Re: [gentoo-dev] lurking *.ebuild'less packages

2012-03-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > slep noticed and reported an odd thing: > > $ euse -i kate > ... > ls: cannot access /gentoo/portage/metadata/cache/kde-base/kdebindings-perl-*: > No such file or directory > ls: cannot access /gentoo/portage/metadata/cache/kde-base/kde

[gentoo-dev] Change USE flags when compiling with FEATURES=test

2012-03-17 Thread Matt Turner
So you run set FEATURES=test to run a package's test suite during keywording. Later, you emerge -vuNDa ... and portage wants to reemerge that package with USE=-test. Can't we avoid this somehow? I presume in the vast majority of cases emerging with FEATURES/USE=test doesn't actually affect what's

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote: >> On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible >>> reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own partition are hi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 03/30/12 17:15, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> Maybe it's time for Gentoo-2.0? > > I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we > declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I think > claiming 2.0 would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ocamlopt unmask on arm

2012-04-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM, wrote: > Dear All, > > I have just emerged ocaml-3.12.0[ocamlopt] on arm and used it to compile > mldonkey[ocamlopt]. It seems to work well. > > it was masked on Apr 18, 2010, > , > | /usr/portage/profiles$ grep -n -B3 ocamlopt ./arch/arm/use.mask > | 31-# Ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: A tiny news item for migrating to libjpeg-turbo

2012-04-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > What is the plan for platforms that are not supported by libturbo? It's not that they're not supported, just that libjpeg-turbo doesn't have optimized routines for them. It'll still run fine. (Check the keywords, you'll see that it's stabilize

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christian Ruppert wrote: > I haven't followed the prev. conversation but what's wrong with a USE flag for > SSE2? We already have SSE2 flags, even global.. That's not it. The flash binary uses SSE2 instructions without checking for their presence, which causes bad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > wouldnt adding a sse2 useflag and putting it in REQUIRED_USE solve the > problem ? > > afaik portage wont even try to upgrade if people have -sse2 If that works, which I think it will, that does sound like the best thing to do.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-04-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 30 April 2012 12:00:59 Rich Freeman wrote: >> doing it wrong.  I don't like how Google develops Android in the dark, >> or that they bundle 1GB of third-party stuff in their Chromium source >> and distribute a favored binary-only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christian Ruppert wrote: > On 04/26/12 at 06:00PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:04:08 -0600 >> Ryan Hill wrote: >> >> > Arg, no.  Please just print the warning if the host doesn't do SSE2. >> > There's no reason to have a USE flag here (an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible lastrite of sys-fs/rar2fs (waiting for upstream reaction)

2012-05-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > # Samuli Suominen (05 May 2012) > # Broken with unrar-4.2.1 wrt upstream ticket of: > # http://code.google.com/p/rar2fs/issues/detail?id=10 > # Either waiting for fixed release, or the package will > # be removed in 30 days > <=sys-fs/rar2f

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. >> >> I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for >> some reason t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > 2. Arches were Git repos are too heavy (Kumba wanted this for MIPS) Please don't go to this trouble for the ability to commit to portage on *really* slow systems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Arun Raghavan wrote: > I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git > Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems > and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's > good enough for you. > -- > Aru

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:45:46 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:43:10 +0200 >> Pacho Ramos wrote: >> > > It treats -r300 as being newer than -r200, and so will treat "the >> > > gtk3 version" or "the jruby version" as

Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5))

2012-06-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul- packages and also because multilib is pretty important for mips. > If a package has dependencies, then those dependencies are required to have > at least the same targets

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Matt Turner schrieb: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> >> >> I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul- >> packages and also because mult

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Matt Turner schrieb: >> I suppose that's just for ease of implementation? Not having to >> special-case packages that don't install binaries. > > I dont follow. Did you think about only having additional ABI fl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make connman a global USE flag

