Re: GPL with exceptions (was Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1))

2017-02-12 Thread Eric Covener
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:06 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:21 PM Eric Covener wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> > That's an interesting one. I'm a bit surprised if that would be >> considered >> > OK for this scenario. Sure, HTTPD is

Re: GPL with exceptions (was Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1))

2017-02-12 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:21 PM Eric Covener wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > That's an interesting one. I'm a bit surprised if that would be > considered > > OK for this scenario. Sure, HTTPD is usually used as a standalone > server. > > What happens if you

Re: GPL with exceptions (was Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1))

2017-02-11 Thread Eric Covener
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > That's an interesting one. I'm a bit surprised if that would be considered > OK for this scenario. Sure, HTTPD is usually used as a standalone server. > What happens if you embed HTTPD in your own data parser? You're > effectively violatin

GPL with exceptions (was Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1))

2017-02-11 Thread John D. Ament
Changing topic to avoid polluting the vote. On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:09 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > The problem I see is how autoconf files are actually applied with their > > headers and licenses. > > Interesting. So are you saying it would be OK to remove the original > license header

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-11 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > The problem I see is how autoconf files are actually applied with their > headers and licenses. Interesting. So are you saying it would be OK to remove the original license headers and replace it with an ASF one? > If I look within HTTPD for instance there's no headers Like this file [1]

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-11 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Changing my vote back to +1 (binding). > > > Ok, based on the information provided I'm changing to a +1. We should > > figure out if glog can really be considered acceptable, but if it is > > confirmed as optional then its moot per t

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-11 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Changing my vote back to +1 (binding). > Ok, based on the information provided I'm changing to a +1. We should > figure out if glog can really be considered acceptable, but if it is > confirmed as optional then its moot per the discussion in > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-280

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-11 Thread John D. Ament
Ok, based on the information provided I'm changing to a +1. We should figure out if glog can really be considered acceptable, but if it is confirmed as optional then its moot per the discussion in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-280 John On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:46 AM Wang Wei wrot

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-10 Thread Wang Wei
Hi all, We made glog an optional dependency in this ticket https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SINGA-166 and the commit history is here https://github.com/apache/incubator-singa/commits/master/include/singa/utils/logging.h I removed glog from .travis.yml in this PR https://github.com/apache/ in

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Changing my vote to be also -1 (binding) until the license / dependancy issue sorted, but everything else looks good. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-09 Thread John D. Ament
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:34 PM John D. Ament wrote: > Wei, > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:19 PM Wang Wei wrote: > > John, > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:24 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > Wang, > > > > First, please review [1], especially the Note section. > > > Thank you for the information. >

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-09 Thread John D. Ament
Wei, On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:19 PM Wang Wei wrote: > John, > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:24 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > Wang, > > > > First, please review [1], especially the Note section. > > > Thank you for the information. > > > Second, even if I were to change my vote from -1 to +1 d

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-09 Thread Wang Wei
John, On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:24 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Wang, > > First, please review [1], especially the Note section. > Thank you for the information. > Second, even if I were to change my vote from -1 to +1 do you have enough > votes? Only Justin has voted +1. Or were you carrying o

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-08 Thread Thejas Nair
+1 (binding) Verified signature and checksum Checked updates to LICENSE, NOTICE, and RELEASE_NOTES files On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Wang Wei wrote: > Hi John, > > Could you revise your vote as the glog issue is resolved? > Thanks. > > Best, > Wei > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:25 AM, John D.

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
Wang, First, please review [1], especially the Note section. Second, even if I were to change my vote from -1 to +1 do you have enough votes? Only Justin has voted +1. Or were you carrying over Alan Gates' vote? [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:40 PM Wan

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-07 Thread Wang Wei
Hi John, Could you revise your vote as the glog issue is resolved? Thanks. Best, Wei On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:25 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Fair enough. > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > > https://github.com/google/glog/blob/master/COPYING > > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 201

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-06 Thread John D. Ament
Fair enough. On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM Niclas Hedhman wrote: > https://github.com/google/glog/blob/master/COPYING > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:44 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > Niclas, > > > > So I'll point out a couple of things. > > > > 1. -1's on releases aren't vetos, so if someone e

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
https://github.com/google/glog/blob/master/COPYING On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:44 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Niclas, > > So I'll point out a couple of things. > > 1. -1's on releases aren't vetos, so if someone else (e.g. you) voted a +1 > my -1 would be moot. > > 2. I mentioned in my response that

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-06 Thread John D. Ament
Niclas, So I'll point out a couple of things. 1. -1's on releases aren't vetos, so if someone else (e.g. you) voted a +1 my -1 would be moot. 2. I mentioned in my response that the main issue is that I can't find a listed license for glog and I was choosing GPL because I found a source file with

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Sure, but in this case it is; 1. Singa depends on Glog 2. Glog is BSD licensed 3. Glog use a build tool chain that is GPL'd and includes a build script to compensate for missing toolchain tools. 4. Singa doesn't use Glog's build toolchain Your (John) argument is that Glog is incorrectly li

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-05 Thread Wang Wei
Hi John, Thank you for checking the license of Glog. The document building instructions are here https://github.com/apache/incubator-singa/blob/master/doc/README.md Glog is an optional dependency, which is declared in the installation page http://singa.apache.org/en/docs/installation.html#from-sou

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-05 Thread John D. Ament
We actually just had a discussion recently on legal-discuss on this type of topic. Specifically, Cat-X and optional vs required dependencies. Henri and I settled on the wording you'll find at [1] as the final result. Basically, you can rely on Cat-X but only for optional features. We can probabl

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I think that ends up being a build time dependency in GLOG, i.e. the equivalent of Systems Requirement, and not in itself viral to the ASF software. I assume that Google is much more worried about this and may even have checked with their Legal team... Want to check with legal-discuss@ ? Is my mem

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-05 Thread John D. Ament
-1 at least I think there's an issue. While the source code all looks good, the resulting binary is not valid. There's no how to build doc, so I looked at your .travis.yml. It confirmed what I suspected for make, but then I started looking at your required packages. You require glog [1], which I

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 binding I checked: - name contains incubating - signatures and hashes good (you might consider using something other than md5 for the hash) - DISCLAIMER exists - LICENSE and NOTICE good - All source files have ASF headers - No unexpected binary files - Can't compile from source but likely

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1)

2017-02-02 Thread Anh Dinh
+1 (non-binding) I've checked: LICENSE file no binaries hash and signature correct Would appreciate PMC members to help check and cast their votes. Anh. On 30 January 2017 at 09:24, Wang Wei wrote: > Hi all, > > The SINGA community has voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache > SIN