Mission Statement

2021-06-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:07 AM > From: "Aaron Gyes via Gcc" > To: "GCC Administrator via Gcc" > Subject: Re: Mission Statement > > > In this state of making something right, and making > > something wrong, there is no way for inclusiveness. > > Are you familiar with the tolerance para

Licensing Complications

2021-06-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
- Christopher Dimech Administrator General - Naiad Informatics - Gnu Project Society has become too quick to pass judgement and declare someone Persona Non-Grata, the most extreme form of censure a country can bestow. In a new era of destructive authoritarianism, I support Richard Stallman

Mission Statement

2021-06-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:49 AM > From: "Aaron Gyes via Gcc" > To: "GCC Administrator via Gcc" > Subject: Re: Mission Statement > > On Jun 9, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > > Besides inspiring a sceptic attit

GCC Mission Statement

2021-06-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:26 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Richard Biener" > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" , "Valentino Giudice" > > Subject: Re: GCC Mission Statement > > Sure Richard, I know. > > On June 9, 2021 2:32:22 PM UTC, Richard Biener wrote: > > > > You are free to create "D

Mission Statement

2021-06-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
was an announcement; the changes in the mission statement > reflect the new reality introduced by that announcement: > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html > > Siddhesh > - Christopher Dimech Administrator General - Naiad Informatics - Gnu Project Societ

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2021 at 2:17 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "David Edelsohn" > Cc: "Jakub Jelinek" , "gcc Mailing List" > Subject: Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy > > Hi David, > > On June 7, 2021 1:26:52 PM UTC, David Edelsohn wrote: > > > > > It's a breaking change,

Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2021 at 6:10 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Jason Merrill" > Cc: "Jakub Jelinek" , "gcc Mailing List" > Subject: Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy > > Hi Jason, > > On June 7, 2021 5:24:12 PM UTC, Jason Merrill wrote: > > > > Why would someone bother to

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-03 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
are Freedom Law Center has always sought to resolve licensing disputes amicably. On the other, the Software Freedom Conservancy takes much harder line against the noncompliance of licensing terms. On August 26, 2016, Linus Torvalds stated that he found such type of lawyering a nasty festering

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-03 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
he reality that many business administrators have a grasping attitude towards software, science, and knowledge in general, seeing any activity or knowledge only as opportunities for unjust income, not as opportunities to contribute to human knowledge. Workers today have no rights in the new di

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-02 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
n to continue with the current system of copyright assignment to a single entity. And only allow the use of additional contributions for unique and special situations that arise. Because there could be a time where you would not be able to use that piece of code. The biggest problem is loos

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
the FSF is unskilled and unnecessary. Much effort should rather be put upon doing real work, opposing the European Union Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market that came into force on 7 June 2019. > > I would be happy to setup a shared copyright pool under the Conservancy > > Copyleft

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
of the > sources, but I suspect it will. A copyright assignment made to FSF (or > another legal entity) prevents this complication from happening. > > Maciej No. What the copyright holder can do is the re-license by any other license he wants (even proprietary). But you can&#

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
A file should be kept with the author name, date and changes done by each contributor. Including this is the source code would make the history too long. Otherwise, such information can be put at the end of the file. - Christopher Dimech Society has became too quick to pass judgement and

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 at 4:24 AM > From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Paul Koning" , "Jakub Jelinek" > , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy >

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
ersonally I think that while assignment is a PITA and I wish it were > easier, it is extremely valuable and provides a lot of flexibility, and > shouldn't be abandoned without very, VERY careful consideration. > > And, that decision and those considerations should be documented and &g

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
port that piece of code for some particular reason, he should be able to do it. A free software license should not stop us from using the code, whether he died or not. Indeed the licensing is there to avoid such problems. It is also legally enforceable. It was one of wy arguments in favour.

Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
compatible license without requiring copyright. - Christopher Dimech Society has became too quick to pass judgement and declare someone Persona Non-Grata, the most extreme form of censure a country can bestow. In a new era of destructive authoritarianism, I support Richard Stallman. Times of

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
You got to understand what an employee 100% of the time means. It means to be 100% Employer-Owned - It is the Culture of Ownership. But the tyrannical double standard do-gooders and the continued pretense that they're trying to help people in this society (e.g. women, minorities, free software, et

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
Obviously the dude was not Eric Raymond, because he would have sent the IBM Fuckhead an appropriate reply. These are the developers at IBM, who after being watched by the IBM Panopticon, they obey! Now repeat after me, "Whenever I hear the voice say, 'Now, listen to me, ' I will obey." "When I he

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-19 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 3:47 PM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Thomas Rodgers" , "Jonathan Wakely" > > Cc: "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Mon Apr 19, 2021 at 4:06 PM BST, Thomas Rodgers wrote: > > Google doesn't pay anybody to work on GCC all day.

