On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Michael MacFadden
wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Thanks for your comments. Can you clarify for us the PPMC comment. I think we
> are a bit confused between the concepts of a top level project PMC, the
> incubator IPMC, the PPMC you have mentioned, and piddling mentors. I don'
Committer = can change the code
PMC = project management committee
iPMC = incubator project management committee
PPMC = podlings project management committee
Only PMC members votes are binding. In the case of a podling, only
incubator PMC votes are binding. However, as you can consider the PPMC
as
Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> That's my bad. Having not published the site using the CMS since we
> switched over, I knew I had to read the docs again but hadn't. I
> fully intended to though.
Not only you. It is a common holdup.
There are various routes for editing, as explain
Hi David,
That's my bad. Having not published the site using the CMS since we
switched over, I knew I had to read the docs again but hadn't. I
fully intended to though.
Anyways, sorry.
Cheers,
Chris
++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior
The problem seems to be getting worse. Some people make
source changes to docs, but then do not follow through
to publish those changes via the CMS. Then other changes
bank up behind the logjam.
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html
-David
--
Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> Sorry I missed this.
>
> Real quick CC to general@i.a.o. I'm not an expert in the Clutch.
> IPMC peeps that know the clutch, Knox has a release in the dist
> area:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/knox/
>
>
> (^^ for example the
On 21 June 2013 00:59, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> Hi Ali,
>
> Comments inline.
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 05:24 PM, Ali Lown wrote:
>
>> The result from the wave-dev vote can be found at:
>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/201306.mbox/%3CCABRGrVfPOwN3E8N-uScruYbxdezpfZz
Just one quick question. I notice that you include the bouncy-castle jar in the
distribution.
Have you looked into the need to file an ECCN for crypto?
Regards,
Craig
On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Ali Lown wrote:
>> The Wave community ha
Joe,
Thanks for your comments. Can you clarify for us the PPMC comment. I think we
are a bit confused between the concepts of a top level project PMC, the
incubator IPMC, the PPMC you have mentioned, and piddling mentors. I don't
think we had ever discussed nominating a PPMC assuming that first
I should have added: please do address the problems here and re-roll and
I will be sure to examine that release in a timely fashion. Don't let a
-1 discourage you, as most incubating projects have to go through a
learning curve.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 06:59 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> Hi Ali,
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Ali Lown wrote:
> The Wave community has voted on and approved the proposal to release
> Apache Wave 0.4 (incubating) based on RC3.
>
> This will be the initial incubator release for Wave.
>
> The proposal for release can be found at:
> https://mail-archives.apache
Hi Ali,
Comments inline.
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 05:24 PM, Ali Lown wrote:
> The result from the wave-dev vote can be found at:
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/201306.mbox/%3CCABRGrVfPOwN3E8N-uScruYbxdezpfZzAJHMp8dN%2BUfpF6s%2BDGw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
I find thi
To distinguish between these two documents, they have different
flavours. One sets the expectations of podlings members, the other tells
mentors what is expected of them. This latter one should not be
forgotten. It is easy to sign up as a mentor, but not so easy to follow
through.
Having something
I have written up the suggestions so far into a wiki page
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhatToExpect
The content is pretty much what has been included in this thread
reorganized with a few minor grammar tweaks here and there.
If people like this notion feel free to edit the page or continue
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rob Vesse wrote:
> Could someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki
>
> My username is RobVesse
Done.
Marvin Humphrey
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My username is RobVesse
Thanks,
Rob
11. In certain circumstances, there are specific people charged with
certain responsibilities. Over time you can expect to learn who they
are, and where they hang out. Your mentor should be able to guide you
while you do learn. If, for whatever reason, they are unable or
unwilling to, you can ask o
Hey Guys,
Sorry I missed this.
Real quick CC to general@i.a.o. I'm not an expert in the Clutch.
IPMC peeps that know the clutch, Knox has a release in the dist
area:
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/knox/
(^^ for example the 0.2.0 release)
Can someone give us some insight as to
The vote to release mesos-0.12.0-incubating has passed with 3 IPMC binding
+1s and 5 non-binding +1s.
IPMC Binding Votes:
Alex Karasulu
Chris Mattman
Tom White
Non-Binding Votes:
Vinod Kone
Deepal Jayasinghe
Brenden Matthews
Yan Xu
Andy Konwinski
Thanks all!
-- Forwarded message -
+1
Having also come to Apache by joining a now graduated podling (Apache
Jena) I like the idea of a "What to expect" document and agree with pretty
much everything that you lay out here. I think people outside of Apache
often don't appreciate how a volunteer organization operates and many of
your
FWIW, my concerns about an Ombudsman are:
1) I had no idea what an Ombudsman was. I'd heard of it, but never had to
work with one before. I had to go look it up. If I had a complaint, I'm
not sure I would know to look up that word to find the email address to
complain to.
