Re: Backup Consensus? - added to list

2003-01-31 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya jason On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Jason Pepas wrote: > for what it's worth, here's what I use to backup. > > --- cut backup.marsala.sh --- > #!/bin/sh > > # jason pepas's backup script - see http://jason.pepas.com > # shell script tutorials: > # http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ > # http://

Re: list delay

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:15:29AM +1100, Michael Wardle wrote: > I've only recently subscribed to debian-user, and I notice that I > receive messages sent to the list 4 or 5 hours after they have been > sent. You must be new to the Internet. Email and news have no gauranteed delivery time. Be

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread Joris Huizer
Allright I've got sending mail working... but it doesn't look like email is received - I've installed mutt now (got to get used to the view) Were are the settings for receiving mail ?? Please tell which configuration to run and everything ! --- Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Mt Rainier Support?

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:50:55AM +1030, David Purton wrote: > I just bought a swish new cd-writer which claims to have Mt Rainier > support. Does anyone know of some good docs to get this working under > linux? What's the non-buzzword name for this? Bout as much as I know about Mt. Rainier is t

Re: Problem with /var/lib/dpkg/available, please help

2003-01-31 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, franck routier said: > Hi, > > after a power shortage, I now have a problem with > /var/lib/dpkg/available. > > When I run dpkg, it finds a parse error at line 1 : EOF after field " " > > I cannot install any new package and my system was left in an unstable > state

Re: [OT] /lib/i686/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found

2003-01-31 Thread Lukas Ruf
Hi Rob, * Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-31 01:46]: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:43:06PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: > > > > Compiling iptables-1.2.7a locally on that box there results in a very > > strange error message when trying to launch iptables afterwards: > > > > [root@localhost ipt

Re: OpenOffice 1.0.2 font ugliness

2003-01-31 Thread Chris Halls
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 11:12:29AM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:21:46AM -0800, Jeff wrote: > > Matt Price, 2003-Jan-27 12:22 -0500: > > > just upgraded to OpenOffice 1.0.2, and the fonts are _exceedingly_ > > > ugly, despite the fact that I installed the x-ttcidfont-conf as

Re: pppd on demand trouble

2003-01-31 Thread Kevin . Bewley
Hi, I seem to remember if you use DEMAND dialing you shouldn't use PERSIST and vice versa - one or the other only. Seems logical if you think about it.. Personally I use demand with an idle set for 10 minutes so that my ppp is dropped if I don't access the network for 10 minutes at a time.

X11 stability

2003-01-31 Thread S Yuval
Ever since I installed Debian, I have to hard boot at least 3 times a day, because X windows crashes and hangs the machine. This usually happens when the system is busy installing programs, or doing some other resource consuming job in one of the virtual consoles (X itself included), and I c

Re: Slang for money [was: Re: Backup Consensus?]

2003-01-31 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Pigeon [Wed, 29/01/2003 at 18:22 +] > > British phones had a # key on the keypad for several years before the > exchanges were upgraded to the point where you could actually do > anything with it. When this happened, the recorded help/instruction > messages were at something of a loss as to

Re: Mt Rainier Support?

2003-01-31 Thread nate
Paul Johnson said: > What's the non-buzzword name for this? Bout as much as I know about Mt. > Rainier is that it's a volcano you can see from Portland on a > "five mountain" or better (ie, clear enough with just enough heat > distortion that you can see five or more mountain peaks when it should

Re: Debian Configuration

2003-01-31 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 31 January 2003 07:17, nate wrote: > avnathan said: > > i)How to config a local printer (I dont find /etc/printcap file) ? > > for both local and remote printers I use cups. apt-cache search cups, > you'll need some print filters too. I use these packages: > > cupsys

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 12:17:28AM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: > Allright I've got sending mail working... but it > doesn't look like email is received - I've installed > mutt now (got to get used to the view) You need to install fetchmail. > Were are the settings for receiving mail ?? Please > t

Re: Debian Configuration

2003-01-31 Thread nate
David Goodenough said: > Would it not make sense for the install process for cups ask > whether to use printcat rather than printcap.cups. This seems > to cause lots of new users problems, and I can not think of > any particular reason not to use printcap. Surely this should > actually be the de

Re: if you could have just one dead tree book

2003-01-31 Thread Toens Bueker
Dan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh fellow debian-users, if you could have just one dead tree book > what would you ask for? The Practice of System and Network Administration Thomas A. Limoncelli, Christine Hogan ISBN 0-201-70271-1 Addison Wesley by Töns -- There is no safe distance.

