Ode Proposal

2006-02-13 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Ok. Here's the proposal http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OdeProposal. Please feel free to comment. Bill Flood, can you provide us with the list of Sybase developers that wish to work on this project? Can you get the Software Grant paperwork faxed in? Any other ASF committers want to jump

Re: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

2006-02-13 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 2/13/2006 6:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Alan, * I have no problem with the tarballs, but the plain jars do not have the disclaimer associated with them. Any current user of ActiveMQ will have to modify their Maven project descriptor to change the groupId of activemq to

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 2/13/2006 6:43 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community In other words, they *don't* want to contribute it to Apache. They want it to go into a specific and particular niche *at* Apache. Why the specificity? Why d

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread David Jencks
I'd like to retract this email. I have doubts on both sides of this and may try to explain them in a clearer way in another message. My apologies david jencks On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:26 PM, David Jencks wrote: After being nervous for quite a while I have come to think that the sybase bpel en

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dain Sundstrom wrote: > > I don't think anyone has said that this isn't a donation to apache. > Every donation I have seen to apache, has either come to a PMC and is > sponsored as a IP donation or incubated sub project, or comes > directly to

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dain Sundstrom wrote: > > I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI > implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration > engine exposed via the BPEL specification. I am not worried about > "barriers" to

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:56:49PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > >On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >>... > >>Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the > >>ServiceMix community wants to work with

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 2/13/2006 11:04 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: The all of the links on http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ index.html seem to be broken. I'll try to figure out what is wrong, but if someone has an idea or is already working on it, please let me know. Fixed and released. Regards, Al

RE: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

2006-02-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan, > > * The paperwork has not been recorded by the ASF Secretary. > > * I don't see a Software Grant for any of the code that came > > over from codehaus. > I believe that these have been now sent and confirmed. So we're all caught up on IP grants from every contributor whose code w

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread David Crossley
Dain Sundstrom wrote: > I am more than willing to rebuild the site, but the xmlbeancxx.xml > file is really messed up and I don't have the time to fix it right > now. It is missing most quotes around attribute values and has many > unclosed xml elements. It was a copy of a generated html pa

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread David Jencks
After being nervous for quite a while I have come to think that the sybase bpel engine should go in as part of servicemix and if further uses outside servicemix develop we can see about splitting it off. more comments inline. On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dain Sundst

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread David Crossley
Jean T. Anderson wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Jean T. Anderson wrote: > >>Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >>>Should be fixed now. > >>> > >>>How often does the site update? > >> > >>I notice it happens very quickly (a matter of a minute, if even that) > >>these days after you do the 'svn up' on peopl

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:40:47PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the > >contribution > >as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and others can consume. > >This would be in accor

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: ... Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the ServiceMix community wants to work with the code. Any contributor It should be donate to APACHE. The various people c

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the contribution as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and others can consume. This would be in accord with Ken and Mads. I really detest it when people try to flip the burde

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: >... > Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the > ServiceMix community wants to work with the code. Any contributor It should be donate to APACHE. The various people can come to it. To be frank, some communities

RE: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: > I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every > JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration > engine exposed via the BPEL specification. If every JBI implementation has an integrated orchestration engine, then we should factor

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
was there some crosspost dropped here? Mads Toftum wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:19:56PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: If any project inside or outside of Apache wants their own copy of this code to develop they can always fork the code (as is allowed by any open source project). Wh

Re: [Issues] Kabuki Bootstrap

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Clark
David Crossley wrote: > Assuming the project has been accepted for Incubation, > you need the project status report before any > infrastructure stuff will happen. Done. I added the projects/kabuki.xml file, re-generated the site and updated the public web. Who has the karma+knowledge to be able t

RE: wrong source format for xmlbeanscxx status report

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Yoder
Hi David, Allen is out this week. I'll take a look at it. Thanks, Michael > -Original Message- > From: David Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: wrong source format for xm

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Mads Toftum
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:19:56PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: >If any project inside or outside of Apache wants their own copy > of this code to develop they can always fork the code (as is allowed > by any open source project). > Whoa! Are you actively suggesting forks inside the same c

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
After a quick chat with Dims, I think I need to make a quick correction to this email On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration engine expos

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I am more than willing to rebuild the site, but the xmlbeancxx.xml file is really messed up and I don't have the time to fix it right now. It is missing most quotes around attribute values and has many unclosed xml elements. Can someone from this project clean up this file? Thanks, -dain

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Aaron Mulder
I agree with Dain; let's get the code running in ServiceMix, and then we can break it off when it's ready to stand alone. Thanks, Aaron On 2/13/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI > implementation that I am aware

