Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a >> religious person, using profanity, or that we respect each other. The >> three of them are orthogona

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Sunday 11 Nov 2012 21:39:50 Pau Peris wrote: > Hi, > > thanks to all for your questions, this issue is also happening to me on a > fresh install so i'm pretty sure a package/lib is missing. > > Hope someone can get out a clue. Thanks. :) Maybe you can try installing kdebase-startkde or kde-ba

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:50:04PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill >> wrote: >> [snip] >> > It offends me. >> >> That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I >> suggest you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 03:57:52AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> FWIW, swearing here is rare. Usually it's understandable when it >> happens. >> >> Threads like this current one are also rare. Unfortunately of late they >> usually involve Lennart, and that's understandable too:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 03:57:52AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > FWIW, swearing here is rare. Usually it's understandable when it > happens. > > Threads like this current one are also rare. Unfortunately of late they > usually involve Lennart, and that's understandable too: > > In trying to so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a > religious person, using profanity, or that we respect each other. The > three of them are orthogonal, I think. > > I try to respect every member of this lis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:50:04PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill > wrote: > [snip] > > It offends me. > > That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I > suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous for his outbursts: you > p

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Keith Dart wrote: > Re > 2012185801.58964939@dartworks.biz2012185801.58964939@dartworks.bizCADPrc83+5zUQ+GzCSvyHhZa7BZfMqqagZCosktasOY1sdhCx0Q@mail.gmail.com2012175313.54b9acf1@dartworks.bizCADPrc80EwExpbdcJX1a+aE0DA=iopqw-QOaozmUBJCs5FGew-g@mail.gmail.

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd] Right way to start an nfs server?

2012-11-11 Thread Aaron Russell
I was having the same problem. I had found and nfs package for fedora and in it had the .service files. I used those and got it to work. On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:56 PM, walt wrote: > I'm sooo close, but I'm doing something wrong with nfs server, and my nfs > clients keep getting rejection me

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Keith Dart
Re 2012185801.58964939@dartworks.biz2012185801.58964939@dartworks.bizCADPrc83+5zUQ+GzCSvyHhZa7BZfMqqagZCosktasOY1sdhCx0Q@mail.gmail.com2012175313.54b9acf1@dartworks.bizCADPrc80EwExpbdcJX1a+aE0DA=iopqw-QOaozmUBJCs5FGew-g@mail.gmail.com20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > If you don't like it, feel free to filter me, ignore me, or wathever > course of action you think you should take. I will not censor myself > just to placate the sensibilities of someone. Regards. First time in over eight years that I have had to do this. So sad. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Keith Dart
Re 509F99F3.7060405@coolmail.se509F99F3.7060405@coolmail.se2592463.C9mGjqLMLj@gentook7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Peter Humphrey said: > Not wishing to hijack the thread, but have you thought about lasers? Light sabers are the future, dude! -- Keith -- -- ~~~

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Keith Dart wrote: > Re > 2012175313.54b9acf1@dartworks.biz2012175313.54b9acf1@dartworks.bizCADPrc80EwExpbdcJX1a+aE0DA=iopqw-QOaozmUBJCs5FGew-g@mail.gmail.com20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Dale wrote: [snip] > If you are not a religious person, then fine, some of us are. It > doesn't mean we can't still respect each other and be a better place > than the LKML. I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a religious person, using

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Keith Dart
Re 2012175313.54b9acf1@dartworks.biz2012175313.54b9acf1@dartworks.bizCADPrc80EwExpbdcJX1a+aE0DA=iopqw-QOaozmUBJCs5FGew-g@mail.gmail.com20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Canek Peláez Valdés said: > Mmmh.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-11-11, Dale wrote: > I'm not saying that every single transformer out there has mineral oil in it but according to that, it is still in common use. Also, according to that it also does the job of removing the heat from the transformer too. If yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill > wrote: > [snip] >> It offends me. > That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I > suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous for his outbursts: you > probably would get offended a lot. > > Regards.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > In trying to solve a general problem, Lennart has a knack for breaking > Gentoo - this distro does not fit the general problems he works on. Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops, desktops, servers and me

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:06:37 -0600 Bruce Hill wrote: > Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky. > > Over the last 9 years I've subscribed/unsubscribed to a good number > of lists. The first such abuse of others was A.O.L.S. -- yes, you > just look bad, real bad. >

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-11, Dale wrote: >>> I'm not saying that every single transformer out there has mineral >>> oil in it but according to that, it is still in common use. Also, >>> according to that it also does the job of removing the heat from the >>> transformer too. If you want, watch this video. Y

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Keith Dart wrote: > Re > 20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, > Canek Peláez Valdés said: >> Just a word of advice: if you are a normal laptop

