On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:06 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:57 PM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >... > > > > > Graduation Guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > > > > > Added a link to the Maturity Model as a step to follow for graduation. > > > > > > > There has been past controversy on including that as a graduation step. > I'm > > not clear that was a proper addition. Every discussion has said that it > can > > be used as a *guide*, rather than as a checklist. > > I argued myself into adding this one. While I don't disagree with your > perspective, every time a podling graduates it comes up from board > members. Some Directors != The Board The Board has never required the IPMC to use the APMM as a requirement for graduation. And, I don't recall the IPMC making that requirement either. > The IPMC did not prepare the maturity model, yet somehow it > applies to podlings planning to graduate. > Says who? > I'll point out that the page itself states this is only a guide, not a > On graduation.html, you list "Complete the Apache Project Maturity Model" as one of the preparation steps. That does not sound like a guide. policy. So I don't think we've changed Incubator policy by adding a link. > By listing it like that on the graduation page, it is de facto policy. > I could see it being stated as more of "compare the podlings actions and > behaviors against the maturity model. I could also see it moving into the > "Other Issues" section of the guide instead of the checklist section. > > Thoughts? > Personally, I'd be fine with the link under "Other Issues". Something like "You may find the APMM a useful guide, to look at different factors in your podling's community." (<waves-hand> on phrasing) Cheers, -g
