[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2013-06-24 Thread Duncan
Tom Wijsman posted on Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:18:07 +0200 as excerpted: > On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:27:19 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > >> Throwing hardware at the problem is usable now. > > If you have the money; yes, that's an option. > > Though I think a lot of people see Lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] repoman default

2013-06-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/24/2013 10:40 PM, Michael Sterrett wrote: > repoman should default to the -I behavior: discuss. Does it make sense to have with ebuilds in the tree with unsatisfiable dependencies? If so, should we distinguish between conditional and unconditional dependencies? Note that if the dependencies

[gentoo-dev] repoman default

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Sterrett
repoman should default to the -I behavior: discuss.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-24 Thread Steven J. Long
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 03:48:29PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 06:10:27PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > > Fabio Erculiani wrote: > > > - only init is currently handled by eselect-init, which is now using a > > > very small wrapper POSIX shell script to redirect the calls

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2013-06-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:27:19 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > I have one; it's great to help make my boot short, but it isn't > > really a great improvement for the Portage tree. Better I/O isn't a > > solution to computational complexity; it doesn't deal with the CPU > > bottl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:04:04PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: > I like the idea. It might help bring developers and users closer. Me too, if I can ever contribute to it, or help users with their Gentoo (Hardened/SELinux/IMA/EVM/...) through it, I'll be happy to work with it. Wkr, Sven Vermeu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > It depends how you run it. We have teams having a video thing > open during the day with there geographically-diverse other team > members and it works well for them. For those teams, it also > improves cohesion. Geographically-diverse te

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I've worked on a VC system most of last year and I now go > through regular conferences... it's barely okay from a work > point of view, it takes lots of time to organize so you don't > want to do that every single day for sure. It depends how

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2013-06-24 Thread Duncan
Tom Wijsman posted on Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:24:27 +0200 as excerpted: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:33:53 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > >> TL;DR: SSDs help. =:^) > > TL;DR: SSDs help, but they don't solve the underlying problem. =:-( Well, there's the long-term fix to the underl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last time touched bugs by year

2013-06-24 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/06/13 03:53 PM, Alex Xu wrote: > On 21/06/13 03:27 PM, Sergey Popov wrote: >> 21.06.2013 23:22, Sergey Popov пишет: >>> 2) package has dead upstream, does not build with current >>> gcc/glibc/binutils/whatever and can not be fixed - bug is >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 09:14:44AM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > A VC is a full commitment, and its attractiveness is often much higher > _before_ you use it.. Agreed. I have found that if I am on a voice chat with someone, say on skype, it requires my full attention, especially since I use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Mike Pagano
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:04:04PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 24 June 2013 11:54, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: > >> > >> That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will > >> be Google+ video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > And unlike IRC meetings, you can cannot multitask, say making your dinner > while discussing this or that feature. Honestly, that bit is a two-edged sword. I was just musing with the Trustees yesterday how it seems the meetings take fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Markos Chandras
On 24 June 2013 11:54, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: >> >> That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will >> be Google+ video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers >> independent of a team. The main goal is to have the teams i

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will be Google+ video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers independent of a team. The main goal is to have the teams introduce themselves and discuss about different issues in th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce global dmalloc USE flag?

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > To be clear, the justification of USE=dmalloc being separated from > USE=debug is that it is so "intrusive" than anyone excepts a developer > would find it too cumbersome to attempt to debug a problem with the > application ? > I th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Pavlos, I understand what you mean, I'm just saying that organizing a real video conference takes its toil. And just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an amateurish feeling that could be more detrimental than not. Can you please tell us if you have _any_ experience at all with VCi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce global dmalloc USE flag?

2013-06-24 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 24 juin 2013 à 12:05 +0300, Samuli Suominen a écrit : > On 24/06/13 11:54, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > > Le samedi 22 juin 2013 à 15:48 +0800, Dennis Lan (dlan) a écrit : > >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>> Hash:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Pavlos Ratis
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: >> >> I do not see the benefit either, it seems like that kind of thing the PR >> department would come up with, which noone does actually like doing and >> everyone is glad when it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Alex Legler
On 24.06.2013 12:01, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Alex Legler schrieb: >> On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >>> I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what >>> is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it >>> would be a bad e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Legler schrieb: > On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what >> is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it >> would be a bad example to use pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Alex Legler
On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what > is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it > would be a bad example to use proprietary software for development or > communication. So we shouldn't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce global dmalloc USE flag?

2013-06-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/06/13 11:54, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le samedi 22 juin 2013 à 15:48 +0800, Dennis Lan (dlan) a écrit : On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/06/13 01:05 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-06-13, o godz. 09:35:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce global dmalloc USE flag?

2013-06-24 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le samedi 22 juin 2013 à 15:48 +0800, Dennis Lan (dlan) a écrit : > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 13/06/13 01:05 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Dnia 2013-06-13, o godz. 09:35:54 "Dennis Lan (dlan)" > >> na

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: > I do not see the benefit either, it seems like that kind of thing the PR > department would come up with, which noone does actually like doing and > everyone is glad when it's over and can go back to work. > I honestly wonder if Pavlos ever t