Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On Wed, 2025-05-21 at 15:16 -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > It's not quite the same. What Dan is asking for is that each wiki > > page should identify when it was updated and for which named > > release(s) of Debian it is valid. So even if it's out of date it > >

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-22 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed May 21, 2025 at 5:01 PM BST, Greg wrote: >> Why propose yet again the exact thing I proposed upthread (that you >> required me to spell out with ludicrous explicitness and that you >> described as unhelpful), as if you've arrived at some epiphany? >

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed May 21, 2025 at 5:01 PM BST, Greg wrote: Why propose yet again the exact thing I proposed upthread (that you required me to spell out with ludicrous explicitness and that you described as unhelpful), as if you've arrived at some epiphany? What is your problem, anyway? I didn't think I

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread Peter Ehlert
ite the same. What Dan is asking for is that each wiki page should identify when it was updated and for which named release(s) of Debian it is valid. So even if it's out of date it may be useful to somebody, or it may be possible to deduce what's wrong for the current stable in some circums

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-20, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > ... I prefer ... the assumption to be that all > pages applied to the current stable release... Why propose yet again the exact thing I proposed upthread (that you required me to spell out with ludicrous explicitness and that you described as unhelpful),

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> 4) You want to rewrite not only the WIKI CONTENT, but the WIKI ENGINE too. I really appreciate your constructive contributions, thank you. Stefan

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-21, john doe wrote: Then refrain from prolonging it.

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread john doe
please stop this. -- John Doe

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
t actually become obsolete with a new Debian release. > >The number of incompatible changes in a new release is usually > >pretty small. > > > > 2) Re-creating the *entire* wiki every time there's a new release is > >a stupidly ridiculous amount

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
ually >pretty small. > > 2) Re-creating the *entire* wiki every time there's a new release is >a stupidly ridiculous amount of effort. Not just the initial act >of moving creating a whole new versioned page for every existing >nonversioned page -- which

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
ore amenable to crowdsourcing. I have multiple problems with this proposal. 1) Most pages don't actually become obsolete with a new Debian release. The number of incompatible changes in a new release is usually pretty small. 2) Re-creating the *entire* wiki every time there's

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
s remain valid and which parts should be dropped or updated? That's a lot of work, and the whole point of the wiki is to crowdsource that kind of work from the users of the site, but that isn't compatible with the need to do it right when a release takes place. In contrast my propositio

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread debian-user
"Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Tue May 20, 2025 at 4:04 PM BST, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> FWIW I didn't find "keep it up to date" useful feedback. > > > > Here's my view: replace each current page with a list of "per Debian > > version" pages. So, when someone edits a page, they don't edit the

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue May 20, 2025 at 4:04 PM BST, Stefan Monnier wrote: FWIW I didn't find "keep it up to date" useful feedback. Here's my view: replace each current page with a list of "per Debian version" pages. So, when someone edits a page, they don't edit the "DebianBootstrap" page, but the "DebianBoot

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread debian-user
generally have paid staff. It used to be they were paid by people buying printed copies; nowadays they're paid from advertising or subscriptions or whatever. The big exception is Wikipedia and even that has regular donation campaigns. The Debian wiki is edited by volunteers, and apart from

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Joe
On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:56:05 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon May 19, 2025 at 2:03 PM BST, Greg wrote: > > On 2025-05-16, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Thu May 15, 2025 at 2:33 PM BST, Dan Ritter wrote: > >>> The most prominent issue I can see is that there is no unified > >>> sens

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-20, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> FWIW I didn't find "keep it up to date" useful feedback. > > Here's my view: replace each current page with a list of "per Debian > version" pages. So, when someone edits a page, they don't edit the > "DebianBootstrap" page, but the "DebianBootstrap/trixie"

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
don't edit the > "DebianBootstrap" page, but the "DebianBootstrap/trixie" page. That sounds like a LOT of extra work for the editors. Asking the editors to do additional work is probably not a good idea. There's already a huge shortage of labor/time being put into

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> FWIW I didn't find "keep it up to date" useful feedback. Here's my view: replace each current page with a list of "per Debian version" pages. So, when someone edits a page, they don't edit the "DebianBootstrap" page, but the "DebianBootstrap/trixie" page. The "DebianBootstrap" page would presu

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
ed to keeping everything current, > >> so how about having a "last updated" or "last reviewed" date on each > >> page so people would have an idea of how current that page is. > > > > The wiki engine automatically displays a "last modified"

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > The wiki engine automatically displays a "last modified" timestamp > (it's at the bottom, in the light gray footer box), but you won't > immediately know whether that update was a major content rewrite, or a > typo correction. More useful might be

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg
pdated" or "last reviewed" date on each >> page so people would have an idea of how current that page is. > > The wiki engine automatically displays a "last modified" timestamp (it's > at the bottom, in the light gray footer box), but you won

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
gt; page so people would have an idea of how current that page is. The wiki engine automatically displays a "last modified" timestamp (it's at the bottom, in the light gray footer box), but you won't immediately know whether that update was a major content rewrite, or a typo correction.

