Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Other than the typo in the subject line of this email?
:-) classic.
That actually might happen a bit. Oh well, this email thread
associates them.
Robert, thanks for your efforts. The new name is excellent.
-David
> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 20:0
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> +1
Excessive snippage violation.
> Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
> clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clear and public
> punishment,
On 15 January 2012 20:55, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> +1
>
> Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
> clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clear and public
> punishment, both for Mentors and for the project.
Other than the typo in the subject line of this email?
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 20:00:26 +:
> I don't speak welsh or german (beyond a few words), so I relied on
> automated translations. Please review and jump in with comments if you
> find any mistakes.
>
> Robert
Hi...
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's the status of this effort?
>
> I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
> a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
> my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Jakob Homan wrote:
>> What are the mechanics for having two NOTICE/LICENSE
>> files for one release?
>
> If you're using Maven and the Apache parent POM, you can put any extra
> LICENSE and NOTICE c
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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The current status task related to trademarks doesn't play well with
the new trademark rules, and doesn't describe in detail how to go
about a search
I've done a couple of searches[2] and [3], plus an early draft of a guide [1]
I'd be great if people could take a look and dive in with improvement
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> +1
Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clear and public
punishment, both for Mentors and for the project.
IMO termination should be used only as a sanction for podlings w
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Christian Grobmeier commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Creadu
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:12:47PM +0100, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> In the recent years we've spent a lot of time
> focusing on procedural and legal details, while community building and
> social dynamics haven't gotten much attention. Perhaps we should start
> looking at how to build up that aspect o
I don't speak welsh or german (beyond a few words), so I relied on
automated translations. Please review and jump in with comments if you
find any mistakes.
Robert
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented)
(JIRA) wrote:
>
> [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/P
+1
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> +1
>
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote:
>
>> I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing
>> a podling by insisting that they take their work
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Evidence Of Use On World Wide Web:
Searched for "cread
+1
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote:
> I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing
> a podling by insisting that they take their work to say github
> instead. They probably can keep the name since we h
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Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Searched for "creadur" using
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Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Evidence Of Open Source Adoption:
Searched for "creadu
I'd like to suggest that whatever rules we come
up with are derived from actual cases we've seen
over our time here. Robert is not alone by any
stretch, he's just clueful enough to be willing
to be open and honestabout it.
I'd have no problems supporting a podling whose
mentors review their repo
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joe Schaefer
> wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >
> >> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday, January
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:48:02 -0800:
> > Why do we need these obscure notions to characterize a failed incubation
> > effort? Can't we be adults and say it simply didn't work out, no
> > harm no foul, best of luck in yo
Establish Whether "Apache Creadur" would be a Suitable Name
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Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4
Project: Podling Suitable Names Search
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
> a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
> me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
> in the position of judging whether or not a podling is ac
I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing
a podling by insisting that they take their work to say github
instead. They probably can keep the name since we have no interest
in it ourselves.
We maintain an open-door policy for new projects, and I think that
is a good thing that
Hi Robert...
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> I'll back up what Ant said - Robert and Ant have shown heroic
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, ant elder wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> > Now to go back and answer Ant's question directly,
>
> Sam, what you replied doesn't really answer my question directly. The
> issue with the long term poddlings which I know about is not t
You didn't annoy me Benson, I think you're spot on, +1.
Cheers,
Chris
On Jan 15, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> I would appreciate it if the participants in this discussion would be
> really clear about their views about several different podling
> profiles.
>
> a: A reasonably div
I would appreciate it if the participants in this discussion would be
really clear about their views about several different podling
profiles.
a: A reasonably diverse group of 5-7 people start a podling. A year
later, they've made a release or two, but no one new has turned up.
Mentors attest to g
I think the email trail will be fairly clear one way
or the other, and hence still oppose adding more labels
to the situation.
- Original Message -
> From: Daniel Shahaf
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Parking Project
Relevant difference: when we reject a project we do that on public
lists, when you apply to a university the fact you did so is private.
Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 09:03:45 -0800:
> I don't see why. When you apply to a university you either
> receive an acceptance letter or a lett
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Last time I looked, mentors were delegated this duty by the IPMC.
> If not, let's go ahead and do that just to add clarity.
It's indeed pretty clearly documented already:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.
True, but decisions can't be delegated to individuals,
only tasks. Robert conveniently blurs the two.
- Original Message -
> From: Christian Grobmeier
> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS
Not everything that happens at the ASF revolves
around mistaken impressions about Jakarta's breakup,
sorry.
- Original Message -
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
>> Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
>>
>> O
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
>> Small but o
- Original Message -
> From: ant elder
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
> Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Schaef
- Original Message -
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
> Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
> a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
> me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
> in the position of judging whether or not a podling is ac
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
>> Small but o
- Original Message -
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
> Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM
I don't see why. When you apply to a university you either
receive an acceptance letter or a letter of regret; we don't
have to make any other distinctions regarding our internal
reasons either. Simply part ways amicably and help them
thru the exit door, no matter if they were chronic policy
viol
Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:48:02 -0800:
> Why do we need these obscure notions to characterize a failed incubation
> effort? Can't we be adults and say it simply didn't work out, no
> harm no foul, best of luck in your future endeavors elsewhere?
> I sure hope we aren't going to
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Now to go back and answer Ant's question directly,
Sam, what you replied doesn't really answer my question directly. The
issue with the long term poddlings which I know about is not that
their reports are not read, they are in fact read so somet
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
> a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
> me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
> in the position of judging whether or not a podling is ac
It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
in the position of judging whether or not a podling is actually
making progress or not. If mentors don't do that, who
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>> You say it isn't active enough for a TLP. My question is what constitutes
>> active enough?
>
> Basically one that meets the criteria described in [1]. My subjective
> int
Thank you for reviewing the release candidate
I'm not sure what the issue with the source distribution is: the
module web.resources.yui mentions the yahoo copyright in the notice
file and the bsd license is included.
I guess this should also be the case for the launchers and thus the
binary distr
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith wrote:
>> I'll back up what Ant said - Robert and Ant have shown heroic patience as
>> mentors on this project. The situation will resolve itself one way or the
>> other soon.
>
> If the ques
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, sebb wrote:
>> On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
>> incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
>
> We're still working on that, but I suppose we'll be lea
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Jukka Zitting
> wrote:
>> ...As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
>> community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
>> some discussion they recently v
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, ant elder wrote:
>> I accept there might be some poddlings where the mentors are AWOL but
>> most of the ones I know of the mentors are actually paying attention
>> but there is only so much mentors
On 15 January 2012 12:12, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, ant elder wrote:
>> I accept there might be some poddlings where the mentors are AWOL but
>> most of the ones I know of the mentors are actually paying attention
>> but there is only so much mentors can do
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, ant elder wrote:
> I accept there might be some poddlings where the mentors are AWOL but
> most of the ones I know of the mentors are actually paying attention
> but there is only so much mentors can do if the poddling isn't very
> active.
Right, a mentor th
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Sam,
>>
>>> My personal perspective is that incubation shouldn't generally take more
>>> than a year.
>>
>> The problem is with small communities. What do you suggest with projects
>>
+1 (binding)
Everything looks fine and the build worked for me. However, I do find it odd
that the online documentation references a binary distribution yet none is
present on the web site below.
On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Eric Yang wrote:
> This is a reminder to vote Chukwa 0.5.0 release can
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