Re: [PROPOSAL] InfoEng -- http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/InfoEngProposal

2006-08-24 Thread J. Patrick Bedell
Hi Ian, Thanks for your reply. In brief, the answer to your final question is that information currency is a representation of property rights to the underlying information. However, information currency is not designed to restrict the distribution of the underlying information in any way - it

Re: -1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Upayavira wrote: > Justin Erenkrantz wrote: >> FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no >> requirement that you provide a reason for voting against it - just >> like you don't have to provide a reason why you're voting for it. If >> you want to provide a reason, great, bu

Re: [PROPOSAL] InfoEng -- http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/InfoEngProposal

2006-08-24 Thread Ian Holsman
Hi. on the initial read, I wasn't exactly sure what it was this service was doing. although I think I know what a financial instrument is, I've usually only seen them applied to their regular things.. stocks, bonds, futures, options, etc... not information. so I was a bit confused.. who

Re: -1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling >> [ ] 0 Don't care >> [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: > > FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no > requirement that you pr

documentation

2006-08-24 Thread Susanne Lefvert
Hi there, I've been looking at the apache ftp server as a solution for one of my projects. It looks really promising but I would like to get my hands on more documentation. Do you know if there's more info out there apart from http://incubator.apache.org/ftpserver/. I've googled without

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fluoride

2006-08-24 Thread Ian Holsman
this is a dupe. I sent it from my apache.org address initially which wasn't subscribed. I did forget to mention the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/ incubator/FluorideProposal in the original too. On 24/08/2006, at 6:59 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: Fluoride, a Feed Server Proposal 0. Rationale

[PROPOSAL] Fluoride

2006-08-24 Thread Ian Holsman
Fluoride, a Feed Server Proposal 0. Rationale a RSS/Atom feed by default is hard to track. The aim of this proposal is to create a server which can track statistics on who is reading your feeds, and what they are reading. 0.1 Criteria Meritocracy: Apache was chosen for an incubator for the

[PROPOSAL] Fluoride

2006-08-24 Thread Ian Holsman
Fluoride, a Feed Server Proposal 0. Rationale a RSS/Atom feed by default is hard to track. The aim of this proposal is to create a server which can track statistics on who is reading your feeds, and what they are reading. 0.1 Criteria Meritocracy: Apache was chosen for an incubator for the

Re: Proposal for a new incubation project: Unstructured Information Management Architecture - UIMA - project descriptions

2006-08-24 Thread David Welton
The Unstructured Information Management Architecture (UIMA) is an architecture and software framework for creating, discovering, composing and deploying a broad range of multi-modal analysis capabilities. We propose a project to develop, implement, support and enhance UIMA framework implementatio

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Ross Gardler
Upayavira wrote: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling +1, non-binding Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I didn't object... I voted -0 based on the information I was pointed out, which (as you said) is not a very good comparison point. *shrug* Sorry if I came across too strongly. Igor pointed out my reply had a bit of a zealous tone to it. My only goal was to explain the idea behind Wicket a bit.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On 8/24/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... I'm developing a desktop application. You can object to the importance we give to providing a clean OO model, and argue that our tradeoffs are ill chosen, but I believe Wicket fills a gap in the web framework sphere. I didn't object...

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/24/06, Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/24/06, Ersin Er <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... > Wicket vs. Struts: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Struts Bleh. That page confuses a lot of things. It conflates disparate components (e.g. Struts and JSP) in order to form opini

[PROPOSAL] InfoEng project proposal

2006-08-24 Thread J. Patrick Bedell
Hi, I'm submitting this proposal because of my desire to contribute to the ASF and, especially, because the project proposed for incubation is particularly directed toward creating new tools for ASF developers to work more efficiently and derive greater rewards from their open-source work. I

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 (non-binding) On 8/24/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, +1. Yoav On 8/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 > > On 8/24/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, please cast your votes: > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, +1. Yoav On 8/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 On 8/24/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, please cast your votes: > > > > [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling > > [ ] 0 Don't care > > [ ] -1 Rej

-1 votes on proposals need no explanation was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos. So, there's no requirement that you provide a reason for voting against it -

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Don Brown
+1 On 8/24/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, please cast your votes: > > [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling > [ ] 0 Don't care > [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: JIni Proposal

2006-08-24 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 8/22/06, Jim Hurley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We would like to include the API docs ("specifications" seems to be a loaded term, with many different definitions and assumptions tied up in it) in the project. OK. So the scope of a revised proposal would be broader than just the implemen

Re: Joining Incubator PMC (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...Not sure if binding or not, I've signed up as a mentor for Wicket but > didn't participate in incubator activities before. Currently non-binding. But, as an ASF member, you should ask the Incubator PMC to join.