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-19 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 3:06 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Jonathan Wakely" > Cc: "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On 2021-04-18 23:29, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, 02:41 Frosku, wrote: > > > > On Sun Apr 18, 2021

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 at 1:10 PM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Alexandre Oliva" , "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" > > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Sun Apr 18, 2021 at 9:22 PM BST, Alexandre Oliva via Gcc wrote: > > That's why it's best to dissent politely, lest they incorrectly concl

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 at 4:58 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Siddhesh Poyarekar" , "GCC Development" > , "Ville Voutilainen" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from th

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
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Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
Some had contacted me about it. Could have sent response off the list. > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 at 1:05 AM > From: "Richard Kenner" > To: dim...@gmx.com > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, siddh...@gotplt.org, ville.voutilai...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF d

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
with hindsight... > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 11:06 PM > From: "Ville Voutilainen" > To: "Richard Kenner" > Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , "GCC Development" > , siddh...@gotplt.org > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 10:49 PM > From: "Richard Kenner" > To: dim...@gmx.com > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, siddh...@gotplt.org, ville.voutilai...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > > Depends on the use cases. Not in military surveillance. And

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:53 PM > From: "Siddhesh Poyarekar" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "NightStrike" , "Ville Voutilainen" > , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/F

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 9:06 PM > From: "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" > To: "Aaron Gyes" > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, 10:01 Christopher Dimech vi

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
You don't have to believe me of course. Go ask any lawyer worth her salt and she'll tell you the same thing! > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:53 PM > From: "Aaron Gyes" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: A suggest

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:53 PM > From: "Siddhesh Poyarekar" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "NightStrike" , "Ville Voutilainen" > , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/F

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
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Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-18 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
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Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 6:09 PM > From: "Siddhesh Poyarekar" > To: "NightStrike" , "Ville Voutilainen" > > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > On 4/17/21 12:11 AM, NightStrike via Gcc wrote: > > I was under the (likely incorr

A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
I was under the (likely incorrect, please enlighten me) impression that the meteoric rise of LLVM had more to do with the license allowing corporate contributors to ship derived works in binary form without sharing proprietary code. - NightStrike You are correct. LLVM is under the Apache License

A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
You have specified that the community does not require my approval or that of Eric Raymond. That is true of course. But many have gone through so much new age training that they ended up with a very sophisticated way of bullshitting themselves. Regards Christopher > I'll see my work in GCC11 th

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 5:40 AM > From: "Ville Voutilainen" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Jason Merrill" , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > On Sat, 17 Apr 2021

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 5:07 AM > From: "Ville Voutilainen" > To: "Jason Merrill" > Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
Fundamentally, "micro-aggressions" describe insults and dismissals. Interpreting insults and dismissals as aggression leads only to an atrophy of the skills needed to mediate one's own disputes with others. I oppose the use of the term absolutely. --------- Chr

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 9:41 PM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" , "Andrew Pinski" , > "Andrew Pinski via Gcc" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Sat Apr 17, 2021 at 10:08 AM BST, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > But in fact, millions of people outside the US would feel ex

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 11:56 PM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Gerald Pfeifer" , "Frosku" > > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > Hi Gerald,, > > On April 17, 2021 9:09:19 AM UTC, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, Frosku wrote: > > > In my view,

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 9:25 PM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Aaron Gyes" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Sat Apr 17, 2021 at 10:04 AM BST, Aaron Gyes via Gcc wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2021, at 1:36 AM, Frosku wrote: > > > I feel imposed upon when, as a volunteer

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-17 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 9:09 PM > From: "Gerald Pfeifer" > To: "Frosku" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, Frosku wrote: > > In my view, if people employed by a small number of American companies > > succeed in disassociating GCC fr

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-16 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 11:15 AM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Ian Lance Taylor" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Fri Apr 16, 2021 at 5:28 PM BST, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:08 PM Frosku wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-16 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 2:42 AM > From: "Iain Sandoe via Gcc" > To: "GCC Development" > Cc: "Thomas Koenig" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > Kalamatee wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 11:05, Kalamatee wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 10:42, Iain Sandoe via Gcc

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-16 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 1:03 AM > From: "Ville Voutilainen" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 15:46, Christopher Dim

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-16 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 1:03 AM > From: "Ville Voutilainen" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 15:46, Christopher Dim

Re: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-16 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM > From: "Ville Voutilainen via Gcc" > To: "GCC Development" > Subject: A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate > > Huge apologies for mis-sending this to gcc-patches, > my email client makes suggestions when I attempt > to send to a gcc li

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:16 PM > From: "Joseph Myers" > To: "Frosku" > Cc: e...@thyrsus.com, "Christopher Dimech" , "GCC > Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, Frosku wro

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:52 AM > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Frosku" , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > Christopher Dimech via Gcc : > > The commercial use

