Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > The draft proposal document is available at > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal. Looks great! Also looks like you've got plenty of interest, so that's also great :-) Some random thoughts: * It reads like you have some inter

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > It sounds like I wasn't clear enough. > > The proposal is for the following release artifacts: > > (1) A source-only tar > (2) A source+binary dependencies convenience tar > (3) A binary tar > > This is instead of: > > (1) A source-only tar > (2

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
(dropped infra@) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by > not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset. Me too. > Personally, I have no objection to including mutant jars in a -deps > bi

Re: [VOTE] Release Jena LARQ 1.0.0-incubating

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Paolo Castagna wrote: > here is a vote on a release for Apache Jena LARQ module: > jena-larq-1.0.0-incubating. ... > Proposed files and structure to merge with existing dist/ area: > http://people.apache.org/~castagna/merge-jena-larq-1.0.0-RC-1/ +1 cheers, Leo -

Re: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Jena podling from Apache > Incubator to be a top level project. +1, binding, mentor cheers! - Leo (doing a little celebration dance) --

Re: Multi-licensed dependencies

2012-03-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM, sebb wrote: > On 29 March 2012 18:43, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> On Mar 29, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >>> Personally, I agree with Roy.  Perhaps it might seem a little odd to include >>> the text of e.g. the GPLv2 in one of our LICENSE files (alongsi

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-28 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Leo Simons wrote: >> That said, I'm not aware of us actually having such a release out there? > > Take such fringe projects like Ant, Tomcat, Lucene and Xalan that have > been

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Let's decouple this thread from the specific issue of the ManifoldCF > release. There's a long tradition of Apache releases like the ones > ManifoldCF is producing, so turning this suddenly into a blocker is > IMHO bad business, especially s

Re: Jena mentors (Was: [VOTE] Release Jena Fuseki 0.2.1-incubating)

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Leo Simons wrote: >> Can we get 2 more IPMC votes? > > On a related note, who are currently mentoring Jena? The status page > [1] doesn't show. > > The Jena team page [2] lists y

Re: [VOTE] Release Jena Fuseki 0.2.1-incubating

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Simons
+1 from me. Can we get 2 more IPMC votes? (Checked KEYS, signatures, LICENSEs, NOTICEs, license headers. Built source release, watched maven download the internet. Ran compiled source and binary distribution and played with web interface. Almost remembered how to write SPARQL. Etc. All looks good

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, Jukka this is sounding so timid :). You know, I think I'll break rank and tell you what I really think. You may want to sit down first. You [1] did a *kick ass* job on the last report. Kick. Ass. [2]. Kapow! As well as spending the time to look through and digest it all beforehand on

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Accumulo to TLP

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Billie J Rinaldi wrote: > Please vote on recommending the graduation of > Apache Accumulo with the following resolution to > the ASF Board. +1 from me. Well done, that was pretty fast :) Is it right that your PMC roster doesn't have apache members on it? That's f

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-5)

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > The Jena PPMC has voted to release > >  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating > > and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would review and vote for > this release. +1 from me. cheers, Leo -

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Leo, are you out there? Hmm? Oh, this again... Having company names or trademarks in java namespaces is a pretty stupid convention. It gets us mess like this... There is no policy that incubating java projects must rename to use an org.

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-4)

2012-02-26 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > The Jena PPMC has voted to release > >  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating > > and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would review and vote for > this release. +1 from me. (justification: 1) I do not consider unintuitive file name a

small, reversible steps

2012-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, TL;DR Small steps! Less friction! Lazy consensus! Reversible change! Meritocracy! YAY :-D History "Use small reversible steps" is a powerful idea when evolving things, like when evolving a software architecture. It's an idea that was made popular @ apache by S

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC2)

2012-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
(back from holiday, still catching up, just replied on jena-dev, but for the record since this is a [VOTE]...) > On 8 February 2012 13:03, Andy Seaborne wrote: >> The Jena PPMC has voted to release >> >>  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating >> >> and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would