2012-07-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Several packages are using it with the same sense (support connman), > maybe we should move it from local to global USEs, what do you think? Off-topic question, but how is connman related to NetworkManager? Is it an alternative, or is it usefu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept

2012-09-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Since DEPENDENCIES hasn't been written up in a Gentoo-friendly manner, > and since the Exherbo documentation doesn't seem to suffice to explain > the idea here, here's some more details on the DEPENDENCIES proposal. I like this. It seems we

Re: [gentoo-dev] example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies

2012-09-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > 1) 746 hits in the tree for COMMON_DEPEND; that's 2%, and the usages > I'm aware of have been for literally, what it sounds like- depends > that are both DEPEND and RDEPEND. CDEPEND is pretty common as well. I could 466 files with CDEPEND.

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 19 September 2012 03:18, Alec Warner wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> Readability is more important, and there I still don't buy the >>> argument that the new syntax is better, and that any gain would

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Matt Turner wrote: > >> From the other thread ("example conversion of gentoo-x86 current >> deps to unified dependencies"): > > [Sorry, I've missed this one

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 19 September 2012 14:01, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: >>> On 19 September 2012 03:18, Alec Warner wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Ulrich Muelle

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build > packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. Thanks a lot, Michał! This looks good to me. > Use case: xorg packages, ask Matt. So the idea is that users want up

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 22/09/2012 18:54, Matt Turner wrote: >> I'd like to add multilib USE flags to Mesa and thus its dependencies. >> I realized that almost everything in x11-libs/ could be converted very >> easily, which wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 22/09/2012 20:42, Matt Turner wrote: >> I think this means "make 32-bit binary packages' dependencies on amd64 >> not use the emul- packages"? If so, that'd certainly be a component of >> gett

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:02 AM, hasufell wrote: > I prefer the stronger solution. This is just a quick workaround. And I'd prefer if people who aren't involved with what I'm working on don't try to block my progress. I appreciate your opinion, and truthfully I'd just rather have portage handle

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Matt Turner schrieb: >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build >>> packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > One problem that I remembered now: > If every ebuild inheritting this eclass (either this one or similar) > will add a "multilib" USE, people running multilib profiles will get it > enabled for ALL packages inheritting it, causing them to see h

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-24 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:10:21 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:59:14 -0300 >> Alexis Ballier wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:51:27 +0200 >> > Michał Górny wrote: >> > >> > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:19:43 -0300 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install > media be replaced with > pbzip2. It was closed a short while later, telling me that it'd > involve changing what's kept in @system, and that had to be discussed > here, ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-17 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> As I posted elsewhere, working on a project based on "hate" only lasts >> so long. I should know, that's the reason I started udev in the first >> place over 9 years ago. > > The Xfree86 people generated a lot of hate, just like Sievers an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Richard Yao posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:35:22 -0500 as excerpted: > Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as an optiona

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/18/2012 11:59 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: >> All I'm asking is some kind of coherent mission statement. > > How can we define a mission statement when we are still in the process > of understanding the codebase, what it does well and wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> I haven't heard back from them, maybe you can ask them what's up. > > This has been setup (with Donnie's help): > > https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/gentoo > > I've claimed 15 of the p

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] xorg-2.eclass: Enable verbose build logs.

2017-03-04 Thread Matt Turner
From: Agostino Sarubbo Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/458000 --- eclass/xorg-2.eclass | 6 ++ 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) diff --git a/eclass/xorg-2.eclass b/eclass/xorg-2.eclass index 1af1705..fe44658 100644 --- a/eclass/xorg-2.eclass +++ b/eclass/xorg-2.eclass @@ -472,9 +472,15 @@ xorg-

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] xorg-2.eclass: Enable verbose build logs.

2017-03-04 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Matt Turner wrote: > >> + # Check if package supports a verbose build >> + if grep -q -s "disable-silent-rules" ${ECONF_SOURCE:-.}/configure; then >> +

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] xorg-2.eclass: Enable verbose build logs.

