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After re-reading all the discussion threads and getting
some technology education from people kind enough not to
bash me on the bonce, my strong recommendation is that
the Sybase contribution be made as a new podling proposal
to the incubator.

That's after also considering the following:

1. The full expanded name of BPEL is 'Business Process
   Execution Language for Web Services;'
2. We have a TLP devoted to Web Services; and
3. A BPEL engine would be a component useful to
   a broader range of projects that just Geronimo.

It just doesn't make sense to me to embed this into
ServiceMix, which is intended to be embedded into the
Geronimo project.

The issues about who wants to work on it and their
current distribution through ASF projects (namely,
the claim that most of them are already working on
the ServiceMix package) I don't see as being particularly
relevant.  Having the BPEL effort outside of ServiceMix
is a better solution, IMHO, because

1. There's no barrier to ServiceMix people working on
   it;
2. There's less chance of accidental too-tight binding
   to the ServiceMix/Geronimo packages;
3. People working on it will see just messages relating
   to it, and not a bunch of UNrelated mail as well.

That last one is pretty important, I think.  I suspect
that people from outside ServiceMix would be a bit
daunted or put off at having to deal with the flux of
ServiceMix-specific mail in order to see the BPEL-related
messages which might be their sole interest.

So: My recommendation is that a new proposal be drafted,
and Sybase's BPEL contribution be subnmitted to the
incubator as a new standalone podling.
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#ken    P-)}

Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/

"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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