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread tom-temp
> Were are the settings for receiving mail ?? Please > tell which configuration to run and everything ! Uhm... I'm quite the newbie-ish type myself, I need help quite often, but when I do, I mostly make sure I RTFM, search Google, search the archives of this mailing list and search in some relevan

Re: apt wickened up: Unable to purge package gdm2 ! (solved)

2003-01-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:41:58AM +0100, mi wrote: > # debconf is not a registry, so we only fiddle with the default file if it > # does not exist > if [ ! -e $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE ]; then > db_get shared/default-x-display-manager > if [ "$THIS_PACKAGE" != "$RET" ]; then > echo "Pl

Re: Problem with /var/lib/dpkg/available, please help

2003-01-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 07:49:28AM +0100, franck routier wrote: > Hi, > > after a power shortage, I now have a problem with > /var/lib/dpkg/available. Run 'dselect update' to replace that file with a fresh version. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UN

Re: problem with apt-get upgrade

2003-01-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 06:26:29PM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > It is almost certainly trying to upgrade dpkg on top of itself while > running. That's supported and quite OK. > The instructions at > > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-package.en.html#s6.2.9 > > helped me. Th

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread Robert Ian Smit
* Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [30-01-2003 23:25]: > I'd especially like to use pine because I really like > that prog but it doesn't handle smtp - so how should I > do this ? - Sending mail Configure exim to use a so-called smart-host. This means that all local mail gets delivered directly an

Re: X11 stability

2003-01-31 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Friday 31 January 2003 09:56, S Yuval wrote: > Also, I noticed that when the computer is idle, X shuts down automatically > after some period of time. How can I cancel this option? That sounds like a problem with power management. Try turning it off in the BIOS and see if the problem persists.

Re: System dies after logging out of an X session

2003-01-31 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Friday 31 January 2003 02:01, Marcin Chady wrote: > I had to install the drm-trunk-module-src_2002.12.05-5_all.deb and > xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk_2002.12.05-4_i386.deb from > http://dri.sourceforge.net for my Radeon 9000, which seems to have gone ok > since I do get the Xserver up, I can login

Re: pppd on demand trouble

2003-01-31 Thread Sean Burlington
Sigmund Svertingsson wrote: Greetings, all. I'm running Woody on an old Pentium box as my gateway/firewall/fileserver for my LAN here at Castillo del Lago (my home). Life is good here, and I'm really enjoying Debian, but I'm kind of stuck with the demand dialing thing. If I comment out the "

Re: X11 stability

2003-01-31 Thread Johan Ehnberg
In my experience, this sounds like a resource conflict. I've also had about the same problem with nVidia cards using old drivers. The fact that this problem was also in RedHat, would support my theory. I think your GFX card conflicts with your audio card (or some other card). Some specific acti

Re: devfsd and /dev/dsp

2003-01-31 Thread Francois Chenais
OK, thanks a lot. There is another strnge thing. /etc/init.d/alsa start says Starting ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0rc6): no sound cards defined. ??? Any idea ? François On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:36:27 -0500, Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > "Francois" == Fra

Re: Problem with /var/lib/dpkg/available, please help

2003-01-31 Thread franck routier
Hi, running 'dselect update' worked Thanks Colin ! Franck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: list delay

2003-01-31 Thread bob parker
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:15, Michael Wardle wrote: > Hi > > I've only recently subscribed to debian-user, and I notice that I > receive messages sent to the list 4 or 5 hours after they have been > sent. Among other things, this typically results in several identical > responses to a question, as su

Problem with default X fonts encoding

2003-01-31 Thread Radek Smidl
Hi, I am new in Debian and I have a problem with setting of a default fonts encoding in X. When I run xterm or other programs, iso8859-1 fonts are used. I know, I I can use for example: XTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 but is there some "debian" way, how to selec

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:43:10AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Moreover, several people told you that you need > (e.g.) fetchmail to poll your mails from your POP- > server. So guess what - install fetchmail! And read > the docs! I'm so glad when newbies start telling this to each other, mak

Re: exim and relaying -- for ONE user

2003-01-31 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 00:56, will trillich wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 06:10:52PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:09, will trillich wrote: As for your > > earlier post about the auth not working, have you checked to > > see if you have libpam-pwdfile installed? I jus

libs are not elf binaries ???