2017-03-04 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Matt Turner wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> Isn't that rather pointless, given that in all non-deprecated EAPIs >>> econf wil

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-misc/ofl

2017-03-05 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner (05 Mar 2017) # Part of dev-util/hxtools (and collides with it) # Removal in 30 days. Bug #445436 app-misc/ofl signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] eclass/kernel-2: Add additional help text when K_SECURITY_UNSUPPORTED is set

2017-03-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > This patch will add some additional text to bring some additional notice > to users > about the security considerations of a specific kernel and direct them > to the > upstream website for further information. See bug #599454 In the future, pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux/dma-buf.h mysteriously missing

2017-03-29 Thread Matt Turner
It's a bug that has since been fixed by kernel commit 2220fc1ab363e6fab1f321430d69be17a8b92bd7 ("uapi: add missing install of dma-buf.h"). The header was originally added in 4.10, and the fix commit is in 4.11-rc1. I guess we just need to hack around it in sys-kernel/linux-headers-4.10.

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux/dma-buf.h mysteriously missing

2017-03-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> It's a bug that has since been fixed by kernel commit >> 2220fc1ab363e6fab1f321430d69be17a8b92bd7 ("uapi: add missing install >> of dma-buf.h"). The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping ia64/ppc/sparc profiles to dev/exp

2017-05-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: >> >> It isn't like security project adds any additional load to any arch >> team, an architecture capable to keep up with normal keyword and >> stabilization requests should also be ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Profile-enforced big-endian USE flag

2017-06-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:19 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 23:29:03 +0100 > James Le Cuirot wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 6:44 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: >> > > I am therefore proposing a new global big-endian flag. This could be >> > > masked by default and unmasked +

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > Hi all. > > every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, I always > see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. > Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put more > effort in

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

2017-07-12 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:03:25PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:42 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns >> > about users bricking systems by writing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

2017-07-12 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage wrote: > What needs to be changed for the bootloaders? I may be able to assist. The documentation should be updated to say that with OpenRC 0.28 that you'll have to remount efivars as RW before you can install the bootloader (e.g., grub-install) The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for help in testing - sparc + gnutls-3.5

2017-07-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for someone that is using gentoo on sparc and is willing to > help out to resolve an issue[1] of gnutls-3.5 with sparc so that we can drop > gnutls-3.3 from tree. > > I tried to create a bootable sparc qemu gentoo imag

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-proto/evieext

2017-07-15 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner (16 Jul 2017) # Header package for removed x11-libs/libXevie. No dependencies. Removal in a # month (#615314) x11-proto/evieext signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

2017-08-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:16 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers > before wielding their chainsaws ?? Musta missed that policy doc ... Can you please stop? You're contributing nothing but noise to this mailing list.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites:sys-apps/more

2017-08-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > # Mikle Kolyada (26 Aug 2017) > # Masked for removal in 30 days. > # No major keywords, old EAPI, no maintainer. > # Use sys-apps/less instead. > sys-apps/more Isn't it just part of util-linux? The HOMEPAGE link makes me think so, and my s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On dropping sparc@ from CC on bugs

2017-09-12 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: > On Monday, September 11, 2017 3:43:13 AM EDT Sergei Trofimovich wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:18:08 + >> >> bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org wrote: >> > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person >> > whose email i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Given that sandbox is utterly broken by design, I don't really want to > put too much effort in trying to make it a little better. I'd rather put > the minimal effort required to make it not-much-worse. You said in your initial email that you

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flags in base profiles

2017-10-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > The following USE flags are enabled by default in our base/linux > profiles. I think they can be disabled, possibly turning them on in > package.use (or in the ebuilds) if they are important. Yes, no? > > 1. USE=cracklib (base/make.default

Re: [gentoo-dev] Open Build Service

2017-11-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Samuel Bernardo wrote: > Hi, > > I send this email to know the devs opinion about Gentoo integration with > Open Build Service[1]. It sounds like an interesting idea. I've long thought that making our binary package story more compelling would greatly improve the d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes: validation of single hash per MANIFESTx_REQUIRED_HASH

