Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread Dave Fisher
I like the idea of generating a placeholder for a podling on incubation. It can serve many purposes. See the other thread. I don’t think time limits like three months works as some podlings wait more than six months for all of their SGAs. Regards, Dave > On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Greg Stei

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread Greg Stein
Exactly. Nobody ever mentioned "redirect". Gian's original email said "placeholder" five times. On Sun, Apr 15, 2018, 10:15 Gian Merlino wrote: > Hi John, > > What we were thinking in Druid is that we want to have _something_ up on > http://druid.incubator.apache.org/, but it didn't seem approp

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread John D. Ament
Hi Gian, Knowing that you're waiting on SGAs explains this a bit better. I have an inquiry out to press to confirm what's expected (since I know that's why everyone's reacting to websites right now). I would recommend podlings review the Branding guide, there's important tidbits (https://incubat

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread Gian Merlino
Hi John, What we were thinking in Druid is that we want to have _something_ up on http://druid.incubator.apache.org/, but it didn't seem appropriate to move over the full site before the SGA & CLAs have all been finalized (those are in progress). So we put up a temporary placeholder. IMO, a place

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:08 AM sebb wrote: > On 15 April 2018 at 14:48, Greg Stein wrote: > > It is unreasonable to assume a podling can do everything on Day One. > > > > Incubation is a *process*, not an instantaneous production of effort. > > > > While the website work is being performed, ha

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM Greg Stein wrote: > It is unreasonable to assume a podling can do everything on Day One. > > There's nothing about my email that says this needs to be done on day one. > Incubation is a *process*, not an instantaneous production of effort. > > While the website w

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread sebb
On 15 April 2018 at 14:48, Greg Stein wrote: > It is unreasonable to assume a podling can do everything on Day One. > > Incubation is a *process*, not an instantaneous production of effort. > > While the website work is being performed, having > podling.incubator.apache.org NOT produce a 404 is us

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread Greg Stein
It is unreasonable to assume a podling can do everything on Day One. Incubation is a *process*, not an instantaneous production of effort. While the website work is being performed, having podling.incubator.apache.org NOT produce a 404 is useful. Having that page describe the podling is in the I

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-15 Thread John D. Ament
My input is a point for pagespeed to consider. Personally, I'm not comfortable with what's proposed by Druid but it's not worth muddying up pagespeed's inquiry. My preference is for a podling to get their website moved over quickly (and we need to figure out how to help them make that move quickl

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-13 Thread Julian Hyde
I (as a Druid mentor) suggested the placeholder page, for the exact reasons Greg describes. Short term, I promise, and better than a 404. Julian > On Apr 13, 2018, at 20:15, Greg Stein wrote: > > One step at a time. If they want to throw a single page up *today* rather > than wait six weeks t

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-13 Thread Greg Stein
One step at a time. If they want to throw a single page up *today* rather than wait six weeks to fully port their website... I would take the page. We already had an inquiry on Druid of where their site is. A placeholder is better than a 404. Unless, of course, you are personally volunteering to q

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-13 Thread John D. Ament
Gian, Otto, I can tell you that the proposed plan from Druid is not an OK plan from my perspective. One of your short term goals should be moving infrastructure over to the ASF. This includes moving your website over. Redirecting your ASF webpage to your old webpage will not fly. While we can'

Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com

2018-04-13 Thread Gian Merlino
Hi Otto, I am just another podling committer, so this isn't authoritative advice, but for Druid's incubating page we are planning to put up a placeholder page with a link to the current community site. It isn't up yet, but the html we are planning to use is here: https://github.com/apache/incubato