2) If you create a rol
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> 2) Apache has been around long enough and is large enough to have its own
> culture, with its own societal rules and tribal history. Lots of it is
> written down, but it is hard to find.
I never thought of that...Apache policy is the writt
Hi, As a newbie, I've generally quietly watched from the sidelines, but
now I'm jumping in.
+1 about "expectations" vs "rights". In fact, it occurred to me that a
booklet or pamphlet more like the "What to expect whenŠ" book would be
better. IMO, correctly set expectations make for happier peop
First, a disclaimer. This is just my personal take on things and no one
else on the Apache Flex PMC was involved in writing this.
As the PMC chair of a relatively recently graduated podling, I would like
to suggest that if you choose to implement "exit interviews" they should
probably be optional
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> +10.99
+Inf
Good grief, could there be a better candidate, in terms of either substance or
symbolism?
> (the .9 is for Marvins amusement ;-)
"It worked!"
Marvin Humphrey
---
Hi Ali,
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Ali Lown wrote:
> The voting period has now passed, and we have received no votes from
> anyone
> here :(
Sorry, folks are too busy debating the problems of the Incubator to take
time to review Incubator releases. ;-)
I'll try to take a look tonight a
Thanks Ross for seeing this through.
Azeez
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
>
> Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1]
> (note some actions require the support of your mentors).
>
> There are no -1 vo
Ross - huge thanks. Great champion-ing.
Paul
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> Resending with [RESULT] tag as (reasonably) requested off list - sorry
>
>
> On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
> > This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
> >
> > Podling committe
Very cool :-). Thanks Ross and everyone!
Sanjiva.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Resending with [RESULT] tag as (reasonably) requested off list - sorry
>
>
> On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
> > This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
> >
> > Podling comm
+10.99
(the .9 is for Marvins amusement ;-)
Ross
On 20 June 2013 14:00, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> If the idea of the 'Ombudsman' is sort of like an 'elder
> Statesman' role as well, then I may be interested...
>
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>
>
If the idea of the 'Ombudsman' is sort of like an 'elder
Statesman' role as well, then I may be interested...
On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> I would p
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> ...I think that it would be a great idea to have an ASF wide ombudsman
> instead...
We don't have that, and I don't think we need it - people should feel
free to contact people that they trust (officers, board members, ASF
members) privately
Resending with [RESULT] tag as (reasonably) requested off list - sorry
On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler wrote:
> This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
>
> Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1]
> (note some actions require the support of your mentors).
>
Woot. Thanks Ross!
On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler wrote:
> This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
>
> Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1]
> (note some actions require the support of your mentors).
>
> There are no -1 votes and plenty of both binding an
This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1]
(note some actions require the support of your mentors).
There are no -1 votes and plenty of both binding and non-binding +1 votes.
It is not my intention to tally the votes. I realise
Hi Ali,
unfortunately i have not seen the IPMC reviewing the release within
the three days voting period.
Please leave the vote open and write a reminder from time to time.
here is some more information on the voting status:
http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html
Cheers
On Wed, Ju
Anomnity of the individual not the project. I can say "my mentor was
crap" without stating my name - I could be any one of the PPMC.
Upayavira
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:18:16AM +0100, Upayavira wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, a
Thanks Chris! We'll get started on all the required steps.
Matei
On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:35 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> This VOTE has passed with the following tallies:
>
> +1
> Chris Mattmann*
> Konstantin Boudnik
> Henry Saputra*
> Reynold Xin
> Pei Chen
> Roman Sha
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:18:16AM +0100, Upayavira wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Alan Cabrera
> > wrote:
> > > Solution: require all podlings to submit anonymous exit interviews as part
> > > of the graduation require
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>
> > I would prefer to use well known names for well known roles. Ombudsman is
> > a roll that's been around for quite a while and the person filling that
> > role for the ASF wil
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 08:49:55PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:49:51PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> >> +Once the vote has been called the proposal should be considered fixed.
> >> + No further changes
The voting period has now passed, and we have received no votes from anyone
here :(
Could some IPMC please look at this (we need at least 2 more +1)? Being an
initial release, it is very important for it to be 'accepted', since it
will dictate how Wave's releases look in the future.
Thanks,
Ali
O
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Alan Cabrera
> wrote:
> > Solution: require all podlings to submit anonymous exit interviews as part
> > of the graduation requirements. These exit interviews will be suitably
> > scrubbed and organized
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