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
century is long past, many educated people today are either uneducated, or education has educated them out of it. - Christopher Dimech General Administrator - Naiad Informatics - GNU Project (Geocomputation) - Geophysical Simulation - Geological Subsurface Mapping - Disaster

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:11 AM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Ian Lance Taylor" , chris.punc...@silogroup.org > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Thu Apr 15, 2021 at 9:51 PM BST, Ian Lance Taylor via Gcc wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 1:26 PM Chris Punch

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 8:51 AM > From: "Ian Lance Taylor via Gcc" > To: chris.punc...@silogroup.org > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 1:26 PM Chris Punches via Gcc wrote: > > > > Every single proponent of this argument that I

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> >> === > >> > >> So .. in summary: > >> > >> 1/ I propose that we do have written guidelines, to which someone behaving > >> in a > >> non-constructive manner can be pointed. > >> > >> 2/ if those guidelines *are the consensus* of this group and someone is > >> unable to > >> follow them

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 7:21 AM > From: "Iain Sandoe" > To: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > Paul Koning wrote: > >> On Apr 15, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Iain Sandoe wrote: > >> > >> ... > >> responding in general to this part of the thread. > >> > >> * The GCC

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 5:31 AM > From: "David Malcolm via Gcc" > To: e...@thyrsus.com, "Joseph Myers" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Thu, 2021-04-15 at 09:49 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Joseph Myers : > > > On Wed, 14 Apr

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 4:24 AM > From: "Richard Biener via Gcc" > To: "Jason Merrill" > Cc: "Thomas Koenig" , "gcc mailing list" > > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On April 15, 2021 6:02:50 PM GMT+02:00, Jason Merrill > wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:08 AM Richa

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 10:20 PM > From: "Aaron Gyes" > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Cc: dim...@gmx.com > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > > On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > What are we? Adults or Chil

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-15 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 9:18 PM > From: "Jonathan Wakely" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Nathan Sidwell" , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 02:18, Christopher Dimech

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:19 AM > From: "Nathan Sidwell" > To: "Martin Jambor" , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On 4/14/21 12:52 PM, Martin Jambor wrote: > > Hi Nathan, > > > > On Wed, Apr 14 2021, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > >> Do we have a policy about rem

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:32 AM > From: "Paul Koning via Gcc" > To: "Nathan Sidwell" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > > > > On Apr 14, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > > > > On 4/14/21 12:52 PM, Martin Jambor wrote: > >> Hi Nathan, > >> O

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:27 AM > From: "Joseph Myers" > To: "Eric S. Raymond" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > I'm not judging RMS's behavior (or anyone else's) one way or > > another

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:19 AM > From: "Nathan Sidwell" > To: "Martin Jambor" , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On 4/14/21 12:52 PM, Martin Jambor wrote: > > Hi Nathan, > > > > On Wed, Apr 14 2021, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > >> Do we have a policy about re

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 5:09 AM > From: "Jeff Law via Gcc" > To: "Jonathan Wakely" , "Thomas Koenig" > > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > > On 4/14/2021 8:49 AM, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 15:39, Thomas Koenig wrote: >

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 5:42 AM > From: "Jeff Law" > To: "Christopher Dimech" , "Toon Moene" > Cc: "Richard Biener" , "Jonathan Wakely" > , "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" , "Thomas > Koenig" >

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:18 AM > From: "Jeff Law via Gcc" > To: "Richard Biener" , "Jonathan Wakely" > , "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" , "Thomas > Koenig" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > > On 4/14/2021 6:08 AM, Richard Biener via Gcc wrote: > > On April 14, 2021 12:1

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
There are many things one can say, but when Richard Stallman talks about computing, he talks sense. I categorise him with Mathematician Paul Erdos. Furthermore, when I had disagreements with him, I never got ousted. > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 1:18 AM > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > To: "Na

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:35 AM > From: "Toon Moene" > To: "Jeff Law" , "Richard Biener" > , "Jonathan Wakely" , > "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" , "Thomas Koenig" > > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 4/14/21 6:18 PM, Jeff Law via Gcc wrote: > > > On 4/14/2021 6:08 AM,

Re: removing toxic emailers

2021-04-14 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 2:08 AM > From: "Nathan Sidwell" > To: e...@thyrsus.com > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On 4/14/21 9:18 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Nathan Sidwell : > >> Do we have a policy about removing list subscribers that send abusi

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 11:30 AM > From: "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" > To: "Alexandre Oliva" > Cc: "David Malcolm via Gcc" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 23:17 Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > > > Now, IIRC you and others have already disclaimed those re

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 8:04 AM > From: "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" > To: "Alexandre Oliva" > Cc: g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 19:28 Alexandre Oliva, wrote: > > > Jonathan, > > > > It's very offensive for you to misattribute a disagr

