gt; We have to support them indefinitely. It's not possible to uninstall a
> package whose EAPI is unknown.
>
Would it be feasible to do a pkg_pretend() check and refuse
install/upgrade if packages with unsupported EAPI are detected?
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Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:14:33 +0100
> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
>>>> Is there really much of a benefit to this? I guess for anybody who
>>>> runs scripts to mass-manipulate ebuilds it might
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:18:45 +0100
> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Assume a new version 13.37 of your package manager drops EAPI=1
>> support. So package-manager-13.37.ebuild checks in pkg_pretend() if
>> any EAPI=1 package is install
Rich Freeman schrieb:
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> wrote:
>> Assume a new version 13.37 of your package manager drops EAPI=1 support.
>> So package-manager-13.37.ebuild checks in pkg_pretend() if any EAPI=1
>> package is installed on
stionable whether users who update less than once every 6 months are
worth this investment. (I tend to say yes, but that may just be because
many come to #gentoo IRC with the resulting problems.)
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y.
RESTRICT="bindist mirror" should shield us from any claims of wrongdoing
here.
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ange in an elog message.
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r faster or slower?
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obviously the point of
package.use.stable.mask) so the arch configurations will see fewer
testers. This issue may need to be addressed, e.g. by extending
stabilization period or disallowing package.use.stable.mask in default
or desktop profile.
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rg today a good "Linux
> stack"? Isn't the "Android stack" another example of a good "Linux
> stack"?
I'd say that Android is an operating system based on Linux. It is not
'the Linux "stack"'.
I think he was wondering whether
developer who shall remain unnamed here.
But using harsh words to describe other people's software? C'mon.
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[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57643/focus=57918
[2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/7/15/296
[3] https://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/1/217
ses a heavy maintenance burden and will frequently break
compilation, so the majority opinion is to remove -Werror from compiler
flags.
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he issue, then the particular warning could be made non-fatal. hasufell
mentioned in another post the GTK+ deprecated warnings.
Note that I don't propose the current policy to be changed. I can
totally live with filtering -Werror in order to reduce maintenance work,
at the small cost mentioned above.
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o be breakage when someone reverts a commit that it is not
part of your shallow clone's history, and then you pull.
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users' self-compiled boot loaders signed with a Gentoo key is
probably infeasible.
If you have influence on UEFI secure boot spec, you could suggest that
they mandate a UI which lists all boot images known to the EFI boot
manager, and the user can easily whitelist both individual loader
stic.
I think STABLEREQs should not be treated differently from other bugs, as
they require attention too. After you CC: arches, you could change the
status to IN_PROGRESS in order to not receive future reminders.
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Hi,
as no packages I am interested in depend on net-libs/libmicrohttpd any
more, I plan to remove myself from maintainers.
You are welcome to take over the package. Else it will become
maintainer-needed in a couple of days.
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include packaging parts of the airprobe suite,
and importing some interesting ebuilds from Pentoo and betagarden overlay.
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more the _domain_ of it), and net-ftp/tftp-hpa should
> replace it in all ways.
>
> So it'll be removed next month if there are no reasons to keep it around.
Please report a removal bug for this, so any issues concerning users of
netkit-tftp can be tracked.
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II//TRANSLIT -f UTF-8
echo äå | LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 iconv -t ASCII//TRANSLIT -f UTF-8
and compare the output.
For the previous discussion, see this thread:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_2ffb7ea72e6209439600c371f6fc071d.xml
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purpose in
category/package, then I would prefer
firmware-gpu/radeon-ucode
firmware-video/cx18-firmware
firmware-audio/alsa-firmware
firmware-net/isdn-firmware
or similar. This would be better than deviating from upstream package name.
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the Atheros
HAL from the madwifi driver.
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ot
to have any country/region attached to the locale. The C.UTF-8 locale
which Debian uses for this purpose (a UTF-8 locale without side effects)
appears more suitable to me.
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with the possibility for the
maintainer to override) would be ok with me though.
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Olivier Crête schrieb:
> Can we also have a desktop that doesn't use X?
Yes, through Wayland or DirectFB.
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thout an initramfs I'll happily stand corrected.
If your disk is GPT partitioned, then you can use root=PARTUUID=...
without initramfs.
Note that PARTUUID is the partition UUID, not the filesystem UUID.
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retend to install qemu while actually installing qemu-kvm doesn't make
it the Right Thing™.
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gt; ie, LICENSE="(as-is free-non-commercial)" , essentially an
> 'assemble-your-own-license' from the snippets.
We would maybe have to find a different operator for license
concatenation.
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tage to some degree.
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ng variable to express this.
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licenses in our
> tree), and you'll see what I mean.
I tried it on two non-free packages that I maintain (bitstream-cyberbit
and radeon-ucode) and it works well there:
bitstream-cyberbit: 0 but not 1, 2 or 3.
radeon-ucode: 0 and 2 but not 1 or 3.
