Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread R.L. Horn
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, BCA @ Free-Artists wrote: How about to mature FluidSynths sf2 performance before implementing a new format? To be frank, it seems to me like flogging a dead horse. I don't know a single professional musician who gives a rodent's hindquarters about soundfonts anymore and,

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread R.L. Horn
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, David Henningsson wrote: Sure, we could "just transfer it in", but then again, the results would be slightly wrong. Just as an example, sfz seems to have a three band EQ built into every voice [1], which SF2 voices do not. This is stuff we would have to add into the playbac

Re: [fluid-dev] Re : Re: About sustain and sostenuto pedal

2015-02-05 Thread R.L. Horn
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, CERESA Jean-Jacques ENAC/ENAC wrote: I agree with yours pertinent remarks. That's kind of you but, upon reflection, I realized that much of what I had to say was actually pretty stupid. All you get with noteOn is channel and note, so stacked noteOns probably result in u

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread BCA @ Free-Artists
How about to mature FluidSynths sf2 performance before implementing a new format? How about implementing support for 24-bit samples? ___ fluid-dev mailing list fluid-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-dev

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Garth Hjelte
At 03:29 PM 2/5/2015, you wrote: >I've been focusing mainly on getting the majority of features of other similar >formats supported and not worrying much about some of the other details which >can't be shoehorned into the SoundFont model. I've been told before that this >is wrong and that most

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Element Green
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Garth Hjelte wrote: > At 11:37 AM 2/5/2015, you wrote: > > >Hi and thanks for chiming in - as you very likely know, all formats have > >their own quirks and ways of transforming the sample according to > >various rules, so SFZ/DLS/Gigasampler/etc support would requ

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Garth Hjelte
At 01:21 PM 2/5/2015, you wrote: >Sure, we could "just transfer it in", but then again, the results would >be slightly wrong. Just as an example, sfz seems to have a three band EQ >built into every voice [1], which SF2 voices do not. This is stuff we >would have to add into the playback engine.

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread David Henningsson
On 2015-02-05 21:24, Garth Hjelte wrote: At 11:37 AM 2/5/2015, you wrote: Hi and thanks for chiming in - as you very likely know, all formats have their own quirks and ways of transforming the sample according to various rules, so SFZ/DLS/Gigasampler/etc support would require certain addition

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Garth Hjelte
At 01:40 PM 2/4/2015, you wrote: >I'd like to look into it, but various links to cakewalk's specifications are >dead-ending on me. It's making me wonder just how "open" the format really is. The reason is that Cakewalk was bought by Roland last year, and recently Gibson bought them from Roland

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Garth Hjelte
At 11:37 AM 2/5/2015, you wrote: >Hi and thanks for chiming in - as you very likely know, all formats have >their own quirks and ways of transforming the sample according to >various rules, so SFZ/DLS/Gigasampler/etc support would require certain >additions and changes to the playback core. Sim

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread David Henningsson
On 2015-02-05 16:39, Element Green wrote: I've brought up the subject before of adding support for libInstPatch, which is an instrument loading/saving/editing library that is at the heart of Swami. Swami itself, utilizes FluidSynth to load formats supported by libInstPatch (currently SoundFont

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Element Green
Hello list, Seems like an unnecessarily heated debate, however, I'll chime in on a few points. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:15 AM, BCA @ Free-Artists wrote: > In certain points, I don't understand the initial posting. One thing is > clear to me - he doesn't want to construct a soundfonts ("Going b

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread BCA @ Free-Artists
OK, stop cursing. Yes, you're right - that should be read as "96 kHz". BR Bernd. Am 05.02.2015 um 13:22 schrieb Mattes: For heaven´s sake - what for? That´s a dynamic range no human will ever be able to hear/use? Or did you just mix up bit-depth and (96khz) sampling rate? Cheers, Ralf

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread Mattes
Am Donnerstag, 05. Februar 2015 10:15 CET, "BCA @ Free-Artists" schrieb: > In certain points, I don't understand the initial posting. One thing is > clear to me - he doesn't want to construct a soundfonts ("Going by SF2 > is going to be hard for developer to implement new soundfont"). It

Re: [fluid-dev] Supported Wave/Flac format other than SF2

2015-02-05 Thread BCA @ Free-Artists
In certain points, I don't understand the initial posting. One thing is clear to me - he doesn't want to construct a soundfonts ("Going by SF2 is going to be hard for developer to implement new soundfont"). It appears he wants just to import sample files on button press, and start playing them.