Re: JIni Proposal

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Brouwer
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 23 August 2006 03:18, Jim Hurley wrote: We, therefore, are open to discussing a name change to something else within the Jini Community. If there's agreement on the positions stated in 1 and 2 above, we'll assume there's general support for our Proposal to Apa

Re: JIni Proposal

2006-08-24 Thread Jim Hurley
While we continue to look forward to your review and response ;-) thought I'd mention a Jini event coming up next month: * Tenth Jini Community Meeting Brusse

Joining Incubator PMC (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ...=== Name === >> >> Obviously, the >> ... > > Looks like something's missing on that line, it ends after "Obviously, > the". Not having a good day. That was where I started saying that I'd done a US trademark se

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...=== Name === Obviously, the ... Looks like something's missing on that line, it ends after "Obviously, the". Apart from that: +1. Not sure if binding or not, I've signed up as a mentor for Wicket but didn't participate in incubator activit

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 24 Aug 06, at 3:02 AM 24 Aug 06, Upayavira wrote: Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. As previously mentioned, the Wicket community held a unanimous vote to approach the incubator. The vote thread is h

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
Upayavira wrote: So, please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: +1 Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Gwyn Evans
[X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling /Gwyn P.S. We'll be happy to discuss "Why Wicket" or the Wicket homepage & marketing-speak, but I don't think this thread's the place to do it! -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! - http://wicketframework.org -

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Brouwer
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 03:24, Mark Brouwer wrote: I would be saddened if we can't maintain "Jini" as project name I think Mark has put it rather well. The Jini community want a water cooler to gather around. Brilliant :-) -- Mark

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I've never used Wicket, but I've done a fair number of webapps using similar component frameworks, such as WebObjects and Tapestry. All I can say - it is hard to argue about component frameworks with people who never used them. The benefit is essentially a different more developer-friendly

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On 8/24/06, Ersin Er <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... Wicket vs. Struts: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Struts Bleh. That page confuses a lot of things. It conflates disparate components (e.g. Struts and JSP) in order to form opinions. It appears that Wicket also does state manageme

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 24 August 2006 18:16, Greg Stein wrote: > I would be interested in a comparison of Wicket to things like Struts, > Jetspeed, Cocoon, or whatever other Apache project might be reasonable > compared-against. I've got no problem with Wicket beating the pants > off every other Apache projec

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fluoride

2006-08-24 Thread Ian Holsman
On 24/08/2006, at 8:29 PM, Greg Stein wrote: The original proposal: bluntly: f*k the g*dm*d users list. You got zero code, so there is no purpose to a users list. Fork that out of the dev list if/when it is appropriate. I'd even suggest sending all commits to the dev list to start with. All in

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 Mvgr, Martin Upayavira wrote: Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. As previously mentioned, the Wicket community held a unanimous vote to approach the incubator. The vote thread is here: http://www.mail-a

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Ersin Er
Hi, I am sure Wicket folks can give more detailed explanations but I want to say that Wicket has the most elegant approach to web development I have ever seen. Wicket (and may be other very similar ones) is the only framework which seperates code and ui _truely_. Other projects of course have the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fluoride

2006-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On 8/24/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:51:33PM -0400, Yoav Shapira wrote: > Do proposed projects by current ASF members need official mentors and > champions who are different than the proposer? ... What Noel and others have said in the past is "essentially y

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
Java web frameworks tend to be a dime a dozen, and they all talk about their "simplicity". Every one of them. Then I sat thru a Struts presentation. Gah. I would be interested in a comparison of Wicket to things like Struts, Jetspeed, Cocoon, or whatever other Apache project might be reasonable c

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:02:53AM -0700, Upayavira wrote: > Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a > vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. > = Wicket Proposal = > > This proposal outlines the creation of a new top-level Wicket project > within the Apache So

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fluoride

2006-08-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:51:33PM -0400, Yoav Shapira wrote: > Do proposed projects by current ASF members need official mentors and > champions who are different than the proposer? Good question. This is the first time we have one like this :) What Noel and others have said in the past is "esse

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Martin Marinschek
+1 (non-binding) regards, Martin On 8/24/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:02, Upayavira wrote: > So, please cast your votes: > [x] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling (non-binding) Cheers Niclas ---

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:02, Upayavira wrote: > So, please cast your votes: > [x] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling (non-binding) Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-

Oops (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator)

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Searching for '[VOTE]' on the wicket archives isn't enough to find the relevant vote :-( Here's the correct link: http://www.mail-archive.com/wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net/index.html#08853 Upayavira Upayavira wrote: > Folks, > > Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd lik

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (non binding) -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! Embed Wicket components in your portals! -- http://wicketframework.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Upayavira
Folks, Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator. As previously mentioned, the Wicket community held a unanimous vote to approach the incubator. The vote thread is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/wicket-develop@lists.sourc