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 2:03 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 11/04/2021 15:39, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > >It should remain an acronym, but it should now stand for "GCC Compiler > >Collection"

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 1:11 AM > From: "Richard Kenner" > To: dim...@gmx.com > Cc: david.br...@hesbynett.no, g...@gnu.org, rodg...@appliantology.com > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > > > > So, that's a solid 'no' on the likelihood of you contributing > > > > anything of va

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 1:07 AM > From: "Frosku" > To: "Didier Kryn" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Sun Apr 11, 2021 at 11:08 AM BST, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 08/04/2021 à 17:00, David Brown a écrit : > > > At some point, someone in the public r

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 12:05 AM > From: "John Darrington" > To: "Gerald Pfeifer" > Cc: g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:30:41AM +0200, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > > There are a number of people arguing here who have contributed

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 8:10 AM > From: "Richard Kenner" > To: rodg...@appliantology.com > Cc: david.br...@hesbynett.no, dim...@gmx.com, g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > > So, that's a solid 'no' on the likelihood of you contributing > > anything of value to

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:52 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Pankaj Jangid" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 2021-04-10 09:01, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > > It's fantastic how inclusive you are, isn't it? :-D > > > > Indeed you

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:34 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Pankaj Jangid" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 10/04/2021 14:58, Pankaj Jangid wrote: > > > > I have never said that the project will survive without maintainers. I > > just asked you to cou

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:14 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "David Brown" , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 2021-04-10 08:54, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > &

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:01 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Thomas Rodgers" , "Jonathan > Wakely" > Cc: "Pankaj Jangid" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > It's fantastic how inclusive you are, isn't it? :-D > > Indeed you ARE inclusive to those who

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 3:59 AM > From: "David Malcolm" > To: "Thomas Rodgers" , "Christopher Dimech" > > Cc: g...@gnu.org, "David Brown" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 08:17 -

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 3:17 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "David Brown" , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 2021-04-09 14:34, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > >&

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 12:37 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "John Darrington" > Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , "David Malcolm" > , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > > > On 09/04/2021 20:3

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 12:27 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "John Darrington" , "David Malcolm" > , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 09/04/2021 20:02, Christo

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 2:53 PM > From: "Liu Hao" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > 在 2021/4/10 上午2:02, Christopher Dimech via Gcc 写道: > > > > It is an assessment

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 10:12 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Ian Lance Taylor" > Cc: "GCC Development" , g...@gnu.org, "David Brown" > > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > Just for the record, I was not talking about developers but about the > leadership of the proj

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:17 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "David Brown" , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 2021-04-09 14:02, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > B

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 7:37 AM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "David Brown" , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 2021-04-09 11:02, Christopher Dimech via Gcc wrote: > >

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
Things will still remain good for RMS by those willing to help him. I use free software every day and will be a long time before Richard exhausts his entitlement to help from me!!! > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:01 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Christop

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:01 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "John Darrington" , "David Malcolm" > , g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 09/04/2021 16:40, Christo

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 11:48 PM > From: "Pankaj Jangid" > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > Gabriel Ravier via Gcc writes: > > > RMS is not indispensible because he does not contribute to GCC and > > doesn't bring much to it, and otherwise takes mor

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 10:37 PM > From: "David Brown" > To: "John Darrington" , "David Malcolm" > > Cc: g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 09/04/2021 08:37, John Darrington wrote: > > > > > Nobody is suggesting that RMS should be regarded by everyone or

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 6:37 PM > From: "John Darrington" > To: "David Malcolm" > Cc: g...@gnu.org, "Alfred M. Szmidt" , "Mark Wielaard" > > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 09:35:23PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > RMS was the fi

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 7:48 AM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "David Malcolm" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > Hi David, > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 10:04:21AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 00:22 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrot

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 6:21 AM > From: "John Darrington" > To: "David Malcolm" > Cc: g...@gnu.org, "Alfred M. Szmidt" , "Mark Wielaard" > > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 10:54:25AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > I think it's important to

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 3:00 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Jonathan Wakely" , "David Malcolm" > > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Mark Wielaard" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 07/04/2021 19:17, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:04, David Malc

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-06 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 at 10:22 AM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "Jonathan Wakely" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: GCC association with the FSF > > Hi, > > Lets change the subject now that this is about GCC and the FSF. > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 01:46:29PM +0100, Jonathan Wakel

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-04 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 at 1:10 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Ian Lance Taylor" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee > > Ian, > > with all respect with your personal history, your contributions and > choices, I think y

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-04 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 at 1:10 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Ian Lance Taylor" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee > > Ian, > > with all respect with your personal history, your contributions and > choices, I think y

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-02 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 at 2:06 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Jonathan Wakely" > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee > > Dear Jonathan, > > everybody can see it... > > On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:05:10 +0100 Jonathan Wake

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