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Lee
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 9:31 AM Greg wrote: > > On 2025-05-20, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> > >> That's what I said more succinctly. Keep the wikis up to date (I thought > >> it went without saying "for Debian stable," though there's always a > >> myriad of ways to be misunderstood but normally on

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-20, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> >> That's what I said more succinctly. Keep the wikis up to date (I thought >> it went without saying "for Debian stable," though there's always a >> myriad of ways to be misunderstood but normally only one way to be so). > > FWIW I didn't find "keep it up

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon May 19, 2025 at 2:03 PM BST, Greg wrote: On 2025-05-16, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu May 15, 2025 at 2:33 PM BST, Dan Ritter wrote: The most prominent issue I can see is that there is no unified sense of chronology. That is, I can look at a page and not have any idea whether it is cor

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-19 Thread debian-user
o be so). It's not quite the same. What Dan is asking for is that each wiki page should identify when it was updated and for which named release(s) of Debian it is valid. So even if it's out of date it may be useful to somebody, or it may be possible to deduce what's wrong for the curr

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-19 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-16, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu May 15, 2025 at 2:33 PM BST, Dan Ritter wrote: >> The most prominent issue I can see is that there is no unified >> sense of chronology. That is, I can look at a page and not have >> any idea whether it is correct for current Stable. That's what I s

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-15, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > It's less clear how useful the current wiki is for users. I think many > of us are inspired by how good the Arch Wiki is for users, and the > Debian wiki falls far short of that. I guess we should try to improve it > for user

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 5/15/25 03:52, Jonathan Dowland wrote: It's less clear how useful the current wiki is for users. I think many of us are inspired by how good the Arch Wiki is for users, and the Debian wiki falls far short of that. I guess we should try to improve it for users, but we don't have

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Joe
; > are not specific to a distribution, as evidenced by the fact that > > Debian users often find the Arch wiki useful. > > I agree that the Debian Wiki should strive to document > Debian-specific stuff. I recently deleted (sort-of) the page > DotFiles¹, after a brief discus

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 15, 2025 at 2:33 PM BST, Dan Ritter wrote: The most prominent issue I can see is that there is no unified sense of chronology. That is, I can look at a page and not have any idea whether it is correct for current Stable. Thank you. That is useful feedback, and I agree that we should

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 15, 2025 at 5:45 PM BST, Stefan Monnier wrote: one of the problems I see in the world of GNU/Linux is this tendency to have "per-distribution" documentation for thing which are not specific to a distribution, as evidenced by the fact that Debian users often find the Arch w

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/05/2025 15:52, Jonathan Dowland wrote: FYI, some of us have recently re-started an effort to improve the Debian Wiki. One of the things we need to establish (IMHO) is to determine what audience the wiki is *for*. For example, it serves a useful function for Developers, with clusters of

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-15 Thread rhkramer
fic to > a distribution, +1 > as evidenced by the fact that Debian users often find > the Arch wiki useful. > I wish the Arch wiki and Debian wiki (and others, obviously) could > *share* their effort somehow. They can, even if the Arch wiki people would not want to cooperate (whi

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
is good, and >> although not universally applicable to Debian packages, can be a >> decent guide. > > FYI, some of us have recently re-started an effort to improve the Debian > Wiki. One of the things we need to establish (IMHO) is to determine what > audience the wiki is

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-15 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, May 15, 2025 09:33:27 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > on every single page. The right thing for the Debian Wiki would > be: > > Documentation → Debian 12 Bookworm > Stable Version: 12 Bookworm > Long Term Support Version: 11 Bullseye > Unsupported Versions: 10 / 9 / 8 /

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > FYI, some of us have recently re-started an effort to improve the Debian > Wiki. One of the things we need to establish (IMHO) is to determine what > audience the wiki is *for*. For example, it serves a useful function for > Developers, with clusters

Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

2025-05-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
be a decent guide. FYI, some of us have recently re-started an effort to improve the Debian Wiki. One of the things we need to establish (IMHO) is to determine what audience the wiki is *for*. For example, it serves a useful function for Developers, with clusters of pages for Debconfs, summers of

Re: Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

2024-12-03 Thread Steve McIntyre
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki >> discussions? >> >> Here are some resources, but I cannot find contact info

Re: Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

2024-12-03 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 08:37:24PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki > > discussions? > > > > Her

Re: Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

2024-12-03 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki > discussions? > > Here are some resources, but I cannot find contact info or a mailing list. > >* List

Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

2024-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki discussions? Here are some resources, but I cannot find contact info or a mailing list. * List of mailing lists: <https://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html> * Debian wiki: <https://wiki.d

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: >Franco Martelli wrote: >> On 25/07/24 at 15:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > Yeah... I have to use a Private window (Firefox) or an Incognito >> > window (Chrome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser >> > se

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread debian-user
Franco Martelli wrote: > On 25/07/24 at 15:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Yeah... I have to use a Private window (Firefox) or an Incognito > > window (Chrome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser > > sessions where I'm logged in to the wiki, I don'

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Franco Martelli
On 25/07/24 at 15:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: Yeah... I have to use a Private window (Firefox) or an Incognito window (Chrome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser sessions where I'm logged in to the wiki, I don't get that result. When in editing mode by clicking &

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
ome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser sessions where I'm logged in to the wiki, I don't get that result.

