Re: [Vote] Abdera v0.2.2

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 2/8/07, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Abdera team is ready to release version v0.2.2. This is a bug fix release that addresses a number of critical issues. There are no new features. We would appreciate if folks could take a look and weigh in. Do you have a list of changes

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

2006-08-09 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. or Qupid Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Dudziak
Sure! But do keep in mind, AsyncWeb is not a servlet container.. but I'm sure there's still bits to be shared, all the work the container does before having to dedicate a thread. exactly, and I'm sure that Greg would be interested, if not in the code, then at least in sharing info about NIO pit

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 7/12/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance out of it. But that's besides the po

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-06-21 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 6/21/06, Mladen Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas Dudziak wrote: > > Anyway, I think it is important that we judge a person by what he does > rather than by what we think we know about him (and a satiric blog is > probably not a good source). You are completely wron

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-06-21 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 6/21/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, you should be on the other side like i was [1] or the tomcat folks were and face it. I higly recommend it. it's depressing and demoralizing to say the least. Sure, it wouldn't be fun if my project were the target of his bile, and I'

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-06-21 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 6/21/06, Mladen Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First of all, I don't care about that proposal, but I'll be strongly against having Hani as an ASF community participant. Just take a look at his (Why I hate Tomcat): http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20060420 That kind of person, has nothing i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dudziak wrote: > > Mhmm, I have one major problem with this (as much as with Cayenne), > > and this is that IMO we (will) have too much ORM engines in Apache > > (with JPA and Cayenne it will be

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/9/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that if we acknowledge that a community as a group of peers, working > towards a common goal, then that would derive umbrellas from projects where > there are distinctions of authority (and therefor work) within that > community's code

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/8/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dudziak wrote: > > > I have one major problem with this (as much as with Cayenne), > > and this is that IMO we (will) have too much ORM engines in > > Apache > > Not necesarily a bad thing. Su

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/8/06, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is duplication really that bad? So long as the communities are vibrant, > why should we care? Also, have you factored in different requirements > and different implementation strategies for the projects in your list of > duplications? I've

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/8/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we might have a better chance at unifying these disparate > code bases if they are all in one place. And I think that DB might be > just the place. > > For the record, the Apache JDO project has no ORM engine. It has the > testing inf

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/8/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ASF projects are supposed to be about a community managing a project. So > the warning signs include large disjoint communities, e.g., Jakarta, the old > XML project (which, itself, was a Jakarta spin-off), etc. > > So, good project boundari

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
Mhmm, I have one major problem with this (as much as with Cayenne), and this is that IMO we (will) have too much ORM engines in Apache (with JPA and Cayenne it will be 6 or 7 ?) with little to no cooperation (esp. on the code level) between the ones already here. So in short, there is no focus and

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/8/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian and Jim are our mentors, so we have support of two Apache > officers. Nobody officially proclaimed himself a Champion though. So > I'm wondering how formal this has to be. How about you ask them if one of them would play that role, tha

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-06 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/6/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Tom, Brian, Jean and the DB PMC! This is very exciting news > to us. > > So should we formally start the incubator acceptance vote on this > list, or is this also something that is done privately between the > Incubator PMC members?

DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-06 Thread Thomas Dudziak
Hi folks, as a follow-up to this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg07567.html the DB PMC has voted on whether it would sponsor Cayenne in incubation, with these results: +1: 5 votes +0: 2 votes -0: 0 votes -1: 0 votes Therefore, the DB PMC agreed to sponsor Ca

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/2/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hola, > > > He was referring to the discussion on the db-general list. > > I've started a vote on the DB PMC list which ends on Sunday, so let's > > postpone this discussion until then. I'll post the results on Monday. > > > > cheers, > > Tom >

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/2/06, Daniel John Debrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > More to the point, I was the one who started the confusion with the > > Incubator PMC vote. As far as I can tell it is resolved now. Everybody > > involved from Cayenne, Incubator, and DB are in favor of DB PMC to be > > the Sponsor

