Re: The current state of WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS is untenable

2013-04-04 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: > Nicholas Nethercote writes: > >> Warnings about possibly dubious but common practices aren't much use. >> I gave up on turning on -Wshadow for this reason, > > If you could now use |index| as a variable name, would it be worth > revisiting -W

Re: The current state of WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS is untenable

2013-04-04 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Nicholas Nethercote writes: > Warnings about possibly dubious but common practices aren't much use. > I gave up on turning on -Wshadow for this reason, If you could now use |index| as a variable name, would it be worth revisiting -Wshadow? http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/changes.html

Re: The current state of WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS is untenable

2013-04-04 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Jeff Walden wrote: > On 04/04/2013 01:55 PM, Daniel Holbert wrote: >> MSVC C4244 is by far our spammiest MSVC warning -- it's already disabled >> in /js/src due to its low value::trouble ratio. > > Actually I think this is a mistake, one that we should fix at some p

Re: The current state of WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS is untenable

2013-04-04 Thread Jeff Walden
On 04/04/2013 01:55 PM, Daniel Holbert wrote: > MSVC C4244 is by far our spammiest MSVC warning -- it's already disabled > in /js/src due to its low value::trouble ratio. Actually I think this is a mistake, one that we should fix at some point. I have very little confidence that all of SpiderMon

Re: Replacing gcc 4.5 as the default Linux compiler?

2013-04-04 Thread Robert Kaiser
Mike Hommey schrieb: 4.8 is IMHO too young to even consider testing. Though its feature set seems to be quite helpful for us: http://lwn.net/Articles/543570/ Makes me think that we should at least experiment with it to make sure are issues we have with it will be fixed in a .1 or so and we'

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Jesse Ruderman
On 4/4/13 7:12 AM, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: On 13-04-03 23:05 , Jesse Ruderman wrote: I suggest adding an Auto branch between Try and Central. Advantages: [snip] * In Scenario D (when subtle patch interactions cause build or test failures), automation can move on to another set of Try landings,

Proposed W3C Charter: Web and TV Interest Group

2013-04-04 Thread L. David Baron
W3C is proposing a revised charter for the Web and TV Interest For more details, see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Mar/0008.html http://www.w3.org/2012/11/webTVIGcharter.html Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through Friday, April 26. Please rep

Proposed W3C Charters: groups within the XML activity

2013-04-04 Thread L. David Baron
W3C is proposing revised charters for a collection of working groups in the XML area: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Mar/0007.html http://www.w3.org/XML/2013/exi-charter.html http://www.w3.org/XML/2013/query-charter.html http://www.w3.org/XML/2013/xml-core-charter.html h

Proposed W3C Charter: Web Performance Working Group

2013-04-04 Thread L. David Baron
W3C is proposing a revised charter for the Web Performance Working Group. For more details, see: http://www.w3.org/2013/01/webperf.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Mar/.html Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through Thursday, April 11. Ple

Re: The current state of WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS is untenable

2013-04-04 Thread Daniel Holbert
MSVC C4244 is by far our spammiest MSVC warning -- it's already disabled in /js/src due to its low value::trouble ratio. Once the tree reopens, I'll be disabling it in the toplevel configure.in -- more info on that here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857863 (There doesn't seem to

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Gregory Szorc
On 4/4/13 8:07 AM, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: On 13-04-03 19:49 , Jesse Ruderman wrote: +1. But can we do this with rebased changesets instead of "trivial" merge changesets? While the core of hg can handle merges, pretty much none of the tools we rely on for understanding history (hg {log, grep, d

Fwd: NSPR/NSS/JSS migrated to HG and updated directory layout

2013-04-04 Thread Brian Smith
In addition to this change from CVS to Mercurial, the following changes will be made in mozilla-central the next time we update NSS: dbm/ will be moved security/nss/lib/dbm/ security/coreconf/ will be moved to security/nss/coreconf/ This should reduce some confusion about what parts of the tree

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
On 13-04-03 19:49 , Jesse Ruderman wrote: +1. But can we do this with rebased changesets instead of "trivial" merge changesets? While the core of hg can handle merges, pretty much none of the tools we rely on for understanding history (hg {log, grep, diff, bisect}) handle them well. Thinking

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
(Moving thread from from m.d.tree-managment to m.d.platform) On 13-04-03 19:03 , Jeff Hammel wrote: Without wanting to start a contraversy, is there a particular reason to use multiple trees here vs e.g. a checkin-needed flag on bugzilla or similar? I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting. A

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
On 13-04-03 23:05 , Jesse Ruderman wrote: I suggest adding an Auto branch between Try and Central. Advantages: [snip] * In Scenario D (when subtle patch interactions cause build or test failures), automation can move on to another set of Try landings, giving sheriffs time react without the pre

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread jmaher
the 325 jobs per push come from manually counting jobs on tbpl (ignoring pgo). remember to use showall=1. The total stats from gps include try which has much fewer test jobs per push and inbound coalescing. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platfo

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Neil
Gregory Szorc wrote: Here is the percent of total builder time we spent performing jobs broken down by tree: inbound 43.98% try 27.48% central 5.24% ... We have an inbound and try problem. After patches have passed try, do people then push them to inbound, because they don't want

Re: End of life for tinderbox.mozilla.org

2013-04-04 Thread Gervase Markham
On 03/04/13 15:32, Ed Morley wrote: > Agreed - TBPL's successor is going to be called something other than > TBPL2 (name chosen so far is treeherder). Surely then it should be called "Ent"? :-) Gerv ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozi

Re: Replacing gcc 4.5 as the default Linux compiler?

2013-04-04 Thread ishikawa
On (2013年04月04日 00:45), ISHIKAWA, Chiaki wrote: > Right now, I am running the compiled and linked DEBUG BUILD of TB > (comm-central) by invoking > "make mozmill" to test if anything unwanted my have crept in using "gold". After checking the session log, I don't think gcc-4.7 + gold produced any u

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-04 Thread Jesse Ruderman
On 4/3/13 10:45 PM, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: > On 13-04-03 19:49 , Jesse Ruderman wrote: > > But can we do this with rebased changesets instead of "trivial" merge > > changesets? While the core of hg can handle merges, pretty much none of > > the tools we rely on for understanding history (hg