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson
David Crossley wrote: > Jean T. Anderson wrote: > >>Dain Sundstrom wrote: >> >>>Should be fixed now. >>> >>>How often does the site update? >> >>I notice it happens very quickly (a matter of a minute, if even that) >>these days after you do the 'svn up' on people.apache.org. > > > Dain, i notice

Re: wrong source format for xmlbeanscxx status report

2006-02-13 Thread David Crossley
Would somebody from the project please fix the status report. It seems that you have used a copy of an old generated website document rather than the source template. -David David Crossley wrote: > Please follow the instructions at > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html > > You have

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread David Crossley
Jean T. Anderson wrote: > Dain Sundstrom wrote: > > Should be fixed now. > > > > How often does the site update? > > I notice it happens very quickly (a matter of a minute, if even that) > these days after you do the 'svn up' on people.apache.org. Dain, i noticed that you only updated the source

[IP Clearance] geronimo-1478-xbean

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I have committed the ip-clearance for the XBean donation to Geronimo: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi?rev=377477&view=rev If there are no objections, I will commit the code with history on Wednesday February 15th. -dain -

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration engine exposed via the BPEL specification. I am not worried about "barriers" to any committers, "accidental too-tight binding" or "UNrelated" mail on mai

BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After re-reading all the discussion threads and getting some technology education from people kind enough not to bash me on the bonce, my strong recommendation is that the Sybase contribution be made as a new podling proposal to the incubator. That's

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 2/13/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice it happens very quickly (a matter of a minute, if even that) > these days after you do the 'svn up' on people.apache.org. people.apache.org == www.apache.org right now. ;-) When ajax gets reinstalled, we may push www back over to

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 2/13/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>This won't work because this file is in the same directory as the index >>file. This entry needs to be: > > > It worked when the base tag was there (i.e. when I cleaned up that > page). When the base tag was

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Dain Sundstrom wrote: > Should be fixed now. > > How often does the site update? I notice it happens very quickly (a matter of a minute, if even that) these days after you do the 'svn up' on people.apache.org. -jean > -dain > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: > >> Dava

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 2/13/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This won't work because this file is in the same directory as the index > file. This entry needs to be: It worked when the base tag was there (i.e. when I cleaned up that page). When the base tag was removed, it obviously broke. =) No bi

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Should be fixed now. How often does the site update? -dain On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrote: hmmm..they have extra "ip-clearance" in each of the url's. The additional directory is in the source. For example, here's the first entry in incubator

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Davanum Srinivas wrote: > hmmm..they have extra "ip-clearance" in each of the url's. The additional directory is in the source. For example, here's the first entry in incubator/site-author/ip-clearance/index.xml: harmony-16-contribution-classlib-intel This won't work because this file is in the

Re: IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
hmmm..they have extra "ip-clearance" in each of the url's. On 2/13/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The all of the links on http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ > index.html seem to be broken. I'll try to figure out what is wrong, > but if someone has an idea or is already wo

IP clearance page broken

2006-02-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
The all of the links on http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ index.html seem to be broken. I'll try to figure out what is wrong, but if someone has an idea or is already working on it, please let me know. -dain - To

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-13 Thread David E. Jones
On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:26 AM, J Aaron Farr wrote: On 2/13/06, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: J Aaron, thanks for your feedback. Sorry but I still have some doubts about this: if a guy signs an iCLA in which he states that he agrees to release under the ASL all the work (present a

Re: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

2006-02-13 Thread James Strachan
Noel - AFAIK all of your reservations are now resolved - can you confirm you are happy to remove your -1 so we can do the milestone release please? James On 10 Feb 2006, at 05:54, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: What's the current vote at? IIUC, if Noel remove's his -1 vote, the release is good to

[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-14) Incubator release documentation needs clarification

2006-02-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-14?page=all ] Jean T. Anderson closed INCUBATOR-14: - Resolution: Fixed The doc topic thread started on general@ at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200602.mbox/[EMAIL P

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 2/13/06, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > J Aaron, > > thanks for your feedback. > Sorry but I still have some doubts about this: > > if a guy signs an iCLA in which he states that he agrees to release > under the ASL all the work (present and future) that he sends to the ASF > (th

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-13 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
J Aaron, thanks for your feedback. Sorry but I still have some doubts about this: if a guy signs an iCLA in which he states that he agrees to release under the ASL all the work (present and future) that he sends to the ASF (thru mailing lists, Jira, SVN etc...), in which way this agreement wil

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 2/13/06, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > here at OFBiz we'd like to go on with the IP-clearance effort but, since > we are going to contact *many* developers, we would like to be sure that > the steps we'll perform are the correct ones. > > Anyone here could help us to