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2007-07-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (20 Jul 2007) # Orphaned configuration files using devfsd. # Masked for treecleaners. Removed in 60 days. # Bug 64138. app-cdr/cdrw-base -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-20 Thread Michael Hanselmann
Hello Benedikt On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 01:37:11PM +0200, Benedikt Boehm wrote: > It is basically netqmail split into much smaller chunks so they can be > reused by other qmail variants as well. Okay, I looked through it and found some things which need reconsideration. I agree that user creation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Eric Polino wrote: If this is truly a problem, then I think the negative USE flags might be the better solution then. This would allow users the ability to disable potential insecure features. But really, I doubt security is an issue here. The negative (or no*) USE flags are generally consid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread Richard Freeman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roy Marples wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 23:11 +0100, George Prowse wrote: >> Mike Doty wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>> get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate. >> I have a question for in here. Now this is (rightly) going to -project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Eric Polino
On 7/20/07, Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Polino wrote: > If this is truly a problem, then I think the negative USE flags might > be the better solution then. This would allow users the ability to > disable potential insecure features. But really, I doubt security is > an issu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread fire-eyes
Duncan wrote: > joshua jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:10:35 -0700: > >> Honestly..this is not something to get picky over jakub. Upstream was >> nice and actually came and politely asked us to change the defaults to >> what most peo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread Thomas Scharl
George Prowse schrieb: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500 Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative of the user base in general. So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Jim Ramsay
fire-eyes wrote: > Duncan wrote: > > OTOH, if enabling those protocols pulls in all sorts of additional > > packages to support them, shipping with everything on just because > > it's possible is not the Gentoo way. That's what USE flags are > > for. If indeed additional dependencies are pulled

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread George Prowse
Thomas Scharl wrote: George Prowse schrieb: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500 Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative of the user base in general. So if ten users reply then, are all te

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-20 Thread Michael Cummings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Kundrát wrote: > I'd also like to nominate mcummings (he's an old guy in Gentoo land and > his mails look reasonable), lack (he's a bit fresher, but his mails are > good) and kumba (old guy, nice mails). > > XML has been updated. > > Cheers, > -j

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-20 Thread joshua jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Blackace wrote: > I'd like to nominate: > > vapier > tsunam > nightmorph > seemant > avenj > christel > > Although most of them will probably decline, I think they would do an > excellent job straightening out Gentoo's heading and have the barnacles >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Eric Polino
It would seem there is a good support for a change to enable all protocols by default. What will change this issue from a good thread to an action on the package to implement these ideas? Another suggestion brought to me by an upstream dev was that Pidgin is configured to install all protocols b

[gentoo-dev] Re: Getting -project started

2007-07-20 Thread Duncan
"Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:17:58 -0700: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 09:15:31PM -0500, lnxg33k wrote: >> Ryan Hill wrote: >> > These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as >> > RW. >> > They should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:20:06 -0400 "Eric Polino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would seem there is a good support for a change to enable all > protocols by default. What will change this issue from a good thread > to an action on the package to implement these ideas? File a bug on bugs.gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Getting -project started

2007-07-20 Thread George Prowse
Duncan wrote: "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:17:58 -0700: On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 09:15:31PM -0500, lnxg33k wrote: Ryan Hill wrote: These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as RW. They should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Getting -project started

2007-07-20 Thread lnxg33k
Duncan wrote: > Is anybody subscribed by mail getting stuff on project yet? If neither > gmane or gentoo's archives are showing anything... I've received two mails (I believe that's all) after subscribing sometime wednesday. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Eric Polino
On 7/20/07, Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:20:06 -0400 "Eric Polino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would seem there is a good support for a change to enable all > protocols by default. What will change this issue from a good thread > to an action on the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Getting -project started

2007-07-20 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: > "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on > Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:17:58 -0700: > > >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 09:15:31PM -0500, lnxg33k wrote: >> >>> Ryan Hill wrote: >>> These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce a

[gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread George Prowse
Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: > Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be > heard from developers... Please stop flooding my inbox. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-20 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:52:02 +0200 Michael Hanselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Benedikt > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 01:37:11PM +0200, Benedikt Boehm wrote: > > It is basically netqmail split into much smaller chunks so they can > > be reused by other qmail variants as well. > > Okay, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
++ On 7/20/07, Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: > Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be > heard from developers... Please stop flooding my inbox. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PRO

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread George Prowse
Ned Ludd wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... Please stop flooding my inbox. It is an honest developer question because it was meant to have discussions between d

[gentoo-dev] Re: have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Duncan
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:58:23 +0100: > Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be > heard from developers... It's likely some subscriptions are caught in limbo. See my question on the "Getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Doug Goldstein
George Prowse wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: >> >>> Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be >>> heard from developers... >>> >> >> Please stop flooding my inbox. >> > It is an honest developer question becaus

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Thomas Scharl
George Prowse schrieb: Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... sure -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Dale
George Prowse wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: >> >>> Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be >>> heard from developers... >>> >> >> Please stop flooding my inbox. >> > It is an honest developer question becaus

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Jakub Moc
Dale napsal(a): > George Prowse wrote: >> Ned Ludd wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: >>> Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... >>> Please stop flooding my inbox. >>> >> It is an honest d

