APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*-
Last modified at [$Date: 2005-11-24 00:30:24 -0500 (Thu, 24 Nov 2005) $]
Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/
Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
[note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki
On 12/28/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> > Is there a well-defined line between these two mechanisms for bringing
> new
> > code to the ASF?
>
> No, not a well-defined one. The IP Clearance is primarily intended for
> use
> with a relatively simple Software Grant sit
Noel,
I agree, as we need a better polic/process for IP Clearance, it can't
be left to one person. I already insisted on full incubation for the
specific issue. Though mind you, i'd love to have some guidelines i
can check off of to back up why i think a full incubation is prudent.
In this specifi
Martin,
> Is there a well-defined line between these two mechanisms for bringing new
> code to the ASF?
No, not a well-defined one. The IP Clearance is primarily intended for use
with a relatively simple Software Grant situation into an existing project,
such as libtool, which we can contrast wi
Dims,
> it's been a line in the sand AFAIK, i guess it's Noel's call.
-1
Although that might be technically true, we do things collectively in the
ASF. Mind you, we've not had a process for voting on IP Clearance type
submissions, so that's been a potential loophole.
> I think we should insist
Folks,
I was browsing the ip-clearance documents
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/).
IMNSHO, I don't like what's happening. It *SHOULD* be incubator PMC's
call whether an incoming donation can take "IP Clearance" route or
whether it needs undergo ful
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 03:53:31PM -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> +1 to 3 ASF Members/Officers as mentors
> +1 to require Incubator PMC vote for *ALL* incoming projects
> +1 to require Incubator PMC vote even on simpler IP imports
>
yeah, sounds good to me. More mentors / oversight is likely to
Martin,
it's been a line in the sand AFAIK, i guess it's Noel's call. I don't
remember voting on some of the things on the site
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/)
I think we should insist on a full incubation for
Cherokee/Tomahawk/ADF (whatever it's
+1 to 3 ASF Members/Officers as mentors
+1 to require Incubator PMC vote for *ALL* incoming projects
+1 to require Incubator PMC vote even on simpler IP imports
thanks,
dims
On 12/28/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
>
> > The Incubator PMC only needs to care ab
Is there a well-defined line between these two mechanisms for bringing new
code to the ASF? Not having seen the code yet, I can't say for sure, but I
would expect the Oracle ADF Faces donation to be substantial, and include
a framework that ties everything together. I would have thought that wou
Steven Noels wrote:
> The Incubator PMC only needs to care about IP and legal blahblah,
> thus the receiving PMCs are tasked with community and brand abuse
> stuff.
Not true. If there is community development, the Incubator PMC had better
be involved. We're going to have to adjust things, such
Erik Abele wrote:
> Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>>> What you do have is the right to vote against their graduation if
>>> you so desire.
> The second sentence does exactly what the first sentence forbids, no?
> It tells people what they cannot do at the ASF.
It is established that the Incubator is t
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> If any ASF PMC believes it is in the best interest of the Foundation to
> accept a podling and they are willing to dedicate resources ("people") -
> then anyone on the Incubator PMC has no standing to challenge that
> decision. When a PMC approves a podling, the only th
Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I have never envisioned a case where the Incubator would
> be at odds with the desires of the PMCs and the members.
As Geir noted, I can see the potential for the former, but of the latter,
I would hope not. The Members are the Incubator in many real ways, and the
Incuba
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> I'm all in favor of enforcing a strict embargo until the Incubator PMC
? approves a proposal, an initial code drop lands, and the mailing lists are
> created. Until those happen, any active publicity claiming it to be a
part
> of the ASF is a flat-out lie. (In the futu
[Sorry for the delayed response ... spent a few days rebuilding my laptop.]
David tried to get people interested in the issue, constructively, back in
November.
ref:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200511.mbox/%3c20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please review David's post from al
On 12/27/2005 7:12 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On 12/27/05, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Seems like an oxymoron, community should be active, but the code may
not, no? How can this be?
Two ways:
1) The conversation that Brett mentions. General pan-apache Java
things. I'm a
On 12/27/2005 4:25 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
Discussion of upcoming specs, discussion of usage of the specs, a
users list that helps people use the specs (this is necessary, but
worries me about getting "how do I do servlets" type questions).
I guess there is also scope to innovate in addition to
On 12/23/05, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spotted the same "discrepancy" myself a while back (I only found
> one podling with a STATUS file -- Beehive). Eventually it turned out
> that what was meant by the STATUS file was the podling's status Web
> page.
>
>
> > I think that was jus
David Crossley wrote:
If people have issues with Forrest, then please take them
to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. It is totally unfair
to a new project to just criticise it from afar. We get
very few emails to the user mailing list about any issues
with Forrest. This seems to be especially t
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:03:34 +1100, "David Crossley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >
> > Example: last apachecon, Geir was trying to update geronimo.html, it
> > took 30+ mins before asking for help. It took me 15+ minutes to figure
> > out that geronimo.html was not being
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