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 November 2012 12:28:35 pk wrote: > ... Well, I do hate solutions looking for problems to solve, Not wishing to hijack the thread, but have you thought about lasers? -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Keith Dart
Re 20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Canek Peláez Valdés said: > Just a word of advice: if you are a normal laptop user, systemd has > replaced most of the functionality of c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: [snip] > It offends me. That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous for his outbursts: you probably would get offended a lot. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Cienc

[gentoo-user] Even further OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 November 2012 16:39:56 Grant Edwards wrote: > AFAICT, all CDC system software was awful. I hope that isn't entirely true, because of this little tale. Some years ago Empros (another CDC company, in Plymouth, MN) had a large fraction of the world's electricity grid control market se

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:14:29PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Hill > wrote: > [snip] > > Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky. > > I try not to use profanity most of the time. In this particular case, > I believe it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: [snip] > Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky. I try not to use profanity most of the time. In this particular case, I believe it was appropriate since, really, who the FUCK cares if I have been suscribed or not t

[gentoo-user] Re: chromium print bug?

2012-11-11 Thread walt
On 11/11/2012 11:49 AM, Grant wrote: Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring up the print dialog without a printer attached? Thanks for the workaround :) Whenever I try to print to a file from chromium, the browser freezes and I need to kill the process to contin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:24:32 -0600 > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> Which is >> easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around" >> longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order". > > > slow down t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 06:24:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > > Say Dude, > > > > I have a question (well, two actually) > > > > My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years. > > > > What's your name, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:24:32 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Which is > easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around" > longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order". slow down there a little bit please I don't really think it's me you're riled

[gentoo-user] [systemd] Right way to start an nfs server?

2012-11-11 Thread walt
I'm sooo close, but I'm doing something wrong with nfs server, and my nfs clients keep getting rejection messages. I got my systemd scripts here: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#NFS I know the problem is with the nfs server because the nfs clients work normally if I boot the nfs server

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] > It's completely relevant. I meant irrelevant, of course. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:03:38 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this > > here meritocracy. > > I think the OP has already done that with his previous posts. > > Or are you worri

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800 > 微蔡 wrote: > >> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道: >> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann >> > wrote: >> > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here >> meritocracy. > I think the OP has already done that with his previous posts. > > Or are you worried that he's after your attitude stripes? :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here > meritocracy. I think the OP has already done that with his previous posts. Or are you worried that he's after your attitude stripes? :P -- Neil Bothwick Life is

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:48:16 -0600 > Dale wrote: > > That figures. So, emerge -e world it is from time to time then. > > Binaries may not have this problem but they sure do have their share > of other problems. lol > haha, you mean like when you have lib v1 and you want t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800 微蔡 wrote: > 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道: > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't > > > want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies,

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:48:16 -0600 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:29:11 -0600 > > Dale wrote: > > > >> I have noticed that when I do a KDE upgrade and something acts a > >> little funny, a emerge -e world generally fixes it. I do wish there > >> was a way to know w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:06:12 schrieb Dale: >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > for coolin

Re: [gentoo-user] chromium print bug?

2012-11-11 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
Just try, and chromium get crazy too. I'm using chromium 24.0.1312.5 with KDE by the way. 2012/11/11 Grant > Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring up > the print dialog without a printer attached? > > - Grant >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:06:12 schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > >>> for cooling in engines > >> > >> I w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and >>> for cooling in engines >> I was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short >> o

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Pau Peris
Hi, thanks to all for your questions, this issue is also happening to me on a fresh install so i'm pretty sure a package/lib is missing. Hope someone can get out a clue. Thanks. :) 2012/11/11 Chris Walters > On 11/11/2012 07:31 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:29:11 -0600 >

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg ?

2012-11-11 Thread julian
On 11/11/2012 08:02 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > after crosscompiling into a rootfs at > /usr/armv7a-softfp-linux-gnueabi/. I want to quickpkg the results. > > How can I tell quickpkg to take the contents of that rootfs and not > parts of the "original" rootfs? > > Thank you very muc

[gentoo-user] chromium print bug?

2012-11-11 Thread Grant
Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring up the print dialog without a printer attached? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg ?

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 20:02:55 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > Hi, > > after crosscompiling into a rootfs at > /usr/armv7a-softfp-linux-gnueabi/. I want to quickpkg the results. > > How can I tell quickpkg to take the contents of that rootfs and not > parts of the "original" rootfs? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 12:15:14 schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > > for cooling in engines > > I was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short > out when it leaks on a mobo, so

[gentoo-user] quickpkg ?