Re: February report review

2012-02-10 Thread Leo Simons
+1 I'd also suggest that the below is a partial answer to the board's questions to the IPMC on how it would improve oversight so it should probably go in our report. cheers, Leo On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Thu, F

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-10 Thread Leo Simons
+1 - Leo On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > In the interest of moving the current discussion matters forward, please VOTE > on this recommendation to the board by the IPMC. I'll leave the VOTE open > for at least the next 72 hours: > > [ ] +1 Recommend Jukka Zittin

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I just wanted to chime in with a +1 for the general direction. I think there's actually a lot of work to do to iron out how to reorganize things. Before digging in, I suggest we abstract out a little bit to see if we have consensus on the overall goals and desired end state before start

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera >>> wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ate Douma wrote: >

Re: [names] Public Review

2012-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Robert, Thanks for this; it was obviously a lot of work! I like the word picks, flow and style of this guide a lot. There's a lot to read here and some new stuff to learn for me -- I confess I've been ignoring as much about trademarks as I can until a time comes up when I actually have a need

Thoughts about reporting (was: Re: [RT] Community over policy...)

2012-01-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > We may also have semantic gaps.  Leo's [RT] may be presuming that a > podling's "board report"[sic] is merely a bureaucratic requirement. Hmm :-) And so the threads collide... ...I guess I'll allow it. But since we're in my thoughts now, I'll

Re: [RT] Community over policy, and similar thoughts

2012-01-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Don, Thanks for your reply. You are quite right, of course. I hope I am also right at the same time :-). Maybe I can clarify... On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Like Apache, But Sexier...LABS?  I can totally see that.  Anyone want > to start an Apache LABS podling? I

[RT] Community over policy, and similar thoughts

2012-01-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I started writing this e-mail in November or so. My normal approach with stuff like this is wait for a non-contentious quiet period before starting a new thread, to maximize the chance the words will be read for what they say rather than interpreted in the context of some heated debate.

Re: Q. Forks without concensus?; A. anytime / depends / never without agreement

2012-01-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > If there is a community > and that community doesn't want Apache to fork the code that they created, > then we will not fork that code at Apache.  If the original developers of the > code do not want their license changed, then we will not

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-11 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Now the big question: is Etch a candidate for graduating to TLP? > > I think it is, given the facts. It will be a TLP with issues of > activity, but so far user questions, development questions are > answered and releases are cut.

Re: [VOTE] Bloodhound to join the Incubator

2012-01-03 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I felt I had to take a look at this. Like Ralph I was very concerned when I saw Ethan's e-mail. Thanks a lot for writing it Ethan, and thanks for writing it with so much detail. I just read all the e-mail about bloodhound I could find (that I had pretty much ignored when I saw other pe

Re: Forks without concensus?

2012-01-03 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, (Pff. I like replying in-line but this is a hard e-mail to reply to in-line so I will top post.) If I understand your policy question: will apache allow an incubating community to show up and start a project when they are forking another project? I'd say, in general, yes, probably, if a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-21 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I had to think about this a bunch. We don't have anything like this at apache today. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:30, Raju Bitter wrote: >> (..) Adobe Flex is quite different from most Apache projects (...) >> it looks like the outpu

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-2.7.0-incubating (RC1)

2011-12-20 Thread Leo Simons
*bump*. We have 2 +1s from mentors already, so at a minimum we need just one more binding vote to do this release. Anyone have time to do the review? thanks! Leo On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > Please vote on releasing the following as >  Apache Jena version 2.7.0-incub

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-20 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > I would like to propose Flex to be an Apache Incubator project. > > Here's a link to the proposal: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal Pasted inline: = Apache Flex Proposal = == Abstract == Apache Flex is an application framework

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Leo Simons
Yupyup. I thought I'd add a little background rant here, that I wrote for the jena podling a bit ago. Purely optional reading but maybe illuminating for some. cheerio, - Leo On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Benson Margulies

[DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > +1 binding.  Given the sheer number of committers involved in this podling > there will be some work to do trying to gel a coherent development community > out of the group.  While I am optimistic, I am reminded of Roy's cautions > a

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. +1 from me (binding). cheers, Leo

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Leo Simons
+1! cheers, Leo On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com wrote: > As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few > days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an > Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text > of the

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Leo Simons
+1 and welcome on board. cheers, Leo On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Jonathan Hsieh wrote: > [  ] +1 Accept Flume for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to Flume incubation > [  ]  -1 Reject Flume for incubation ... > = Flume - A Distributed Log Collection System = > > == Abstract == > > Flume is

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > Since this is a large download, I wonder whether the quoted numbers are > impacted at all by timeouts, abandoned downloads attempts, etc.  In other > words, is it counting the HTTP GET's?  Or the successful downloads?  That > may influence the load by quit

OOo mirroring (was: Re: A little OOo history)

2011-06-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> 30 downloads per day or per month? >> >> 52TB per month is still a lot... > > per day. > Look at this chart: > http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html TL;DR: these bandwidth numbers are not actually that scary or imp

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> Just remember, we haven't yet even voted on whether or not to accept >> the podling. >> >> These are decisions the podling should be making. > > Are you ready to call for a vote? :) Whoah! Please don't call for a vote -- I would much rather

Re: Setting up the Jena podling

2010-12-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I'm a bit up to my eyes in OpenNLP. Can one of you get the initial > status page going? On it. - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: I think individuals need SGAs

2010-12-02 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I definitely understand the reasoning. Hmm. I think the way to look at it is, "it depends, but do whatever is needed to allow apache liberal rights to sublicense all the IP to it's users". The second way to look at it is that logic and legal stuff are not always as closely connected a

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-28 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: > I think of a CCLA as a combination of an SGA to cover the software grant > plus an acknowledgement that people in the company are going to work on > Apache projects, whether on their own time or company time. > > So, if a CCLA i

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-21 Thread Leo Simons
+1 obviously! - Leo On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > +1 binding > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> Lacking a lot of binding votes... >> >> +1 binding >> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >>> Please vote on the acceptan

Re: [PROPOSAL] Whirr Project

2010-04-22 Thread Leo Simons
On 4/15/10 10:42 PM, Tom White wrote: I would like to propose Whirr as an incubator proposal. Whirr will be a set of libraries for running cloud services, such as Hadoop or Cassandra. The initial code (for Hadoop) is hosted as a Hadoop contrib module, but I believe it would flourish as its own p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Zeta Components - Further comments?

2010-04-22 Thread Leo Simons
On 4/22/10 10:21 AM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: I updated the proposal to reflect the objections regarding the infrastructure. Our questions regarding the import of our SVN history has been cleared. Are there further comments, suggestions, objections? Very nicely written proposal, well done! Looks

Re: [VOTE] Subversion podling for graduation

2010-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
+1 - Leo On 2/12/10 4:08 AM, Greg Stein wrote: Hello all, I started a discussion thread a week-ish ago to seek out issues for Subversion's graduation. The couple bits that were raised[1] have been handled, I believe. So with that said, I am unaware of any potential showstoppers, and would like

Re: Discussion: graduating Subversion

2010-01-26 Thread Leo Simons
On 1/26/10 6:00 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Greg Stein wrote: Before calling for a vote to graduate Subversion, I figured it prudent to have a discussion first. I believe Subversion is quite ready (and has been, but the holidays and whatnot kept me from sending t

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Shindig as an Apache Top Level Project

2010-01-14 Thread Leo Simons
On 1/14/10 11:41 AM, Vincent Siveton wrote: I would like to start an official vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Shindig as a Top Level Project to the Board. +1! - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@inc

The incubator is here to help projects

2009-12-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, The incubator is here to help. It is about education. It is about teaching podlings how to work here at apache, about showing people what to be aware of. The incubator is *not* here to assess or judge or dictate or lecture or draft policy or go on long rants about The One True Way

Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)

2009-12-11 Thread Leo Simons
Heya OpenCMIS folks, Since it looks like you aren't currently supported by a champion or mentor [1], I thought I'd fill in a small part and inject some warm fuzzies... *Thanks* for open sourcing your project and *thanks* for considering doing it at apache. Its always a lot of effort to go th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Leo Simons
On 12/11/09 1:14 AM, Donald Woods wrote: I would like to present an incubator proposal for a new Validation podling, which would be a JSR-303 Bean Validation follow-on to the existing Apache Commons Validation 1.x project, but based on a new incoming codebase with a software grant from Agimatec G

Re: How documentation != code, and how to "do" policy (was: Re: Publishing api docs for Subversion)

2009-12-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > this is also the case for Nightly Builds, accessible by the > public; Legally they are "publishing to the public" (i.e. opposite of > 'for private use') and bound by licenses and agreements. > And finally, from Copyright law perspective, you

Re: OSS Java AAC Decoder?

2009-12-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > Todd Volkert wrote: >> Does anyone on this list know of an existing open source pure-Java Advanced >> Audio Coding (AAC) library?  If not, are there any audiophiles on this list >> that would be interested in incubating such a project with me?

How documentation != code, and how to "do" policy (was: Re: Publishing api docs for Subversion)

2009-12-05 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I wasn't going to say anything but since this is dragging on... On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Doug Cutting wrote: > Would we permit someone to mirror other files from trunk on the website? Yes, definitely. Most projects publish their websites by pushing files into SVN. Many projects

Re: Question for mentors: crediting the original project?

2009-12-01 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > 2009/12/1 Scott Wilson : >> "On http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/ is it possible to add somewhere that >> the original development was funded by the European Commission through the >> TENCompetence Project?" > > I see no reason why this shou

Re: [VOTE] release Apache VCL 2.1

2009-11-24 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Josh Thompson wrote: > The Apache VCL community voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache > VCL 2.1.  We would like to request the endorsement of the Incubator PMC to > publish this release. > > The release artifact, sums, and GPG signature can b

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Justin Erenkrantz > wrote: > >> As Hyrum suggests, we can use org.apache.subversion.* if we want to >> create a new (better) Java interface within our versioning rules - but >> that isn't necessary nor shou

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-11-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > The Apache Pivot community feels that it is ready to graduate into the > "Apache Pivot" top-level project. +1 from me! cheers, Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubs

Re: [Discussion] Graduation of Pivot Podling

2009-11-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I've checked in on Pivot now and again and reviewing recent activities, I think its definitely ready to leave the nest! I will be happy to vote +1 when it comes to a vote. cheers, Leo On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: > The feeling among the members of the Pivot pod

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: > > * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org > * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/ > > We are hoping to minimize over

Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: >> >> As Martijn alluded to, I think we'd need some more context as to why and >> how they use RTC. >> > Yes, sorry for the lack of details. The context is Cassandra and they're > doing RTC

Re: Insanity (of the release process)

2009-11-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr. > wrote: >> Leo Simons wrote: >>> >>> Here's what I understand: >>> >>> 1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs >&

Re: Side Discussion; Mentorship [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: >> >> Sponsors >>  * Champion: Greg Stein > > Cool > >>  * Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel >> Rall > > Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project leads').

