> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:19 AM > From: "Nathan Sidwell" <nat...@acm.org> > To: "Martin Jambor" <mjam...@suse.cz>, "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On 4/14/21 12:52 PM, Martin Jambor wrote: > > Hi Nathan, > > > > On Wed, Apr 14 2021, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > >> Do we have a policy about removing list subscribers that send abusive or > >> other toxic emails? do we have a code of conduct? Searching the wiki > >> or website finds nothing. The mission statement mentions nothing. > > > > I think that (most?) people have already figured out that messages from > > unfamiliar senders on certain topics have to be ignored. It is much > > easier than any moderation, which would be ugly work (someone would have > > to read the often horrible stuff). > > > > I think that you only "associate" with trolls if you feed them. I have > > recently made that mistake on this list once and will not repeat it. > > I disagree. Their emails pollute the list. Just as I wouldn't like to > go to a bar where there are noisy jerks in a corner, I don't like to > frequent an ML where there are. Bouncers exist in physical space, is it > so hard to electronically bounce jerks? Is it so hard to explicitly say > 'be a jerk and be thrown out'? > > Their presence makes the place unwelcoming. > > - nathan - > Nathan Sidwell
What are we? Adults or Children? You know, as I know, that identities can be made up. There are many computing specialists who can do that. They can even be made so it looks as though they were sent by you, or from your work and home address. They could even be made up to look as though your children sent them. I remember a closing comment by Eben Moglen during a full-day program at Columbia Law School in 2016. And I agree with him. So my point here — if it’s okay just to have a point when people should already be drinking and dancing — my point is let’s not get confused. This is not war time. This is diplomacy time. Skill counts. Agility counts. Discretion counts. Long credibility counts. Ammunition? Ammunition is worthless because wherever we fire it, we work everywhere and it’s only going to hit us. - Eben Moglen Christopher