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Ben de Groot schrieb:
> Since CIA.vc is dead [1], I think we should be looking into a
> replacement service, or host our own [2].
I understand that ohloh is already tracking us (sometimes at least).
http://www.ohloh.net/p/gentoo/
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maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out
against this either.
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WANT_COMPILER=no would not add a virtual/fortran dependency
FORTRAN_WANT_COMPILER=always would unconditionally depend on
virtual/fortran
FORTRAN_WANT_COMPILER=useflag would depend on useflag? ( virtual/fortran )
To avoid breaking existing packages, you could default to
FORTRAN_WANT_COMPILER=fortran
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Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb:
> To avoid breaking existing packages, you could default to
> FORTRAN_WANT_COMPILER=fortran
Sorry, it has to be FORTRAN_WANT_COMPILER=always
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the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think
a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no
maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd
in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages
mentioned above.
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Building firefox, thunderbird or seamonkey against xulrunner is
possible, but not a supported configuration by Mozilla.
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# Build and runtime issues, bugs #340883, #369385, #435444.
# If you require a graphical monitor configuration tool and your desktop
# environment doesn't provide any, try x11-misc/arandr or lxde
rt of their security
concepts.
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kmod
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-psb
Telling people to use xf86-video-fbdev for Poulsbo would be bad advice, they
should use xf86-video-modesetting.
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org/ and
include the relevant logs.
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reak in
libdrm-2.4.33, splitting libdrm_nouveau-2.4.32 into its own separate
package and renaming/modifying libdrm_nouveau.pc to make it installable in
parallel to more recent libdrm[video_cards_nouveau] (bug 409593 comment
30). We ultimately decided against it though.
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instance). This may help in finding more information via Google.
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id a lot.
The same is true for non-redistributable software (RESTRICT="mirror" and/or
"bindist"), software redistributable only in source form (bindist) or
software that may only be downloaded manually (fetch).
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I suggest to at least produce a news item
in order to not surprise users about the sudden loss of their openldap server.
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, and users
would need to explicitly switch to that. After some time, the old profile
would become unsupported and users told to use the new profile.
But today that practice is typically not considered for profile changes any
more.
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.
manifest-hashes = SHA256 SHA3-256
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never do world updates, do I get this right?
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package atoms (which
is the legacy syntax). Bug 616260 is one such example.
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[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html
uce a pie/nopie variant.
Deprecate the nopie profiles once enough packages build successfully
(maybe request a tinderbox run?)
In the profile depreciation message, point to a document how to migrate
to pie.
Setting pie default depending on GCC version is not a good idea IMO.
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issue that package's flag could be renamed
to "libunwind" as sys-libs/libcxx et al. currently use.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
On czw, 2017-05-11 at 11:29 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Suggested description: Add support for stack traces and function name
resolution via sys-libs/libunwind
Maybe skip the library name. Note that there's also llvm-libunwind,
and some packages m
As there were no further comments or objections, I added to profiles/use.desc
unwind - Add support for call stack unwinding and function name resolution
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=d62064cb2ac36c7443bd9dcd46019b9816c5ef9e
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unsupported by most other PDF readers on Linux.
Alternatively you can use Wine to run the Windows version.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
> to:
>
> manifest-hashes = SHA512 SHA3_512
+1
Just wondering about the performance argument on weak systems:
Does Portage absolutely have to check all of the hashes or can it be
configured by the user to check only a subset of them?
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with portage, but not an inevitable consequence of
having 3 hash functions in the Manifest. Portage could be made to check only
one or two of them (even by default), giving the tie-breaking ability to
those who need it, and speeding up things for those who don't.
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-day prior notice +
p.mask which is required before removing a package.
But even that it is not bad, just fix that mistake.
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could alternatively have used a pkgmove from liblinebreak to
libunibreak, then do the bump.
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n_ in the ebuild, but repoman complains about pt_BR.
It should be l10n_pt-BR.
LINGUAS used POSIX locales which define _ as separator between language and
territory, while L10N uses BCP 47 which defines - as separator.
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carefully who in their next Council election
manifesto plans to lift this restriction again.
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Hi all!
Due to lack of time, I have to drop maintainership of games-engines/love.
There is some user interest in this package, and a version bump is
needed (bug 640802).
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et/universe, forums, and wiki.
Council, QA and Comrel are effectively the governing bodies of Gentoo,
enacting and/or enforcing project-wide policy on their own accord. The others
that you mention have only direct power in a very limited area.
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on the authenticity of evidence, identify
potential misconduct, etc.) that they themselves used to build the case
against the reprimanded?
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tic it gets.
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o micro-manage Infra here.
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u dislike mailing list moderation, campaign and/or vote in the next
period for candidates who want to reverse this decision.
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sting,
> but it seems silly to blacklist.
And how often did it actually happen that blacklisting was evaded on -dev
mailing list?
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chips (down to 810, though I believe
that everything below 830 has been quite broken for years).
Of course it is questionable whether there are any such users left at all.
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27;s
EFI stub will function as boot loader.