2003-01-31 Thread franck routier
Hi, I have the following problem, after an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from unstable on powerpc. Is this a problem on my system, or a problem with unstable (in which case I would file a bug report) : ldconfig: /usr/lib/libfam.so.0.0.0 is not an ELF binary - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start T

Re: Job `cron.weekly' terminated (mailing output) ???

2003-01-31 Thread Andrei Smirnov
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:15:04PM +, Dave Selby wrote: > My dial on demand link is activated when my cron.weekly job is terminated. > Nothing in cron.weekly calls the link ... It appears that when it terminates > cron.weekly mails the output or perhaps I should say cron mails the output?? >

Re: devfsd and /dev/dsp

2003-01-31 Thread Francois Chenais
OK, it works fine. But now, I have a right access error ! tanna:/mnt/others/MP3/sting# ls -al /dev/sound/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 1 1970 . drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 1 1970 .. crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14, 4 Jan 1 1970 audi

black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Gilberto Garcia Jr.
Hey,   I tried to install blackbox package from debian cd.   after install i tried to run it, but I´ve got an error     something like: X display not found, conect to X failed.     thanks iced sun

Gconf problem

2003-01-31 Thread franck routier
Hi, on a freshly installed laptop, installed via netinst tracking unstable, I am unable to start gnome. I get an error window stating : "There was an error starting GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or backgrounds settings may not work correctly. The Settings Daemon wa

Re: Mt Rainier Support?

2003-01-31 Thread David Purton
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 12:25:09AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:50:55AM +1030, David Purton wrote: > > I just bought a swish new cd-writer which claims to have Mt Rainier > > support. Does anyone know of some good docs to get this working under > > linux? > > What's the

Re: Slang for money [was: Re: Backup Consensus?]

2003-01-31 Thread Mark Janssen
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:59, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: > * Pigeon [Wed, 29/01/2003 at 18:22 +] > > > > British phones had a # key on the keypad for several years before the [snip] > > symbol. They mostly call it "hash" now. > In France, we call it the "sharp" key (dièse in French), coz the sign

OT: how to convert apple/mac .dmg to .iso images?

2003-01-31 Thread funky soul
hi everybody, i'm wondering if anybody knows how to convert .dmg CD images(?) created under MacOS to iso9660 images. i'd like to burn those images on CD with xcdroast or similar programs under linux. is there a program or a script that can do the conversion? apparently 'disk copy' for OS X can mak

Dual Lilo boot with Debian and RedHat

2003-01-31 Thread Andrej Prsa
Dear Debianists! I have a problem and I hope you can help me out! Yesterday I installed Debian Woody 3.0r1 on my laptop. I have been using RedHat 7.3 and I grew tired of things not working the way they should, so I decided to try Debian out. I have a 40Gb disk, which was completely under RedHat.

Re: Mt Rainier Support?

2003-01-31 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 31 January 2003 09:18, nate wrote: > Paul Johnson said: > > What's the non-buzzword name for this? Bout as much as I know about Mt. > > Rainier is that it's a volcano you can see from Portland on a > > "five mountain" or better (ie, clear enough with just enough heat > > distortion that

Dual Lilo boot with Debian and RedHat

2003-01-31 Thread Andrej Prsa
Dear Debianists! I have a problem and I hope you can help me out! Yesterday I installed Debian Woody 3.0r1 on my laptop. I have been using RedHat 7.3 and I grew tired of things not working the way they should, so I decided to try Debian out. I have a 40Gb disk, which was completely under RedHat.