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/2/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More to the point, I was the one who started the confusion with the > Incubator PMC vote. As far as I can tell it is resolved now. > Everybody involved from Cayenne, Incubator, and DB are in favor of DB > PMC to be the Sponsor. Ok, then I'll

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/2/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has the DB project voted to accept the sponsorship? > > If DB is going to be the sponsor, then another vote by the Incubator > PMC is unnecessary. Not AFAIK. I for one would be in favor of having the DB PMC sponsor Cayenne because it fits there (

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/2/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to call a vote on our incubator proposal. There hasn't been > any negative feedback so far, we found mentors, and we are eager to > move ahead with the process. Mhm, why is the Incubator PMC now the sponsor instead of the DB PMC ?

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/1/06, Bill Dudney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we add your name to the proposal then as mentor :-) I'd like to, but judging from the incubator docs (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html), mentors need to be ASF, which I'm not. However, I could join as a

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/1/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can't compare us with Torque, as I am unfamiliar with it. From what I > > know we are closer to OJB and JDO rather than Torque (but I can be > > wrong on that). I don't see a conflict with either of the three. We > > just provide anot

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 2/25/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrus and Bill initially opened discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I > suggested they aim for a top level project status for a few reasons: > > * Cayenne already has an mature ASF-style structure and community > (reportedly =) > * There are ~

Re: Forums/Mailing lists Was: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-31 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/31/05, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From an overall ASF perspective, I'd be more likely to go with the one that > has less overhead. Nabble is already there, doing the forum thing, and > completely managed outside of the ASF. Nobody at the ASF has to do anything > but add new m

Re: Forums/Mailing lists Was: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/30/05, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would Jyve give us that Nabble doesn't do for us already - and without > us having to lift a finger, to boot? My wish would basically be for something that allows a user to use it transparently as a mailing list or forum (whatever the u

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/31/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > > If you, as a user, are looking for a replacement of Sun's > >jar files, you wouldn't look for JaxMe. But you'd > >probably look for a central location of SPEC jar files. > > Why would I want to replace Su

Re: Forums/Mailing lists Was: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/30/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/30/05, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Though that would probably be more of a > > forum-type community rather than a mailinglist-type community. > > A subject for a different thread;

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/30/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reasons for Jakarta would be: > > *) Good reuse of branding. Jakarta is still '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to many out > there and I think we should use this instead of letting it drop. > > *) Helps Jakarta become a Java Federation. Code reflects comm

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/30/05, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the earlier point that there might not be a lot of coding > going on here and that might hinder building any community around it. > However, its another excuse for a bunch of people doing Java stuff to > get together in one place,

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/30/05, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not sure if the JDO spec is being referenced, but that is a spec+TCK project > > only, where a portion of th EG are ASF committers and the spec development > > happens on the ASF infrastructure. > > I think it was just coming out of inc

Re: [RT] Super Simple Site Generation Tool

2005-12-27 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/27/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Err, I would suggest you please go and read the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives. > That's basically a "FAQ" at this point. You may also wish to go and look for > some posts by me over the last few years to the forrest mailing lists, or > to the avalo

Re: [RT] Super Simple Site Generation Tool

2005-12-27 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/27/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Example: last apachecon, Geir was trying to update geronimo.html, it > took 30+ mins before asking for help. It took me 15+ minutes to figure > out that geronimo.html was not being linked from any page in the web > site. So we lost close t

Re: [RT] Super Simple Site Generation Tool

2005-12-27 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 12/27/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It pains me to say this (Forrest is a cool project and I > consider at least some of its active developers and community > members my friends) but we've muddled around long enough. > > I think that, for the incubator website, Apache Forrest > >

Re: Is there a "no graduate" option?

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Dudziak
> > It takes as long as it takes. > > > > The only requirement I have is that there is a continued effort towards > > attracting community. If a project goes completely dormant (i.e. no > > traffic whatsoever), then yes it can fail and should be terminated. > > > > However, placing arbitrary limit