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wakeup call."
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
Not sure what about this is FUD.
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Sorry about the messed up quoting, somehow enigmail and format=flowed do
not work well together.
narrowly avoided once, and upstream leaves no
doubt that they are ready to do so once their redesigned kernel message
bus goes upstream, I say describing such a move as "definitely
premature" is not warranted.
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orking udev.
Also given the close relationship between systemd and udev, there is no
guarantee that supporting other users of kdbus/bus1 will make udev
automagically work. As these two are released together, there is no
reason to have a stable, public API between them.
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ritics are correct in pointing out that both the
real-world exposure of eudev so far and the size of its development team are
too small. Whether it is a good idea to attempt to increase them by making
eudev the Gentoo default I don't think I am qualified to answer.
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ey can certainly not be dismissed as FUD.
So, yes, we should definitely switch to semi-maintained,
semi-documented fork made plainly of systemd hate.
That is a false dichotomy. Apparently in this world there exist only systemd
love and systemd hate.
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with statements about whether udev will
only use public and stable API, these concerns could be either dispelled or
confirmed.
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-udevd, my statement from today is a more important
reason not to use eudev.
With the exception that Lennart Poettering is the lead developer of
systemd/udev, while such a thing cannot be said about you and eudev.
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e the same codebase. You can no longer build udev
without systemd. udev is only a sub-project of systemd now, hence the
name "systemd-udevd".
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ch already. But do not continue the path of
labelling your opponents as stupid and their arguments as FUD, because this
is clearly not the case. It really doesn't help your argument, it just makes
you look bad.
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so be appreciated.
Here are some pictures from Prague LinuxDays 2015:
http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-nedele/#61
http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-nedele/#62
http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-sobota/#54
http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-sobota/#74
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committing broken things is ok.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
-none - INPUT_DEVICES setting to build no drivers (useful when using binary
drivers)
Not sure about this one, I think it was never used nor intended to be ever
used. Same for VIDEO_CARDS.
Otherwise looks fine to me.
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omatically, via config_protect?
Also, will there be a transition period where users need to have both
variables set?
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encoding with media-libs/libwebp.
www-client/netsurf:webp - WebP image support (media-libs/libwebp)
x11-wm/windowmaker:webp - Enables WebP image format support using
media-libs/libwebp
x11-wm/xpra:webp - Enable webp image format support
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ately, indeed, although I
believe an elog is more appropriate than ewarn in that case.
I vaguely remember that this can be done automatically, through
config_protect to create/update a package.use entry.
Don't ask me on any details though. ;)
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gh a quick Google search didn't find any major usage of that either.
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
Question related to this, do we take the opportunity to standardise
the values? Looks like the vast majority follows
language[_territory][@modifier] specified by POSIX [1] but some
don&#
ention or usage of ISO 3166-2 region subdivisions
in the context of locale. Can you provide any references for this?
As I wrote before, it is not used. But I think it is the only spec-compliant
way to marry POSIX locales with Catalan Valencian. BCP-47 does it in a more
natural way.
Best regar
pt that
merges them. But of course someone needs to step up and make it happen.
[1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Sunrise
Until further steps are decided, I'll add a statement that the project
is inactive and refer people to proxy-maintainers.
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IRED_USE[0].
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[0]
https://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags/index.html#conflicting-use-flags
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ned to resemble POSIX
locales, can change at any time without notice and may be different
between glibc versions.
Also, when it makes mapping L10N to LINGUAS harder, it will discourage people
from abusing the latter.
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erlay
if they needed them.
I think the point of a graveyard repository is that discovering and
extracting deleted ebuilds from git is more cumbersome than from CVS attic.
It would be even better if the graveyard repository preserved the commit
history, but I don't see any easy solution f
Rich Freeman schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
wrote:
I think the point of a graveyard repository is that discovering and
extracting deleted ebuilds from git is more cumbersome than from CVS attic.
It would be even better if the graveyard repository
e is only one second, and that is known well ahead (e.g. leap
seconds): Unless you know that there isn't going to be a problem, a great
deal of care needs to go into handling that.
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ither case, until it was decided that 5
seconds is the maximum drift for a push to gentoo.git.
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multiple versions may be unintentional, but I think you need to
introduce a new eclass or new function names in this case.
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maybe display an upgrading message when they
shouldn't, or vice versa. Now the eclass dies on them.
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Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:17:24 +0200
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Then ebuilds will fail just the same
No. Before, ebuilds would maybe display an upgrading message when
they shouldn't, or vice versa. Now the eclass dies on them.
This attitude that invi
lly) part of the API, and therefore is subject to the
rules about changing APIs in eclasses. I agree that relying on unintentional
or undocumented API is bad and needs to be addressed.
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Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb:
I don't say it is a correct use of versionator.eclass. I just say it has
become (unintentionally) part of the API, and therefore is subject to the
rules about changing APIs in eclasses.
Actually, after reading those rules[1] again, it would be enou
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