2012-11-11 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, after crosscompiling into a rootfs at /usr/armv7a-softfp-linux-gnueabi/. I want to quickpkg the results. How can I tell quickpkg to take the contents of that rootfs and not parts of the "original" rootfs? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Marc Joliet wrote: > I wasn't sure what he meant, either, although looking it up, it seems > that the term "mineral oil" basically means "a petroleum based oil". > In fact, according to Wikipedia [0], that holds even for the food > product "mineral oil" - which, according to the same article (see >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > and since baby oil is so great for the job we use it as lubcritant and > for cooling in engines I was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short out when it leaks on a mobo, something mineral oil doesn't do according to what I have read. I

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-11, Pandu Poluan wrote: > And, IIRC, Seymour Cray likes to use some inert fluoride-based coolant to > dunk the components of his supercomputer machines. And he would even go to > lengths to design a "coolant fountain" that's not only functional, but also > decorative. Back in the 80's

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Chris Walters
On 11/11/2012 07:31 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:29:11 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> John Walters wrote: >>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:58:42 +0100 >>> Pau Peris wrote: >>> i've just upgraded kde through a custom @set, the same i used over the last years, but this time alth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:35:35 -0600 schrieb Dale : > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: > >> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> Oh, we like digressions :-) > >>> > >>> I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > >>> system without h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 09:35:35 schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: > >> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> Oh, we like digressions :-) > >>> > >>> I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > >>> system witho

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:29:11 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> I have noticed that when I do a KDE upgrade and something acts a >> little funny, a emerge -e world generally fixes it. I do wish there >> was a way to know what needed to be emerged again without doing >> everything. OP,

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:45:48 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I have never seen or heard of a kernel blowing up a computer. > If you can't do it, no one can :P > > ROFL Very true. The only thing I thought of after hitting send was if a person has a laptop and they build a kernel th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> Oh, we like digressions :-) >>> >>> I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a >>> system without heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil! >>> They m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 11, 2012 9:22 PM, "微蔡" wrote: > > 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 13:59:50,Jorge Almeida 写道: > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, pk wrote: > > > On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > >> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of > > >> the same totalitarian mindset

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread 微蔡
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 13:59:50,Jorge Almeida 写道: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, pk wrote: > > On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of > >> the same totalitarian mindset that is determined to poison Linux? > > > > Can'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 21:32:41 schrieb 微蔡: > 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道: > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is > > > forced upon you. If it is also based on l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, pk wrote: > On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of the >> same totalitarian mindset that is determined to poison Linux? > > Can't we just calm down and try to be reasonably nice? I rea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread pk
On 2012-11-11 13:52, 微蔡 wrote: > ok , then why hate systemd ? you seems to hate systemd with no reason. This is my last reply to this thread. I dislike systemd, for the reasons I've already stated. Please re-read my responses if you want to know why I dislike systemd. What I do _hate_ is being fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread pk
On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote: > or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of the > same totalitarian mindset that is determined to poison Linux? Can't we just calm down and try to be reasonably nice? I really didn't intend to start a flame war here... I jus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread 微蔡
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is > > forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A > > lot of people don't need n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is > forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A lot > of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread 微蔡
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 13:28:35,pk 写道: > On 2012-11-11 08:33, 微蔡 wrote: > > byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you. > > Ah, instead of a rational explanation of what kind of problem systemd > solves for me you conclude: I'm a hater?... Well, I do hate solutions > looking for problems

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 20:03:33 schrieb 微蔡: > 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 12:09:46,Volker Armin Hemmann 写道: > > > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡: > > > 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45,pk 写道: > > > > > > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote: > > > > > :) systemd is coming whether you or

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:45:48 -0600, Dale wrote: > I have never seen or heard of a kernel blowing up a computer. If you can't do it, no one can :P -- Neil Bothwick Many husbands go broke on the money their wives save on sales. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] kde splash screen won't show up when loading kde

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:29:11 -0600 Dale wrote: > John Walters wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:58:42 +0100 > > Pau Peris wrote: > > > >> i've just upgraded kde through a custom @set, the same i used over > >> the last years, but this time although kde-base/ksplash is > >> installed kde splash s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:03:33 +0800, 微蔡 wrote: > sorry about that. different sulotion is good, but *hate* is bad. > because when you do some techical decisions , *hate* will lead to > wrong decisions. Which is why we were doing fine here until *you* introduced hate into the thread. -- Neil B

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread pk
On 2012-11-11 08:33, 微蔡 wrote: > byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you. Ah, instead of a rational explanation of what kind of problem systemd solves for me you conclude: I'm a hater?... Well, I do hate solutions looking for problems to solve, especially where there are none to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡: >> 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45,pk 写道: >> >> byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you. > > > >> You maybe paid by some Linux hate company to express like this. T

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread 微蔡
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 12:09:46,Volker Armin Hemmann 写道: > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡: > > 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45,pk 写道: > > > > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote: > > > > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to > > > > > > > > stay a bit ahead

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > Oh, we like digressions :-) > > > > I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a > > system without heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil! > > They made a large acrylic container,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡: > 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45,pk 写道: > > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote: > > > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to > > > > > > stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all. > > > > Yes, systemd may be coming