 on two of three mac

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Philip Webb
060121 Alan E. Davis wrote: > But one glaring deficiency keeps hitting me in the face > -- you can't do links with them. AFAIK Krusader can create links quite readily: look at its manual. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Phi

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Holly Bostick
Abhay Kedia schreef: > On Friday 20 January 2006 19:59, Holly Bostick wrote: >> more comfortable with a more Windows-like environment, and >> Windows-like assumptions about what a user wants/needs from their >> desktop, KDE may be just the thing; that is, after all, what it's >> designed to do t

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking weirdness

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 08:40 +0100, Heinz Sporn wrote: > Am Freitag, den 20.01.2006, 00:46 -0600 schrieb Michael Sullivan: > > What do you make of this? > > > > bullet ~ # emerge -pvuD world > > > > The new Gentoo-way to go for PHP is to use dev-lang/php. There's a nice > documentation on how to

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking weirdness

2006-01-20 Thread kashani
Michael Sullivan wrote: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] dev-lang/php (is blocking dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4) [ebuild N] dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4 +X +berkdb +crypt +curl -debug +doc -fdftk -firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external +gdbm +gmp -hardenedphp +imap -informix -ipv6

Re: [gentoo-user] vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:14:01 +0100 Paweł Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | for me it is used to make vim modular X compatible. Wha? No no no. If that flag is off, vim won't go anywhere near X. If that flag is on, vim will link against either modular or non-modular X. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-20 Thread Paul Varner
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:29 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Can you tell us what qpkg and etcat are deprecated, Paul? Is it because > of a lack of a maintainer or is there something fundamentally wrong with > them? In the case of qpkg, there are several un-fixable bugs. In the case of etcat, its co

Re: [gentoo-user] How To Set NIC? (Was: Rx Errors on NIC)

2006-01-20 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 1/19/2006 11:37 PM Rumen Yotov said the following: On (19/01/06 18:15), Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 12/29/2005 3:33 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: I have a AMD Athlon 2800+ processor running on a Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard. This motherboard uses the Nvidia NForce2 chipset. It has both

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
The bottom line on GUIs is ease of use. The tradeoff is flexibility and options. I have NEVER, EVER understood why dumbing down things means making them easy to use. That's a line of reasoning that gets me mad. Look, the "Advanced" tab/dialog/whatever is not exactly a new invention. m. -

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
I myself don't see it as "minimal fuss", not least because KDE makes so many choices for me in its "feature richness" that I have to spend two hours (I'm being kind) finding all the bloody options that I don't want and change them or turn them off or whatever. Sorry, I simply can't understand w

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Dale
On Friday 20 January 2006 17:32, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; > > > > This search all files for the search phrase. > > Using find with a separate call to grep for each seems a slow way to do > things.

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with CUPS

2006-01-20 Thread Manuel McLure
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:46, Statux wrote: > I, personally, refuse to use CUPS because I can't get it to do raw > text-only printing (ala my Oki Microline 320 Turbo). I use LPRng > instead :/ This is definitely possible with CUPS - just create a queue and select "Raw" for make and "Raw Queue"

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 20 January 2006 06:40, a tiny voice compelled Kristian Poul Herkild to write: > Anthony Roy skrev: > >>I use KDE. I tried Gnome and didn't like it. Some people with > > > > Me too. I've given Gnome a try several times (the latest on a recent > > Ubuntu Live CD, and I just don't like th

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Holly Bostick
b.n. schreef: >> I myself don't see it as "minimal fuss", not least because KDE >> makes so many choices for me in its "feature richness" that I have >> to spend two hours (I'm being kind) finding all the bloody options >> that I don't want and change them or turn them off or whatever. > > Sorr

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:44:19 +1000 "Alan E. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday > installing e17 on two of three machines. It is smaller than Kde, but > background is 20% of cpu . Buggy. Beautiful. A PITA to configure, > and m

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Rafael Fernández López
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linux Java wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. > I love KDE. It is fully customizable and its code is simply perfect. One thing that I love from KDE (that makes it less "fast") is that is written in C++, that has lot

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware Testing a PC

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Sanders
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:26:23 + Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try searching Freshmeat for "stress test", there are several programs to > put network, CPU, I/O etc. through their paces. There's also StressLinux, > a live CD containing a number of these programs. > emerge -uDNav st

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread Linux Java
It's nice of you to give me so detailed explanation! I think I would like to use gnome for long time ^_^ Thank you very much On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 15:29 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Neil Bothwick schreef: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:13 +0800, Linux Java wrote: > >> I wanna to know KDE and Gno

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-20 Thread b.n.
I'm just writing it for the sake of curiosity, so no flaming is here. Just because some answer sound quite "sarcastic", but that's just a style thing to get it short. :) Yes, but you then have bloat (because Konqueror contains web browsing features that you are not using, therefore the code is

[gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-20 Thread Chris White
On Friday 20 January 2006 18:10, Linux Java wrote: > I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen... Ok, let's sit here and ponder. People like KDE, people like GNOME, hell, people like fluxbox and xfce. Now to put this in perspecti

Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-20 Thread Dale
Chris White wrote: >On Friday 20 January 2006 18:10, Linux Java wrote: > > >>I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular. >> >> > >That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen... > >Ok, let's sit here and ponder. People like KDE, people like GNOME, hell, >people like fluxb

Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (20/01/06 19:58), Dale wrote: > On Friday 20 January 2006 17:32, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > > find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \; > > > > > > This search all files for the search phrase. > > > > Using find with a separate call to

[gentoo-user] Emerge PEAR packages.

2006-01-20 Thread Pupeno
How are you supposed to emerge PEAR packages today ? After upgrading, portage wanted to install dev-lang/php, so I done it remove some blocking packages, including dev-php/php and dev-php/mod_php. Now emerging PEAR-XML_Parser or PEAR-DB wants to emerge dev-php/php back, what I am supposed to do ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? *ROTFLMAO* that gave me the biggest laugh in a while... thanks :) -- Iain Buchanan That government is best which governs least. -- Henry David Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience" -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

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