2017-11-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:15 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > What I wanted to avoid was something I encountered on the GCC mailing > list: When I asked why GCJ was removed, I was told that it was hard to > maintain. When I asked for an example of past maintenance issues (and > made it clear I had no interest

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-23 Thread Matt Turner
Very few if any users. They break occasionally with new xserver versions, and then I have to do the leg work to fix them, make the upstream releases, and then push them into Gentoo. Again, for between zero and one person to use. I left some other ancient ones that are also candidates for removal,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-24 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:24:24PM -0800, Matt Turner wrote: >> Very few if any users. They break occasionally with new xserver >> versions, and then I have to do the leg work to fix them, make the >> upstream re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-24 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Richard Bradfield wrote: > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:24:24PM -0800, Matt Turner wrote: >> >> Very few if any users. They break occasionally with new xserver >> versions, and then I have to do the leg work to fix them, make the >> upstr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-25 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pią, 24.11.2017 o godzinie 18∶02 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Richard Bradfield >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:24:24PM -0800, Matt Turner wrote

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Unmaintained x11-drivers/xf86-input-* drivers

2017-11-25 Thread Matt Turner
Unmaintained upstream since 2011. Likely zero users. Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/606132 x11-drivers/xf86-input-acecad x11-drivers/xf86-input-aiptek x11-drivers/xf86-input-fpit x11-drivers/xf86-input-hyperpen x11-drivers/xf86-input-mutouch x11-drivers/xf86-input-p

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-03 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > The problems of more abusive behavior from some of the mailing list > members have been reported to ComRel numerous times. After the failure > of initial enforcement, I'm not aware of ComRel doing anything to solve > the problem. The main argum

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-03 Thread Matt Turner
A user requested I forward this information to the mailing list: There's been research, on this, and the study by harvard business school was summarized and discussed by NPR in 2015: [ Turns out toxic coworkers are more than just an annoyance. A new study out of the Harvard Business School warns

Re: [gentoo-dev] We Are All wltjr On This Blessed Day

2017-12-04 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > That being said, that people find it acceptable to talk behind another's > back. Lobbing lots of insults. Then having the ego to assume someone > would create a fake identity. Any minimal research can show otherwise. You did already

Re: [gentoo-dev] We Are All wltjr On This Blessed Day

2017-12-04 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 13:26:26 -0800 > Matt Turner wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. >> wrote: >> > That being said, that people find it acceptable to talk behind >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to implement > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1]. > > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and will come into > effect on 23 January 2018. > > * Subs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel >> wrote: >> > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made t

Re: [gentoo-dev] reproducible builds

2018-02-04 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Samuel Bernardo wrote: > Hi, > > I send this email to know the opinion of gentoo developers about > registering gentoo profiles in the context of reproducible-builds.org Reproducible builds makes sense when you're distributing binaries to users. That's not typicall

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Dead X11 packages

2018-02-07 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner (06 Feb 2018) # Dead and unused # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #646838 x11-libs/libXCalibrate x11-libs/libXfontcache x11-misc/xtscal x11-proto/fontcacheproto x11-proto/xcalibrateproto x11-proto/xf86rushproto signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Dead X11 packages

2018-02-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Brian Evans wrote: > On 2/7/2018 9:54 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> # Matt Turner (06 Feb 2018) >> # Dead and unused >> # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #646838 >> x11-libs/libXCalibrate >> x11-libs/libXfontcache >> x11-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Dead X11 packages

2018-02-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Brian Evans wrote: > On 2/7/2018 9:54 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> # Matt Turner (06 Feb 2018) >> # Dead and unused >> # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #646838 >> x11-libs/libXCalibrate >> x11-libs/libXfontcache >> x11-

[gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-05 Thread Matt Turner
EAPI 2 removal bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/648050 It seems like tons of churn to update old stable ebuilds to a new EAPI, just for its own sake. Take https://bugs.gentoo.org/648154 for example. New ebuild added with EAPI 6 bumped from EAPI 2. Otherwise functionally identical. Now asking arch team

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:52:54 -0800 > And with Perl packages at least, incrementing EAPI results in actual > changes driven by the eclass: > > - Changes the names of various control variables > - Makes perl tests on by default, and parallel by de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:00 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Matt Turner wrote: >> >> In the end we might get to delete some code from portage or an eclass? >> Does this seem worth it? > > > To add to some of the points Kent made, I thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Dienstag, 6. März 2018, 02:52:54 CET schrieb Matt Turner: >> EAPI 2 removal bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/648050 >> >> It seems like tons of churn to update old stable ebuilds to a new >> EAPI, just f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: >> >> Is it worth the effort? Yes, see below. >> Is it a high priority task? No. >> > > It sounds like all that has been done is to log a tracker and create > some bugs. That is har

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Andreas K. Huettel >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] cmake-utils.eclass: Make the new ASM-ATT rules actually work

2018-03-19 Thread Matt Turner
Thanks for looking into this! I'm not sure I understand the -nostdlib portion. It's something about working around a side-effect of -x assembler?

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] cmake-utils.eclass: Make the new ASM-ATT rules actually work

2018-03-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:40 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:16:47 -0700 > Matt Turner wrote: > >> Thanks for looking into this! >> >> I'm not sure I understand the -nostdlib portion. It's something about >> working around a side-e

[gentoo-dev] Monthly x11@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-01 Thread Matt Turner
I'd like to start giving ~monthly updates on the status of x11@ packages in Gentoo. I hope it gives some insight into the status of a rather important set of packages and maybe encourages others to lend a hand to a very understaffed project when possible. I expect future reports to be significant

[gentoo-dev] Monthly mips@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-01 Thread Matt Turner
I'd like to start giving ~monthly updates on the status of mips@ in Gentoo. Recently I received a Loongson 3A system (quad-core 1.35GHz, 16GB RAM, AMD graphics) which is significantly faster and more stable than any other mips system I have. mips@ is currently assigned or cc'd on 29 bugs. This n

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly x11@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > == Update packages to depend on x11-base/xorg-proto == > https://bugs.gentoo.org/651286 > > The new x11-base/xorg-proto package combines nearly all (28 in fact) of > the x11-proto/* packages into one, with a very fast Meson bui

Re: [gentoo-dev] berkdb and gdbm in global USE defaults

2018-04-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 14:16:33 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > >>On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 02:55:53PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 04/07/2018 02:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> > >>> > I'm with floppym on this one. Is there a specific reason

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: x11-libs/libXp and x11-proto/printproto

2018-04-22 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner (21 Apr 2018) # Protocol headers and client library for the long dead Xprint extension. # Removal in 30 days. Bug #649076. x11-proto/printproto x11-libs/libXp signature.asc Description: Digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-libs/xpyb

2018-04-22 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner (21 Apr 2018) # Awful, unmaintained, unused. Removal in 30 days. Bug #651300. x11-libs/xpyb signature.asc Description: Digital signature

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/4] xorg-2.eclass: Transition deps to x11-base/xorg-proto

2018-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
DRI_DEPEND can go away since all xf86-video-* drivers now directly depend on x11-base/xorg-proto, which includes the dependencies from DRI_DEPEND. --- eclass/xorg-2.eclass | 25 ++--- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-) diff --git a/eclass/xorg-2.eclass b/eclass/x

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/4] xorg-2.eclass: Fix typo'd DRI_COMMON_DEPEND

2018-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
--- eclass/xorg-2.eclass | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/eclass/xorg-2.eclass b/eclass/xorg-2.eclass index 96a469163cfd..0329a7aa623a 100644 --- a/eclass/xorg-2.eclass +++ b/eclass/xorg-2.eclass @@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ case ${XORG_DRI} in IUSE+=" ${X

