Re: Enabling new HTTP cache on nightly (browser only, not automated tests) soon

2014-05-08 Thread L. David Baron
On Thursday 2014-05-08 18:48 -0400, Vladan Djeric wrote: > Why didn't TP5 report a regression in memory usage? Perhaps because of what this bit of the original message describes: > On 05/05/2014 8:14 PM, Jason Duell wrote: > >On 04/30/2014 11:23 PM, Jason Duell wrote: > >>Note: like last time, ca

Re: Enabling new HTTP cache on nightly (browser only, not automated tests) soon

2014-05-08 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Vladan Djeric wrote: > Why didn't TP5 report a regression in memory usage? Because TP5's memory measurements are meagre and usually fail to detect even obvious regressions. And this leak only occurred in unusual circumstances; AWSY is much better than TP5 at detect

Re: Time to revive the "require SSE2" discussion

2014-05-08 Thread Jonas Sicking
I'm curious how much of that 1% is on old versions of Firefox and aren't updating anyway? / Jonas On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:42 PM, wrote: > On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:37:53 PM UTC-8, Benoit Jacob wrote: >> 2012/1/3 Jeff Muizelaar : >> >> > >> >> > On 2012-01-03, at 2:01 PM, Benoit Jacob wrote

Re: Time to revive the "require SSE2" discussion

2014-05-08 Thread Benoit Jacob
Wonderful, thanks Matthew! @Stability-team: ^^^ see the value of public crashdata CSV files in action! Thanks! Benoit 2014-05-08 20:42 GMT-04:00 : > On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:37:53 PM UTC-8, Benoit Jacob wrote: > > 2012/1/3 Jeff Muizelaar : > > > > > > > > > > On 2012-01-03, at 2:01 PM, Be

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: CSS Working Group

2014-05-08 Thread Jonas Sicking
I'd really like to see the CSS WG spend some time on properties that allowed more control over scrolling and zooming. Also something that addresses the complexity involved in building "long scrollable lists". Right now a lot of websites implement their own scrolling behavior in JS by listening to

Re: Time to revive the "require SSE2" discussion

2014-05-08 Thread matthew . brett
On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:37:53 PM UTC-8, Benoit Jacob wrote: > 2012/1/3 Jeff Muizelaar : > > > > > > On 2012-01-03, at 2:01 PM, Benoit Jacob wrote: > > > > > > 2012/1/2 Robert Kaiser : > > > > > > Jean-Marc Desperrier schrieb: > > > > > > > > > According to https://bugzilla.mozilla.or

Proposal to revise W3C Process

2014-05-08 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposal to revise the W3C process, which is effectively in the "Proposed Recommendation" stage right now: http://www.w3.org/2014/05/Process-20140506/ The document contains a description of the major changes in the "Status of this Document" section. The most

Proposed W3C Charter: CSS Working Group

2014-05-08 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) Working Group http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2014May/.html http://www.w3.org/Style/2013/css-charter.html deadline for comments: May 29 Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objectio

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > On 2014-05-08, 8:55 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Benoit Jacob >> wrote: >>> >>> WebGL is low-level and generalistic enough that it is not specifically a >>> "3d" graphics API. I prefer to call it a low-l

Re: Enabling new HTTP cache on nightly (browser only, not automated tests) soon

2014-05-08 Thread Vladan Djeric
Why didn't TP5 report a regression in memory usage? On 05/05/2014 8:14 PM, Jason Duell wrote: Our trial run of the HTTP cache v2 is done and we will be back to using the old cache as of tonight's nightly. We found one very important bug that didn't show up in automated tests, which is great. J

Re: Removing telemetry probes while keeping them reported for ESR

2014-05-08 Thread Vladan Djeric
On 07/05/2014 9:51 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: I would like to retire some telemetry probes in Firefox 32, but at the same time, I would like the Telemetry Dashboard to keep reporting data for those probes throughout the lifetime of Thunderbird 31 ESR. To make sure that the probes don't disappear fr

Test failures in mochitest-browser caused by doing work inside DOM event handlers

2014-05-08 Thread Irving Reid
I've recently fought my way through a bunch of intermittent test failures in the Add-on Manager mochitest-browser suite, and there's a common anti-pattern where tests receive a Window callback, usually "unload", and proceed to do significant work inside that event handler (e.g. opening/closing/focu

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2014-05-08, 8:55 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Benoit Jacob wrote: WebGL is low-level and generalistic enough that it is not specifically a "3d" graphics API. I prefer to call it a low-level or generalistic graphics API. Fair, forgot about that argument. "we

update-timer runs during mochitests, causing intermittent failures. We should disable it.

2014-05-08 Thread Irving Reid
Diagnosing bug 1006075 led me to believe that our mochitest-browser framework instantiates and runs the update-timer service (http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/nsIUpdateTimerManager.idl, http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/update/nsUpdate

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2014-05-08, 5:51 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Benoit Jacob wrote: The "Implementations are free to return a context that implements a higher version" part violates the above requirement 1. in your email, "The WebGL working group wants web pages to opt in to th

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Vladimir Vukicevic
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:25:49 AM UTC-4, Henri Sivonen wrote: > Making the Web little-endian may indeed have been the right thing. > Still, at least from the outside, it looks like the WebGL group didn't > make an intentional wise decision to make the Web little-endian but > instead made a naive

Re: Disabling strict warnings as errors in xpcshell

2014-05-08 Thread Gavin Sharp
> I think what we should do is confirm that strict warnings as errors is > actually turned on for xpcshell, and if so, where this happens. Indeed. Can you set a breakpoint in toggleWerror and see what trips it? Gavin On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Eddy Bruel wrote: > To be clear, I don't actua

Re: Disabling strict warnings as errors in xpcshell

2014-05-08 Thread Eddy Bruel
To be clear, I don't actually know where the werror flag for xpcshell tests is set. What I've observed is: -If we Cu.import a JSM that requires module X, and then also require module X from head_dbg.js after that, all is well. -If we require module X from head_dbg.js first, and then als

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/05/14 12:56, Benoit Jacob wrote: > (*plug*) this might be useful reading: > https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/the-concepts-of-webgl/ Comedy. I just read that article, and thought "this article is awesomely useful." I then looked at the comments, and it turned out that the first comment is fr

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Benoit Jacob wrote: > WebGL is low-level and generalistic enough that it is not specifically a > "3d" graphics API. I prefer to call it a low-level or generalistic graphics > API. Fair, forgot about that argument. "webgles" or some such might be better then. Or en

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Benoit Jacob
2014-05-08 5:53 GMT-04:00 Anne van Kesteren : > It seems like you want to be able to do that going forward so you > don't have to maintain a large matrix forever, but at some point say > you drop the idea that people will want 1 and simply return N if they > ask for 1. Yes, that's what we agreed

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > We had a meeting about this today, and there is one big issue with my > proposal above. Because of the fact that extra dictionary members in the > contextOptions arguments are ignored, this means that UA engines which have > already shipped t

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Benoit Jacob wrote: > The "Implementations are free to return a context that implements a higher > version" part violates the above requirement 1. in your email, "The WebGL > working group wants web pages to opt in to the WebGL2 specific parts of the > functionality

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote: > On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:30:27 AM UTC-4, Henri Sivonen wrote: > >> >> In general, I'm worried about groups that are rather isolated and that >> have non-Web background members making decisions that go against the >> Web wisdom gained f

Re: Intent to implement: WebGL 2.0

2014-05-08 Thread khagaroth
webglex (to avoid the number) and make the version: N check mandatory for that? ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform