Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-04 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:59:59AM +0930, Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have dumps? No, for obvious reasons explained earlier. I'll spend some time today afternoon and set up suitable environment for getting dumps and debugging. -- Vallo Kallaste [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubsc

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 3 April 2000 at 19:23:34 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Matthew Dillon wrote: >>> Same story here, but using softupdates or async mounts I can reproduce >>> the hang or panic in less than 60 secs.. >>> >>> Vinum with raid5 is plain broken, include INVARIANTS in the kernel >>>

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 3 April 2000 at 10:23:08 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:07:33PM +0200, Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just to clearify the things... >> Are these problems with 4.0-RELEASE with 4.0-STABLE or with 5.0-CURRENT? > > Here's the sequence of what I di

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Same story here, but using softupdates or async mounts I can reproduce > :the hang or panic in less than 60 secs.. > : > :Vinum with raid5 is plain broken, include INVARIANTS in the kernel > :and see why... > : > :-Søren > > Hang on to that thought. As soon

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> 1. I had i386 system with two 20GB IBM ATA disks and 5.0-current system :> built from March 31 sources. First I used striping over two disks and :> put /usr filesystem onto it, did overnight testing and all was well. :> 2. Same system, same sources plus two same disks. Now I tried raid5 over :>

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > Here's the sequence of what I did: > > 1. I had i386 system with two 20GB IBM ATA disks and 5.0-current system > built from March 31 sources. First I used striping over two disks and > put /usr filesystem onto it, did overnight testing and all was well. > 2. Sa

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Greg Lehey wrote: > > This wont fix it on the i386 where the problem is, and btw I havn't seen > > any commits yet... > > No, I was just about to do something when phk changed the interfaces. > I don't have the time to keep chasing him, so I'll wait until we have > a relatively stable si

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:07:33PM +0200, Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to clearify the things... > Are these problems with 4.0-RELEASE with 4.0-STABLE or with 5.0-CURRENT? Here's the sequence of what I did: 1. I had i386 system with two 20GB IBM ATA disks and 5.0-current syste

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 3 April 2000 at 7:59:48 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Greg Lehey wrote: >>> Unfortunately I don't have a toy i386 system ready and testet on alpha. >>> There may be some differences how data corruptions efects on this platform. >> >> I found a potentially serious bug in the R

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Greg Lehey wrote: > > Unfortunately I don't have a toy i386 system ready and testet on alpha. > > There may be some differences how data corruptions efects on this platform. > > I found a potentially serious bug in the RAID calculations yesterday: > it assumed that sizeof (int) == 4. I

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 07:43:00AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > I found a potentially serious bug in the RAID calculations yesterday: > it assumed that sizeof (int) == 4. I suspect that it would just slow > down the calculations, but in any case I've fixed it. That's generaly not good but allways

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 07:41:54AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 April 2000 at 22:22:39 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > > It seems Bernd Walter wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:39:36PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: > >>> I dont think vinum is/was usable under -current at least not the

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
:>> to vinum? :> :> The changes done by phk to seperate out the io stuff from struct :> buf. : :Alfred and Bernd came up with fixes that seem to work. I still need :to review them, but I'm in the process of installing an up-to-date :-CURRENT on my test box. Watch this space. : :Greg I won'

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 2 April 2000 at 17:42:16 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 01:50:16AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 01:15:39AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: >>> >>> Greg - I'm using vinums raid5 code since months now for FreeBSDs CVS-Tree on >>> 7x 200M disks -

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 2 April 2000 at 22:22:39 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Bernd Walter wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:39:36PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: >>> I dont think vinum is/was usable under -current at least not the >>> RAID5 stuff, its broken, and some of it is because greg is not

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Soren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000402 13:05] wrote: > It seems Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > Just to clearify the things... > > > > Are these problems with 4.0-RELEASE with 4.0-STABLE or with 5.0-CURRENT? > > > > > > I have the problem with 4.0-RELEASE, STABLE and 5.0-current but it > >

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:39:36PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > I dont think vinum is/was usable under -current at least not the > > RAID5 stuff, its broken, and some of it is because greg is not > > up to date with what -current looks like these days. > > Can y

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:39:36PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: > I dont think vinum is/was usable under -current at least not the > RAID5 stuff, its broken, and some of it is because greg is not > up to date with what -current looks like these days. Can you please explain what have massivly chan

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > Just to clearify the things... > > > Are these problems with 4.0-RELEASE with 4.0-STABLE or with 5.0-CURRENT? > > > > I have the problem with 4.0-RELEASE, STABLE and 5.0-current but it > > might only occur with RAID5... > > I've never seen it with just a s

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Soren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000402 12:42] wrote: > It seems Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 08:02:54PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > > Yes, but I don't have space for crashdump and I can't build new kernel > > > with limited memory usage because I don't have /usr filesy

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 08:02:54PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > Yes, but I don't have space for crashdump and I can't build new kernel > > with limited memory usage because I don't have /usr filesystem up and > > running. Is there a way to limit memory usage with

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 08:02:54PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Yes, but I don't have space for crashdump and I can't build new kernel > with limited memory usage because I don't have /usr filesystem up and > running. Is there a way to limit memory usage without recompiling > kernel? I can store

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 06:16:43PM +0200, Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you see it only with R5 or also with other organisations? I don't have any problems with my own -current system which has striped volume over three UW SCSI disks. SCSI-only system, SMP. Sources from March 14.

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:37:30PM +0200, Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hook up serial console to get full traceback next time, but I don't > > have any knowledge for further analysis. > > You don't need a serial console to get further informations. > You should compile the kerne

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:38:01PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I hook up serial console to get full traceback next time, but

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:38:01PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > > I hook up serial console to get full traceback next time, but I don't > > > have any knowledge for fu

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:37:30PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > Are you for any chance running the NFS Server without nfsd? > I expect them to be needed if you are serving vinum volumes. Sometimes I'm to stupid - the NFS case was a different thread. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 01:50:16AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 01:15:39AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > Greg - I'm using vinums raid5 code since months now for FreeBSDs CVS-Tree on > > 7x 200M disks - it does not hang for me since a long time. > > The latest current

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > I hook up serial console to get full traceback next time, but I don't > > have any knowledge for further analysis. > > Here's full traceback, environment is all same, exce

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > I got now crash under 4.0-RELEASE, with syncer and bufdaemon in the same > vrlock state, pax in flswait. I was in single-user mode using pax to > extract usr archive to newly created raid5 volume. I'm using NFS mount > with flags -3

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hook up serial console to get full traceback next time, but I don't > have any knowledge for further analysis. Here's full traceback, environment is all same, except the filesystem is mounted with async (bef

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 01:50:16AM +0200, Bernd Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greg - I'm using vinums raid5 code since months now for FreeBSDs CVS-Tree on > > 7x 200M disks - it does not hang for me since a long time. > > The latest current I tested R5 well is from 19th March on alpha. Th

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-01 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 01:15:39AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > Greg - I'm using vinums raid5 code since months now for FreeBSDs CVS-Tree on > 7x 200M disks - it does not hang for me since a long time. > The latest current I tested R5 well is from 19th March on alpha. That's shortly > before PH

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-01 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 09:11:40AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 31 March 2000 at 21:32:22 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > > Yup, Greg and I know of this problem, it also happens with the wd > > driver and with CAM, so the problem is probably not the driver. > > I'm investigating this right

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-04-01 Thread Bernd Walter
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:25:44PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Hi > > I have four (4) ATA disks, all same new 20GB IBM 7200rpm models. Intel > Seattle BX2 mobo, PIIX4 controller. I'm not expecting any performance > increase or such, simply want to get my hands on. Ata driver, as the > -current

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-03-31 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Greg Lehey wrote: > > The problem that Søren and I are looking at is usually a panic. We > don't really know where it's happening, but we're each sure it's not > in *our* code :-) From a Vinum standpoint, it happens between the time > that Vinum sends a request to the driver and when th

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-03-31 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 31 March 2000 at 16:37:44 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > >> I'm not sure that this is the same problem. Please supply the >> information I ask for in http://www.lemis.com/vinum/how-to-debug.html. >> >> The problem that Søren and I are looking at is usually a panic. We >> don't really

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-03-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I'm not sure that this is the same problem. Please supply the :information I ask for in http://www.lemis.com/vinum/how-to-debug.html. : :The problem that Søren and I are looking at is usually a panic. We :don't really know where it's happening, but we're each sure it's not :in *our* code :-) F

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-03-31 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 31 March 2000 at 21:32:22 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have four (4) ATA disks, all same new 20GB IBM 7200rpm models. Intel >> Seattle BX2 mobo, PIIX4 controller. I'm not expecting any performance >> increase or such, simply want to get my h

Re: Deadlock with vinum raid5

2000-03-31 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Hi > > I have four (4) ATA disks, all same new 20GB IBM 7200rpm models. Intel > Seattle BX2 mobo, PIIX4 controller. I'm not expecting any performance > increase or such, simply want to get my hands on. Ata driver, as the > -current doesn't have wd anymore. > I hav