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Dale wrote: > George Prowse wrote: >> Ned Ludd wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: >>> Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... >>> Please stop flooding my inbox. >>> >> It is an honest devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-20 Thread Michael Hanselmann
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:05:23PM +0200, Benedikt Boehm wrote: > > qmail_base_install should be split in smaller functions, maybe with > > callbacks (if possible in bash). > There is now qmail_mini_install (called by every qmail ebuild) and > qmail_{full,man,sendmail}_install for the rest of a fu

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Mike Doty
Dale wrote: > George Prowse wrote: >> Ned Ludd wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: >>> Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... >>> Please stop flooding my inbox. >>> >> It is an honest devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 00:02 -0400, Eric Polino wrote: > > Someone mentioned just killing the USE flags and making them all hard > > dependencies, however. I really hope that's not done if additional > > dependencies are involved. > > I see your point, but how different would this be to any applic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote: > Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about than > a technical one. One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help with is some scripts/whatever to get users to do things they might not know they

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Olivier Crête
On Fri, 2007-20-07 at 00:57 +0100, Olivier Crête wrote: > On Thu, 2007-19-07 at 15:22 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:02 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote: > > > I'm all for doing it now in the profile, but it's not my package. > > > Perhaps someone from the net-im herd can make t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Olivier Crête
On Fri, 2007-20-07 at 14:40 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Anyway, if nobody objects and nobody beats me to it, I'll add the USE > flags for the common protocols to package.use in the profiles. Now, the > real question is what should I enable? All of the ones that have no major dependencies are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats

2007-07-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:48:12 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, some things I think we could/should do are: > - GWN > - gentoo-announce > - gentoo-stats (or whatever we have now, if anything) Smolt, which is Fedora's new hardware-profiling program, is actively porting to o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 20. July 2007 23:48, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote: > > Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about > > than a technical one. > > One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help > with is some s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread Thomas Scharl
Chris Gianelloni schrieb: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote: Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about than a technical one. One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help with is some scripts/whatever to get users to do things

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 20. July 2007 23:56, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Smolt, which is Fedora's new hardware-profiling program, is actively > porting to other distributions. We could probably join in the fun > there pretty easily, since it seems our own stats are on hiatus. > > Anyone interested? Damn, always l

[gentoo-dev] New lists and their usage

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
OK. I'm sure this will probably bring upon a ton of responses, but let's hope they all stay on-topic. I'm not posting this to gentoo-project since I think it belongs here until this is agreed upon. So, let's get started: gentoo-dev: This list is for technical discussion, primarily between devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 22:57 +0100, Olivier Crête wrote: > On Fri, 2007-20-07 at 14:40 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > Anyway, if nobody objects and nobody beats me to it, I'll add the USE > > flags for the common protocols to package.use in the profiles. Now, the > > real question is what shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 14:56 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:48:12 -0700 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyway, some things I think we could/should do are: > > - GWN > > - gentoo-announce > > - gentoo-stats (or whatever we have now, if anything) > > Smolt,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New lists and their usage

2007-07-20 Thread Nathan Smith
On 7/20/07, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: gentoo-projects: This list is for... what exactly? I've not really figured that one out just yet. I know it is supposed to be pretty much anything that doesn't fit into gentoo-dev or another project-specific list. Am I correct here? Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] New lists and their usage

2007-07-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:20:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > gentoo-dev-announce: This is the announcement list for > development-related stuff. Now, there's two ideas for how to run the > list, that I can think of, but I'm sure there's others. > > - Make the list set reply-to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats

2007-07-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:29:10 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could have sworn genone was working on something stats-related. He was. I asked him about it a while ago and that's where I got the "hiatus" bit. 00:30 <@dberkholz> genone__: anything ever happen with the stats app

[gentoo-dev] Re: New lists and their usage

2007-07-20 Thread Duncan
"Nathan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:53:02 -0700: > On 7/20/07, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> gentoo-projects: This list is for... what exactly? I've not really >> figured that one out just yet. I know it is sup

[gentoo-dev] Re: New lists and their usage

2007-07-20 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:20:24 -0700: > gentoo-dev: This list is for technical discussion, primarily between > developers, about development and development-related issues that > directly affect the tree or current proj

Re: [gentoo-dev] New lists and their usage

2007-07-20 Thread Kumba
Chris Gianelloni wrote: gentoo-projects: This list is for... what exactly? I've not really figured that one out just yet. I know it is supposed to be pretty much anything that doesn't fit into gentoo-dev or another project-specific list. Am I correct here? Is this what everyone thinks this l

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Kumba
Jakub Moc wrote: _ _ _ _ _ | | | |/ ___| | | | | | | | | | _| |_| | | | |_| | |_| | _ |_| \___/ \|_| |_(_) Stop flooding my mailbox as well with this irrelevant junk finally, it's totally off-topic here; if you want to complain that noone loves you, then go to your nanny, I

[gentoo-dev] Re: have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread George Prowse
George Prowse wrote: Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be heard from developers... I would just like to apologise. The reason why so little (e.g. none) replies to a certain email were recieved was because list does not have "reply to munging" enabled and therefo