Craig L Russell wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> 6. Cayenne:
>>> Mentors:Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney
>>> Started:March 2006
>>> Incomplete: Nothing
>>>
On Nov 11, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
(On a side note: To be perfectly frank, it makes me cringe
to see this horribly effort-intensive and error-prone process
being used by the ASF. IMHO, all this stuff should be
regularised and normalised and maintained via Web forms. If
On 11/13/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ken wrot:
> Worse, there are some that have made releases while the IP
> issues -- according to the status page -- are still in doubt.
:-( Error in oversight by us, then. What kind(s) of IP issues?
i've only just started to check t
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If we go the first route, then we should treat this list as an
announcements list. Results of votes for releases and graduation are
posted here, and incubator PMC members will be given 72 hours to raise
an issue.
I've been
Garrett Rooney wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > That may be true, but as ASF Members (which most are), I would expect
(and
> > have observed) that they have an overall concern regarding events that
> > effect the ASF.
> Sure, but having an overall concern about events that effect the ASF
> is
Ken wrot:
> I just spent a considerable amount of time going through
> all the podling status pages, and there's a certain..
> lack of uniformity about them. I've attached the results.
Thank you for doing that, Ken. :-)
I've noted the same when doing spot checks in the past, as have (for
examp
On 11/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That may be true, but as ASF Members (which most are), I would expect (and
have observed) that they have an overall concern regarding events that
effect the ASF.
Sure, but having an overall concern about events that effect the ASF
is diff
Daniel Kulp wrote:
> In the last couple months, I've seen MULTIPLE instances where the mentors
> for various projects (according to their proposal and STATUS pages)
> didn't even know they were mentors for the project. I've seen responses
> like "I didn't look at it or vote because I didn't know
Ken wrote:
> Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask.
> What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to
> voting on a release? I for one can't make any
> judgement of its technical worth.
IMO: IP issues and decision making process. And RAT. And, of course, the
Mentor is able to als
Ken asked:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Sam Ruby wrote:
>>> There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> is where incubation happens.
>> That is perjorative. Want to start again?
> What the flying moose ears is wrong with people today?
> Everyone seems to be hyper-sensitive
Sam Ruby wrote:
> I call on those who wish to set the expectation that certain votes are
> to occur on this list to actively foster the notion that people who are
> members of this PMC are expected to actively participate.
> Better?
Yes. :-)
--- Noel
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Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> People like Robert have been complete stud muffins in this regards.
> Big kudos to him and RAT. It's been a major step forward and I'm very
> thankful for his recent efforts.
Robert has been a huge help, and I'd like to encourage the use of RAT
ASF-wide, and at least a
Garrett Rooney wrote:
> I think it's unrealistic to expect that the majority of the members of
> the incubator PMC will be involved in most votes.
The Incubator PMC is the second largest in the ASF, and likely to become the
largest in short order. As long as we have sufficient oversight, I agree
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
6. Cayenne:
Mentors:Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney
Started:March 2006
Incomplete: Nothing
Diverity: Unknown
Releases: 1
All eight
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
6. Cayenne:
Mentors:Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney
Started:March 2006
Incomplete: Nothing
Diverity: Unknown
Releases: 1
All eight of the Cayenne committers are independent of each other
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a persistent delusion that
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens.
>
> That is perjorative. Want to start again?
I just spent a considerable amount of time go
On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If we go the first route, then we should treat this list as an
announcements list. Results of votes for releases and graduation are
posted here, and incubator PMC members will be given 72 hours to raise
an issue.
I've been advising podlings with
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
18. Lucene4c:
Mentors:Erik Hatcher
Started:Unknown
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
Also FWIW, this one has been retired, I just hadn't updated its status
page to note that fact.
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1. Abdera:
Mentors:Garrett Rooney, Paul Querna
Started:July 2006
Incomplete: Identification, Interim Responsibility, Copyright
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
FWIW, when Ken pointed out to me th
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a persistent delusion that
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens.
>
> That is perjorative. Want to start again?
I just spent a considerable amount of time going through
all the podling status pages, and there's a certain
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
There seems to be a persistent delusion that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. The
reality is that all the real incubating happens on the PPMC private
and dev lists.
We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually
Hi,
On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Personally, when I'm voting with my Incubator PMC hat on, I'm voting
based on the fact that the project has followed the ASF guidelines for
how to prepare and vote on a release, and that we've legally speaking
got all our ducks in a row
On 11/10/06, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Friday November 10 2006 11:06 am, Garrett Rooney wrote:
> I mean at the very least I would expect to see +1 votes from the
> project mentors as soon as the vote thread starts on
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], since at least in theory if there was anyth
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask.
What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to
voting on a release? I for one can't make any
judgement of its technical worth..
Th
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask.
What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to
voting on a release? I for one can't make any
judgement of its technical worth..
Personally, when I'm voting with my Incubator PM
On Friday November 10 2006 11:06 am, Garrett Rooney wrote:
> I mean at the very least I would expect to see +1 votes from the
> project mentors as soon as the vote thread starts on
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], since at least in theory if there was anything that
> would keep them from voting +1 they would h
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Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> is where incubation happens.
>
> That is perjorative. Want to start again?
What the flying moose ears is wrong with people today?
Every
On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real
> incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists.
>
> We
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Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask.
What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to
voting on a release? I for one can't make any
judgement of its technical worth..
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Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is where incubation happens.
That is perjorative.
Indeed. It is rather rare to see such from me, wouldn't you say?
Perhaps I feel rather strongly about the current state of this ever
bur
On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I mean at the very least I would expect to see +1 votes from the
project mentors as soon as the vote thread starts on
[EMAIL PROTECTED], since at least in theory if there was anything that
would keep them from voting +1 they would have raised
Sam Ruby wrote:
> There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> is where incubation happens.
That is perjorative. Want to start again?
--- Noel
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On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real
incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists.
We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually is
On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
There seems to be a persistent delusion that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. The
reality is that all the real incubating happens on the PPMC private
and dev lists.
We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actuall
There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real
incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists.
We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually is
happening, or make what we say is happening act
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