If the idea of the 'Ombudsman' is sort of like an 'elder
Statesman' role as well, then I may be interested...

On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Daniel Shahaf <danie...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>> 
>>> I would prefer to use well known names for well known roles.  Ombudsman is 
>>> a roll that's been around for quite a while and the person filling that 
>>> role for the ASF will be doing roughly the same thing as ombudsman in other 
>>> organizations.
>>> 
>>> With that said, I will agree that if everything is running fine, the 
>>> ombudsman is pretty much watching Oprah re-runs.  Hopefully we will all 
>>> work hard so this person will have the time to catch up.  ;)
>>> 
>>> However, I will point out that my proposal has come about from concrete 
>>> personal experience and the experiences that others have personally related 
>>> to me.  I will also point out that it seems to me that those who are 
>>> opposed or, at best, lukewarm to the idea are well established and well 
>>> connected individuals in the ASF sphere.
>> 
>> +1.
>> 
>> How should we "bless" our Ombudsmen? On private@? Do we have more than one?
>> If so what is the limit?
> 
> I don't think you have that problem yet -- I don't see a mob banging on the
> doors of this thread crying, "Me! Me!".
> 
> Personally I suggest KISS.  Set up the alias, have it target 2 people,
> advertise it on the web site, move on.  This email took me 200% as long to 
> type
> than it would have taken me to set up the actual alias...
> 
> ssh -t hermes.apache.org sudo -u apmail tee 
> \~apmail/.qmail-incubator-ombudsm\{a,e\}n <<< 
> $'w...@apache.org\ndanie...@apache.org\n'
> 
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