Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:37 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:38 AM Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:49 AM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> > .. should we just drop the >> > current "policy" document and make the guides the policy documents?... >> >> Cle

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-30 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:38 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:49 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > .. should we just drop the > > current "policy" document and make the guides the policy documents?... > > Clearly separating policy from everything else sounds good to me, but

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-30 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
I think sadly both our policies and guidance are a bit outdated, and for instance very SVN-centric - but I'm all for a split as that means it's at least easier to update the guidance - updating policy (beyond typos) is presumably something that needs to be agreed by IPMC before publishing. The pol

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:49 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > .. should we just drop the > current "policy" document and make the guides the policy documents?... Clearly separating policy from everything else sounds good to me, but the policy docs should then be as concise as possible. Dunno if that c

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Apple
I would be delighted if the answer became cut and dry, modulo the fact that if the cut-and-dry document became a laundry list for everyone's favorite thing, that could move the goalposts pretty far for existing podlings. On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:49 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > So personally I thin

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
So personally I think its great to get input from current podlings on a subject like this. I've made some proposed changes on a separate thread, but I almost think between your comments and Roman's comments... should we just drop the current "policy" document and make the guides the policy documen

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-27 Thread Jim Apple
One way to make The Guide clearer is to make The Policy more accurate. As it is, The Policy is contradicted in various other places on the lists or in the guide or in practice, so as a person who is trying to understand what incubation and graduation are really like, The Policy doesn't read as "The

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-26 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:19 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:16 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:04 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:06 PM, John D. Ament > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:57 PM Greg Stein w

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:16 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:04 PM Greg Stein wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:06 PM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:57 PM Greg Stein wrote: >> > >> > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, John D. Ament >> > > wr

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-26 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:04 PM Greg Stein wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:06 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:57 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, John D. Ament > > > wrote: > > > >... > > > > > > > Graduation Guide http://incubator.a

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-26 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:06 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:57 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, John D. Ament > > wrote: > > >... > > > > > Graduation Guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > > > > > Added a link to the Maturi

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-26 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:57 PM Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > >... > > > Graduation Guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > > > Added a link to the Maturity Model as a step to follow for graduation. > > > > There has been past

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-26 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, John D. Ament wrote: >... > Graduation Guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > Added a link to the Maturity Model as a step to follow for graduation. > There has been past controversy on including that as a graduation step. I'm not clear that

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-25 Thread 冯嘉
great job. thanks john. all parts will greatly help for our guys project start incubation, graduation:) 发自我的 iPhone > 在 2016年11月25日，22:26，John D. Ament 写道： > > All, > > I'm planning to start committing a number of website changes. These > changes are a summary of my experience bootstrappi

Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-25 Thread John D. Ament
All, I'm planning to start committing a number of website changes. These changes are a summary of my experience bootstrapping podlings, questions I've received (both on and off mailing list) from people trying to do setup, and ways to leverage new infra services. Here's a summary of the current