Erik Abele wrote:

> Roy T. Fielding wrote:

>>> What you do have is the right to vote against their graduation if
>>> you so desire.

> The second sentence does exactly what the first sentence forbids, no?
> It tells people what they cannot do at the ASF.

It is established that the Incubator is the sole authority on new entry
into the ASF.  The talking point is the barrier into the vestibule, if you
will.

Roy wants an open policy, others are concerned that there is too much
chaos and confusion in the antechambers.  Worse, they are concerned that
projects under the Incubator may be causing confusion about what is and is
not under the imprimatur of the ASF.

We can revisit branding, but I don't believe that a totally non-ASF brand
is at all warranted, as explained by Justin.

        --- Noel

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