Re: exim and relaying -- for ONE user

2003-01-31 Thread will trillich
5:05am? whassa matter, couldn't sleep? (that's *my* problem -- one of them, anyway...) On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 05:05:32AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > It's a very complicated and technical discovery process that I > have dubbed "guessing". :) (Actually, the best way is to use > exim -bh to test

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread tom-temp
Paul Johnson wrote: >> So guess what - install fetchmail! And read the docs! > > I'm so glad when newbies start telling this to each other, > makes me look less like a hardass. Or maybe it just makes those particular newbies look like arrogant hardasses, while you just remain known as a hardass,

Re: problem with apt-get upgrade

2003-01-31 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 06:26:29PM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > > It is almost certainly trying to upgrade dpkg on top of itself while > > running. > > That's supported and quite OK. > > > The instructions at > > > > http://qref.sourceforge.net/De

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Glyn Millington
"Gilberto Garcia Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey, Ho! > I tried to install blackbox package from debian cd. Good idea! > after install i tried to run it, but I´ve got an error > something like: X display not found, conect to X failed. You were running X at the time, right? You have X

Re: exim and relaying -- for ONE user

2003-01-31 Thread Ed Lawson
Pardon me for coming into the middle of this thread, but I now need to set up secure relaying on my stable box running Exim. If I read the messages back from the EHLO command correctly, the "regular" Exim package is not compiled with authentication options enabled. This means, does it not, th

Re: CDRW UDF file system scripts

2003-01-31 Thread Roy Pluschke
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:02:57 +0300 Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:38:14PM -0800, Roy Pluschke wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I recently patched my kernel so that I could use a CDRW as a > > regular file system for backup purposes. Right know I manually > Wh

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Re: Download installed .debs??

2003-01-31 Thread D.
--- Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:16:57AM -0800, Lars > Jensen wrote: > > How do I re-download copies installed .deb > packages that are already on > > my system? apt-get won't download a package that > is already installed. > > Well, there's apt-get --reinstall,

Re: Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-31 Thread Jens Grivolla
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kent> Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except > Kent> that the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered > Kent> to the left of where the actual click is made

Re: Dual Lilo boot with Debian and RedHat

2003-01-31 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Andrej Prsa [Fri, Jan 31 2003, 01:12:17PM]: > /dev/hda1 is RedHat's /boot > /dev/hda2 is RedHat's / > /dev/hda3 is Linux Swap > /dev/hda5 is Debian's / > > I used to have Grub to load RedHat, which has now been replaced with > Lilo in MBR. It boots Debian without any problems and now

Re: find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-31 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:48:14AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 29 Jan 2003 15:54:32 -0600, > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 10:28, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:51:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > > > hello all > > > > > > > > i am sure

Re: OT: how to convert apple/mac .dmg to .iso images?

2003-01-31 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:53, funky soul wrote: > i'm wondering if anybody knows how to convert .dmg CD images(?) created > under MacOS to iso9660 images. i'd like to burn those images on CD with > xcdroast or similar programs under linux. is there a program or a script > that can do the convers

Re: find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-31 Thread Ulf Rompe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > tcsh has a far more elegant (tm) approach to the problem. Typing > "ls" (or META-P) will get you only all the commands that > begin with "ls" (eliminating such oddities as "echo lst.txt"). If > somebody knows the precise bash equivalent of this, let me > know. As I wro

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Gilberto Garcia Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 09:41 AM -0200): > Hey, > > I tried to install blackbox package from debian cd. > > after install i tried to run it, but I´ve got an error > > > something like: X display not found, conect to X failed. This is a

[OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread Kevin . Bewley
Hi, I know this is slightly off-topic but it's definitely related to virtually all Un*xen I've ever come across. I have a colleague who has never used a *real* OS but now as part of his job he has to. A few times I've come across him doing things like find/replace over and over in nedit to chang

Re: pppd on demand trouble

2003-01-31 Thread Donald Spoon
Sigmund Svertingsson wrote: Greetings, all. I'm running Woody on an old Pentium box as my gateway/firewall/fileserver for my LAN here at Castillo del Lago (my home). Life is good here, and I'm really enjoying Debian, but I'm kind of stuck with the demand dialing thing. If I comment out the "