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/4] toolchain.eclass: Transition deps to x11-base/xorg-proto

2018-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
--- eclass/toolchain.eclass | 3 +-- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/eclass/toolchain.eclass b/eclass/toolchain.eclass index 2da455ad4e3b..df76dc4feb8c 100644 --- a/eclass/toolchain.eclass +++ b/eclass/toolchain.eclass @@ -206,11 +206,10 @@ DEPEND="${RDEPEND} if in_iu

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 4/4] kde4-base.eclass: Transition deps to x11-base/xorg-proto

2018-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
--- eclass/kde4-base.eclass | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/eclass/kde4-base.eclass b/eclass/kde4-base.eclass index 8abade2677d4..72e4fcfe526b 100644 --- a/eclass/kde4-base.eclass +++ b/eclass/kde4-base.eclass @@ -387,7 +387,7 @@ kdedepend=" dev-util/aut

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug queue size over time

2018-05-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2018, 18:42:32 CEST schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.: >> >> Just checking back here - what would be the best way to graph number of >> bugs with given assignee, preferably with historical backfill? >> >> I'm not necessarily

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] profiles/profiles.desc: move hppa profiles stable->exp

2018-05-06 Thread Matt Turner
> hppa default/linux/hppa/17.0/developer exp > -- > 2.17.0 > Acked-by: Matt Turner For those not in #gentoo-hppa, I attempted to start a conversation with Jeroen about moving hppa to fully ~arch last week. Rolf (who has been stabilizing packages on hppa and sparc) said he was against it, but Jeroen never replied.

[gentoo-dev] Monthly x11@ project status for May 2018

2018-05-07 Thread Matt Turner
Firstly, I'd like to welcome Nick Sarnie to the X11 team. He's been very helpful in improving the state of media-libs/vulkan-loader for a while now, so it's nice to make it official! == Fix x11-base/xorg-server suid/systemd situation == https://bugs.gentoo.org/635102 Frustratingly, not sure if

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly x11@ project status for May 2018

2018-05-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > == Convert media-libs/mesa ebuild to build with Meson == > https://bugs.gentoo.org/652762 > > Ebuild posted. Blocked on problems surrounding LLVM (this is the story of > maintaining media-libs/mesa). > > The problem is tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly x11@ project status for May 2018

2018-05-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2018 13:38:47 -0700 > Matt Turner wrote: > >> >> If there's a way to have repoman alert developers to deprecated >> dependencies in the same way we handle deprecated eclasses, I'd like >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Access to DRM render nodes from portage sandbox?

2018-05-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dennis Schridde wrote: > Hello! > > I see sandbox violations similar to "ACCESS DENIED: open_wr: /dev/dri/ > renderD128" pop up for more and more packages, probably since OpenCL becomes > used more widely. Hence I would like to ask: Could we in Gentoo treat GPUs >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Access to DRM render nodes from portage sandbox?

2018-05-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dennis Schridde wrote: > I see sandbox violations similar to "ACCESS DENIED: open_wr: /dev/dri/ > renderD128" pop up for more and more packages, probably since OpenCL becomes > used more widely. I want to respond to the mention of OpenCL being more widely used...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Access to DRM render nodes from portage sandbox?

2018-05-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dennis Schridde >> wrote: >> > Hello! >> > >> > I see sandbox violations similar to "ACCESS D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Access to DRM render nodes from portage sandbox?

2018-05-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > Irrespective to the answer to that question, it's my opinion that we > should not execute code via the package manager that has the potential > to bring down the whole system. ... and if anyone doubts that possibility, please do

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-i18n/fbiterm

2018-05-20 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner (20 May 2018) # Unmaintained. Dead homepage. Depends on dead libXfont. # Removal in 30 days. Bug #655104 app-i18n/fbiterm signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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