Re: Insanity (of the release process)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:16, Leo Simons wrote: >>... >> Not merit, just "binding vote". I agree that it sucks, but it is not >> something where the incubator has "gone awry", it has _always_ been &g

Re: Insanity (of the release process)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Leo Simons wrote: >> Also, to be clear, as an IPMC member I spend quite a bit of time with >> projects where I am not a mentor, casting (binding) votes on things >> like their release

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and > necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.  The IPMC as a > whole has only two roles: approving a proposal and recommending > graduation Also, to be clear, as an

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: > > Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated. > > In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink > community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just need one > more +1 to release as the vote h

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings > how to work here at Apache. So what are you teaching with e-mails like this, Greg? When you disagree with someone, SHOUT a bit and write a long rant? Or perhaps that usin

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Leo Simons wrote: >> PS: +1 to start incubation obviously. The record is 2 weeks set for >> MerlinDeveloper back in 2003...you have 9 days left to try and beat it Hey, you snipped the smile

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
+1 from me! cheers, Leo On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas Gallardo wrote: > The Wink community has voted on and approved the release > of Wink 1.0 (RC-5).  We would now like to request the > approval of the Incubator PMC for this release. > > Details of the Wink community vote can be fou

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.2

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
+1, nice work folks! cheers, Leo On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Eric Evans wrote: > > The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache > Cassandra 0.4.2. We would now like to request the approval of the > Incubator PMC for this release. > > Cassandra is a massively scalable,

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 14:44, Greg Stein wrote: >> All of the existing tags/branches of svn use a tweaked Apache Software >> License, v1.1, and generally have a file header claims a copyright by >> CollabNet. >> >> trunk is licensed under Apache

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bryant Luk wrote: > Thanks for the links.  One general comment I have is that I understand > this is part of the incubation process (and no offense intended to Leo > since obviously taking energy and time for this) but if I can't look > and see if other Apache proj

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Bryant Luk wrote: >> The source release has a LICENSE and a NOTICE file that indicates it >> contains a bunch of stuff it does not actually contain. AFAICS it >> should simply have a LICENSE that is just the Apache License and a >> NOTICE file that has just our sta

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
Yo. Looking pretty cool! Sorry, but, few tidbits inline... On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: > The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 1.0. We > would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this > release. > > Podling vote t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Libcloud Project

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Paul Querna wrote: > I would like to propose incubating the existing Libcloud project to join the > ASF Cool! I will try to make the time to help out a little; I'm interested in this space :) cheers, Leo

Re: [VOTE] Accept Aries proposal for incubation

2009-09-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: After much thought, I am voting -1 for 1 main reason. 1:

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc2

2009-09-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Eric Evans wrote: >> I'm curious though, when you say "...which makes me whinge just enough >> to not give a +1", is that hypothetical, or is there feedback that we >>

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc2

2009-09-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Eric Evans wrote: > I'm curious though, when you say "...which makes me whinge just enough > to not give a +1", is that hypothetical, or is there feedback that we > could incorporate so that you would actually vote for our release? Nah, it means just fix your open

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc2

2009-09-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Eric Evans wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 08:52 +0100, sebb wrote: >> >> The source archive contains 3 files that are not in SVN: >> >> Cli.tokens >> CliLexer.java >> CliParser.java >> >> These are generated files. >> >> Either store the files in SVN and release th

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.5-incubating (rc5)

2009-09-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Francis De Brabandere wrote: > I added myself a while ago to the keys in our > repo/trunk/tools/KEYS.txt. Should we move that file to trunk and > publish it in the dist? I would say so. The advantage of having the KEYS file also in the /dist/ is that it'll be clos

Re: Review of cassandra NOTICE and LICENSE requested.

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebb wrote: > On 09/09/2009, Leo Simons wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:28 PM, sebb wrote: >> > Does the release actually *include* JUnit, or is that only used for >> > testing? >> > If so, then it should not be the i

Re: minimal NOTICE files (was: Re: Review of cassandra...)

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > (dropped cassandra-dev) > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebb wrote: >> On 09/09/2009, Leo Simons wrote: >>> Even if it is not in the release I believe there is nothing wrong with >>>  putting an acknowledg

minimal NOTICE files (was: Re: Review of cassandra...)

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
(dropped cassandra-dev) On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebb wrote: > On 09/09/2009, Leo Simons wrote: >> Even if it is not in the release I believe there is nothing wrong with >>  putting an acknowledgment in the NOTICE file. (putting terms in the >>  LICENSE file tha

Re: Review of cassandra NOTICE and LICENSE requested.