Gkrellm and app launcher

2003-01-31 Thread Francois Chenais
Hello, Is there any application launcher for GKrellm. Don't find one with apt-cache search ? François msg27620/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: starcraft on wine

2003-01-31 Thread Andrei Smirnov
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 10:57:40PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: > >a black screen > >and i didint found any solutions on winehq and such > > > >Here the situation: > >Debian 3.0 with 4.1.0 X > >craft runs under wine with sound but without graphics (with a black screen) > >... > >i tried to change bp

Re: Dual Lilo boot with Debian and RedHat

2003-01-31 Thread Kent West
Andrej Prsa wrote: /dev/hda1 is RedHat's /boot /dev/hda2 is RedHat's / /dev/hda3 is Linux Swap /dev/hda5 is Debian's / I used to have Grub to load RedHat, which has now been replaced with Lilo in MBR. It boots Debian without any problems and now I don't know how to boot back into RedHat. Mountin

Re: list delay

2003-01-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:36:01PM -0600, Jason Pepas wrote: > On Thursday 30 January 2003 06:15 pm, Michael Wardle wrote: > > Hi > > > > I've only recently subscribed to debian-user, and I notice that I > > receive messages sent to the list 4 or 5 hours after they have been > > sent. Among other

Re: Problem printing man pages (Correction)

2003-01-31 Thread Wayne Topa
Wayne Topa([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Colin Watson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:53:24AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > < > --snip fix from previous post --> > > > > > > > By the way, if you're actually printing man pages to paper (I'm

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Gilberto Garcia Jr.
Yes, I have X installed. I actually use enlightenment as X windows. but it´s to heavy, so I heard that blackbox is a very light weight windows manager. So i decide to test it out. well. i tried to install it this way: apt-get install blackbox #installed I log out from enlightenmet and tried to

Helvetica Printer Fonts

2003-01-31 Thread Bill Moseley
I have a testing/unstable machine with CUPS and a non-postscript printer (HP LaserJet 1100). When I print a calendar with Jpilot the fonts are really poor quality. The fonts look like an old dot matrix -- like it's about 50dpi. And indeed when I create a small postscript file as shown here:

Re: HDD clicking (Update)

2003-01-31 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Saturday 25 January 2003 11:33, Nicos Gollan wrote: > For some days now, I've been hearing repeated clicking sounds from my > harddisk, especially during I/O operations. First of all, thanks to those who answered, luckily there was and is nothing of value on that disk anyway, so I guess I'll k

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Glyn Millington
"Gilberto Garcia Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I´ve typed blackbox in console mode In your ~/.xinitrc file (or ~/.xsession file) put the line exec blackbox Then when you start X, blackbox should fire up! Glyn -- Debian Home http://www.debian.org Debian Planet http://www

Re: libs are not elf binaries ???

2003-01-31 Thread David Z Maze
franck routier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ldconfig: /usr/lib/libfam.so.0.0.0 is not an ELF binary - it has the > wrong magic bytes at the start In my experience, this generally indicates disk corruption. You might check the affected packages with debsums or just try to reinstall them. > This

[NEWBIE]: HP DeskJet 710c - installation problems

2003-01-31 Thread ketil V.
I am trying Debian for the first time, and can not find any support for my printer. In RedHat the printer is supported by the pnm2ppa - system, along with the 712, 720, 810 and 1000 - series, but I do not find this package in my Woody CD-set. Does anybody know where I can find the name of the D

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread Andrew Perrin
A standard is "Learning Perl" (http://www.bookpool.com/.x/h6ph9apwz1/sm/0596001320) ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andre

Re: OT: sometimes it's good to see the competition

2003-01-31 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 08:21:39AM +0100, Ruediger Noack wrote: > nate wrote: > >[something about Suse] > > > Here in Germany some people (especially Debian geeks) call Suse > "Nuernberger Windows"... ;-) > (Nuernberg is the name of the town where Suse comes from.) So where computers are concerned

Re: apt-get --compile source gcc-2.95: test suite failures

2003-01-31 Thread Pigeon
AARGH! Just ran the test suite on the "real" gcc-2.95, ie. the precompiled binary from the woody .deb ... IT GIVES THE SAME NUMBER OF UNEXPECTED FAILURES!!! So it looks as though I might as well go ahead and install the i686 version I've built, they seem to be equally "trustworthy"... or not...

