On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:40:47PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the
contribution
as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and others ca
On 14 Feb 2006, at 01:25, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every
JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated
orchestration
engine exposed via the BPEL specification.
If every JBI implementation has an integ
On 2/13/2006 6:43 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community
In other words, they *don't* want to contribute it to Apache.
They want it to go into a specific and particular niche *at*
Apache. Why the specificity? Why d
I'd like to retract this email. I have doubts on both sides of this
and may try to explain them in a clearer way in another message.
My apologies
david jencks
On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:
After being nervous for quite a while I have come to think that the
sybase bpel en
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Dain Sundstrom wrote:
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> I don't think anyone has said that this isn't a donation to apache.
> Every donation I have seen to apache, has either come to a PMC and is
> sponsored as a IP donation or incubated sub project, or comes
> directly to
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Dain Sundstrom wrote:
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> I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI
> implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration
> engine exposed via the BPEL specification. I am not worried about
> "barriers" to
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:56:49PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
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> >On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> >>...
> >>Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the
> >>ServiceMix community wants to work with
After being nervous for quite a while I have come to think that the
sybase bpel engine should go in as part of servicemix and if further
uses outside servicemix develop we can see about splitting it off.
more comments inline.
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Dain Sundst
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:40:47PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> >I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the
> >contribution
> >as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and others can consume.
> >This would be in accor
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
...
Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the
ServiceMix community wants to work with the code. Any contributor
It should be donate to APACHE. The various people c
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the
contribution
as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and others can consume.
This
would be in accord with Ken and Mads.
I really detest it when people try to flip the burde
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>...
> Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the
> ServiceMix community wants to work with the code. Any contributor
It should be donate to APACHE. The various people can come to it.
To be frank, some communities
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every
> JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration
> engine exposed via the BPEL specification.
If every JBI implementation has an integrated orchestration engine, then we
should factor
was there some crosspost dropped here?
Mads Toftum wrote:
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:19:56PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
If any project inside or outside of Apache wants their own copy
of this code to develop they can always fork the code (as is allowed
by any open source project).
Wh
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:19:56PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>If any project inside or outside of Apache wants their own copy
> of this code to develop they can always fork the code (as is allowed
> by any open source project).
>
Whoa! Are you actively suggesting forks inside the same c
After a quick chat with Dims, I think I need to make a quick
correction to this email
On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every
JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated
orchestration engine expos
I agree with Dain; let's get the code running in ServiceMix, and then
we can break it off when it's ready to stand alone.
Thanks,
Aaron
On 2/13/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI
> implementation that I am aware
I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI
implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration
engine exposed via the BPEL specification. I am not worried about
"barriers" to any committers, "accidental too-tight binding" or
"UNrelated" mail on mai
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After re-reading all the discussion threads and getting
some technology education from people kind enough not to
bash me on the bonce, my strong recommendation is that
the Sybase contribution be made as a new podling proposal
to the incubator.
That's
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