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:28 PM, sebb wrote: > On 08/09/2009, Eric Evans wrote: ... > Does the release actually *include* JUnit, or is that only used for testing? > If so, then it should not be the in the NOTICE file, nor in the binary > release. Even if it is not in the release I believe there

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.1-BETA2

2009-09-08 Thread Leo Simons
G-856 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-856>] - >   Defaults to cont...@type="html" when omitted >   - [SHINDIG-857 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-857>] - >   public key id param key should be xoauth_public_key >   - [SHINDIG-1107 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1107>] - >   Clean up shindig dependencies >   - [SHINDIG-1135 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1135>] - >   Bump ehcache to 1.6.1 > -- cheers, Leo Simons -- http://lsimons.wordpress.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: >> >  > The LICENSE file does not contain the full CCA LICENSE for the Silk >> >  > icons; see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode for >> >  > the full text. >> > >> > Good to know - I'll update it on the trunk.  Given that we got

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > We have in this proposal a lot of people who are not felix committers and > who are not even apache committers at all. > > They want to work on some code and create a community around it.  The way > the ASF works means that the incubator is t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Hughes wrote: > We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal. * Any chance of one or two of the other ASF members involved also stepping up as a mentor? * Projects that consist of groups of components often have some problems maintaining sufficien

Re: incorrect terminology: lead developers

2009-08-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Greg Brown wrote: > If I can attempt to summarize, there is a difference between the *concept* > of a leader and the *title* of a leader here at ASF (please correct me if I > am wrong). Correct! You missed the rationale in the summary, though :-) * There is a goal

Re: XAP?

2009-08-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > So who's going to do what about XAP? > > I tried understanding the related threads, but I couldn't figure out > why it's so complicated. If it were up to me, I'd simply follow [1]. > In fact, unless someone takes some action on XAP by the end

Making some thrift releases

2009-08-04 Thread Leo Simons
Hey thrift folks, Someone just pointed out http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/download/ I'm afraid that's not exactly what we'd like to see. Can you please spend some time reviewing the pages at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html ? It would be really good if y'al

Re: [Proposal][Vote] Traffic Server

2009-07-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Leif Hedstrom wrote: > As you know, we've been preparing our proposal to submit Traffic Server to > the Incubator for a few weeks now. With the help from our champion (thanks > Doug!), and the entire Incubator community, it's my pleasure to submit a > request for Tr

Re: Community readiness-when does it show?

2009-06-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > If a community meets all the criteria, but hasn't discovered a new > committer (or two) by itself, is the community ready for graduation? Potentially, yes. Likely, no :-) > If not, how can we—mentors— nudge the community to focus on thi

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.2 RC3

2009-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: > The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache > Pivot 1.2 Release Candidate 3. We would now like to request the permission > of the Incubator PMC to publish the artifacts on the Pivot download page. ... > http://peop

Re: [Proposal] Traffic Server

2009-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
Hi, > We already got two new mentors signed up (thanks to your posts to the httpd > devel list I think). So, we're up to three now, how many do we need to be > considered for a vote? 3 mentors is usually considered enough :) > Is there anything else missing? Nope, it looks like you have your du

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)

2009-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Ian Boston wrote: > Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache > Shindig version 1.0-incubating. ... > Proposed release: > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-002//org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ +1 (bi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate Apache Sling as Top Level Project

2009-05-25 Thread Leo Simons
On May 25, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote: The Sling podling has voted on asking the Incubator PMC to support its graduation as a top level project. Enthousiastically and confidently +1. All the best! - Leo smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-25 Thread Leo Simons
On May 23, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: Is it that we have identified a new issue that actually affects _all_ Maven based releases, not just Shindig? No not necessarily. You can use maven to produce binary releases that have all the required legal details inside of them; it just isn'

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