Re: Setting up the mail program

2003-01-31 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Robert Ian Smit wrote: > * Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [30-01-2003 23:25]: > > I'd especially like to use pine because I really like > > that prog but it doesn't handle smtp - so how should I > > do this ? > > - Sending mail > Configure exim to use a

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 09:41:27AM -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote: > Hey, > > I tried to install blackbox package from debian cd. > > after install i tried to run it, but I?ve got an error > > > something like: X display not found, conect to X failed. You're not trying to run it from a tty a

Re: Gimp Print Problem

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas H. George
Thank you. :r file works beautifully. I knew it should be simple but somehow, though I searched the vi and mutt help files, I failed to find this command. On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 01:39:04PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: > On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 18:37, Thomas H. George wrote: > > I ran the error

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread tom-temp
Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote: > apt-get install blackbox > I´ve typed blackbox in console mode > > and got that error. Are you sure you aren't root anymore? I mean, to apt-get blackbox, you must've been - did you get back to your average-userness before trying to start blackbox? Regards, Tom -

Re: Gimp Print Problem

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas H. George
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:43:47PM -0500, Jerome Acks Jr wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 10:12:20AM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: > > The attachment is a segment of the /var/log/cups/error_log beginnig two > > lines before the first "false" result and continuing to the Ghostscript > > exit.

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Burkhard Ritter
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote: > Yes, I have X installed. I actually use enlightenment as X windows. but it´s > to heavy, so I heard that blackbox is a very light weight windows manager. > So i decide to test it out. > > well. i tried to install it this way: > > apt-get install

Re: ntpd not keeping time

2003-01-31 Thread Stephanie Boyd
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 02:50:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all. I've got this weird problem with ntpd. Up until now I've never > had ntpd fail me. But on this one box I've got the clock speeding up by 30 > minutes each day. I've got ntpd installed and configured properly with > work

Re: OT: how to convert apple/mac .dmg to .iso images?

2003-01-31 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:08:29PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: > Chances are that those images are the same thing as iso's with another > extension. To verify this, you could try to mount such an image locally with > type iso9660. If this works and you get a readable result, it's all fine. or to

Re: Debian Configuration

2003-01-31 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:41:27AM -0800, nate wrote: | David Goodenough said: | | > Would it not make sense for the install process for cups ask | > whether to use printcat rather than printcap.cups. This seems | > to cause lots of new users problems, and I can not think of | > any particular re

Re: list delay

2003-01-31 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:15:29AM +1100, Michael Wardle wrote: > Hi > > I've only recently subscribed to debian-user, and I notice that I > receive messages sent to the list 4 or 5 hours after they have been > sent. Among other things, this typically results in several identical > responses to a

Re: CDRW UDF file system scripts

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Roy Pluschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 05:31 AM -0800): > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:02:57 +0300 > Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:38:14PM -0800, Roy Pluschke wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I recently patched my kernel so

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 02:17 PM +): > Hi, >I know this is slightly off-topic but it's definitely related to > virtually all Un*xen I've ever come across. I have a colleague who has > never used a *real* OS but now as part of his job he ha

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread Sam Rosenfeld
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 02:17:12PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, >I know this is slightly off-topic but it's definitely related to > virtually all Un*xen I've ever come across. I have a colleague who has > never used a *real* OS but now as part of his job he has to. A few times > I've c

Re: X11 stability

2003-01-31 Thread nate
S Yuval said: > Ever since I installed Debian, I have to hard boot at least 3 times a day, > because X windows crashes and hangs the machine. This usually happens when > the system is busy installing programs, or doing some other resource > consuming job in one of the virtual consoles (X itself inc

Smart Array 5312

2003-01-31 Thread VEGH Karoly
I'd like to install woody on a machine woth a Compaq Smart Arry 5312 storage controller, but booting with kernel bf24 doesnt recognise the controller. I gave a try with redhat advanced server, and that saw it right. That depressed me quite much: with debian's bf24: a part of dmesg: Compaq CISS

Re: pppd on demand trouble

2003-01-31 Thread John Hasler
Donald Spoon writes: > One thing I have discovered in Debian to get Demand Dialing to work is > the need to change a file name in /etc/ppp/... you have to change > "no_ppp_on_boot" to "ppp_on_boot". Not true. demand dialing will work fine without that. ppp_on_boot just allows pppd to start at bo

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread Ken Januski
I remember reading a review of a book from Manning Publications I think a couple of years ago that was both an introduction to programming and to Perl. That might do the trick. O n Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, >I know this is slightly off-topic but it's definitel

Re: cdrecord freezes when burning data

2003-01-31 Thread Ric Otte
Bob, I tried your suggestion, but it didn't work. But then I got the idea to see if DMA affected it. So I turned off DMA by typing hdparm hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc And I was able to burn a couple of data cds. I reall don't know why this worked (or even what DMA is), and I'm going to see if this c

LaTex editor

2003-01-31 Thread ian
Hi all, I would like to know a good TEX editor...any recommendations? ian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dual Lilo boot with Debian and RedHat

2003-01-31 Thread nate
Andrej Prsa said: > I would be happy to attach RedHat's grub.conf if it'd help! mount the redhat / (or /boot if its a seperate partition) on debian, copy the kernel to debian's /boot directory edit /etc/lilo.conf and add an entry such as image=/boot/vmlinuz-suse label=suse root

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread DvB
Not sure what could be easier than the Camel... he might want to take a programming course. As to online tutorials, you might want to try perl.com I find the "Documentation" section to be a very good quick reference guide, most of the time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, >I know this is sl

Re: black box HELP

2003-01-31 Thread Robert Ewald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try debian# startx /usr/bin/blackbox from the console (your X server must be down). Greetings Robert Am Freitag, 31. Januar 2003 16:22 schrieb Gilberto Garcia Jr.: > Yes, I have X installed. I actually use enlightenment as X windows. but > it´s to

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Juranich
On 31 January 2003 at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can anyone recommend a book (or even better, and online tutorial set) for > this guy to learn basic PERL from. You know simple reg-ex's and the like? I cut my teeth on the Llama book (or alpaca, or whatever the heck that is) (http://www.ore

[WAS] pppd on demand problems...

2003-01-31 Thread Vittorio
PLEASE HELP! Having now hired a dsl line at home, I connected two Pentium PCs at home with a notebook functioning as a gateway server for the internet connection with 'pon dsl-provider demand idle 60' command through a rudimentary firewall (and a sshd session). Setting up the server I thought:

Re: Gkrellm and app launcher

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Francois Chenais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 03:38 PM +0100): > Is there any application launcher for GKrellm. > Don't find one with apt-cache search ? apt-get install gkrellmlaunch -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: System dies after logging out of an X session

2003-01-31 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-01-31 at 02:01, Marcin Chady wrote: > > I had to install the drm-trunk-module-src_2002.12.05-5_all.deb and > xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk_2002.12.05-4_i386.deb from > http://dri.sourceforge.net for my Radeon 9000, which seems to have gone ok > since I do get the Xserver up, I can login t

Re: cdrecord freezes when burning data

2003-01-31 Thread bob parker
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 03:09, Ric Otte wrote: > Bob, > > I tried your suggestion, but it didn't work. > But then I got the idea to see if DMA affected it. So I turned off DMA > by typing > > hdparm hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc > > And I was able to burn a couple of data cds. I reall don't know why > this wor

problems with soundcard

2003-01-31 Thread Aless
hi i have a sus a7v333 card with a c-media 8738 sound chip an i have debian woody running when i tri to install the sound drivers of alsa for mi card this happends: # modprobe snd-card-cmipci /lib/modules/2.2.20-idepci/misc/snd-timer.o: unresolved symbol waitqueue_lock /lib/modules/2.2.20-idepci/

Re: [OT] Learning PERL

2003-01-31 Thread burningclown
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Andrew Perrin wrote: > A standard is "Learning Perl" > (http://www.bookpool.com/.x/h6ph9apwz1/sm/0596001320) > Learning Perl is really good. I got through the first seven chapters (2nd edition) and then picked up the -Perl Cookbook- ... it makes a good complement and has l

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