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/07/2024 19:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 18:54:38 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=recall&rev=32 [...] I can't quite guess what "text has no left margin" means here. Firefox-115, see the attachment. Notice that "General",

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
looks fine, while some of you are seeing... I don't know what. I can't quite guess what "text has no left margin" means here. Oh -- if I do it in a Chrome Incognito window, I get different results. So, I guess being logged in to the wiki changes the HTML just enough to work a

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/07/2024 10:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 09:50:43 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=raw&rev=33 has one empty line after "<>" while rev=22 has 2 empty lines and it may be more significant than a space before "<<". I assume y

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
s article has an extra space in the translations line causing > extra indentation due to rather weird markup > > I don't touch the translation stuff. Whatever the Debian translation team wants to do, I let them do it. If the wiki markup for the translations table is broken, someone

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/07/2024 02:05, Franco Martelli wrote: I'm using firefox-esr version: 115.13.0esr-1~deb12u1 Here I see the TOC not indented (no space before << tag): https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=raw Here instead I see the TOC indented (a space before << tag): https://wiki.debian.org

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Franco Martelli
On 24/07/24 at 20:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/Permissions?action=raw here there's a space before the << tag and, as I said, clicking on the "Preview" button when in edit mode, it didn't help. Well, the table of contents is indented on that page as well. It sounds like you'

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 20:08:08 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 24/07/24 at 15:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Could anybody tell me what I did wrong? > > You had a leading space before the << tag. That caused the TOC to be > > indented. I removed that. > > Oh, Thank you very much Greg, what

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Franco Martelli
On 24/07/24 at 15:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: Could anybody tell me what I did wrong? You had a leading space before the << tag. That caused the TOC to be indented. I removed that. Oh, Thank you very much Greg, what confused me it was the page that I took as reference: https://wiki.debian.or

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 15:19:29 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables > > The trouble is that the page has lost indentation, the text begins on the > left side of the page. The only part that was indented was the table of contents itself. I fixed that. >

Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi, I've added <> (the index of all paragraphs inside the wiki page) directive to this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables The trouble is that the page has lost indentation, the text begins on the left side of the page. In addition when I'm in editing

Re: $USER vs. $LOGNAME and the EnvironmentVariables wiki page

2024-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
better for that purpose. For most purposes, it is better to use LOGNAME, precisely because this lets the user specify the value. The following man page is explicitly linked from the wiki page environ(7) § NOTES: The HOME, LOGNAME, SHELL, and USER variables are set when the user is change

Re: $USER vs. $LOGNAME and the EnvironmentVariables wiki page

2024-03-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > Hi, > > 1. Using CodeSearch, it is not clear to me when to use one or the other. Your original Subject: header mentions $USER and $LOGNAME so I assume you're asking about these. $LOGNAME is the standard variable which is set by th

$USER vs. $LOGNAME and the EnvironmentVariables wiki page

2024-03-25 Thread Patrice Duroux
Hi, 1. Using CodeSearch, it is not clear to me when to use one or the other. 2. Would it be nice if the EnvironmentVariables page were linked to a new page named EnvironmentVariablesList (the same way as DotFiles and DotFilesList)? Best, Patrice

Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> >>> how do i access the debian wiki >>> https://wiki.debian.org/ >>>

Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > how do i access the debian wiki > > https://wiki.debian.org/ > > all i get is > > > > > > > > >

Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> how do i access the debian wiki >> https://wiki.debian.org/ >> all i get is >> >> >> >> >> Forbidden >> >> You are

Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how do i access the debian wiki > https://wiki.debian.org/ > all i get is > > > > > Forbidden > > You are not allowed to access this! > Check your firewall, proxies or other items

Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how do i access the debian wiki > https://wiki.debian.org/ > all i get is > > > > > Forbidden > > You are not allowed to access this! >From <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/FAQ

Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread Marco Moock
Am 05.03.2024 um 16:15:20 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > how do i access the debian wiki > https://wiki.debian.org/ > all i get is Works for me. -- Gruß Marco Send spam to 1709651720mu...@cartoonies.org

how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread fxkl47BF
how do i access the debian wiki https://wiki.debian.org/ all i get is Forbidden You are not allowed to access this!

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
g...@wooledge.org wrote: >On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 07:40:46AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: >> >> I was able to successfully change my password and update my Wiki home >> page a little while ago. It has been a long time since I created the >> account and don't

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-28 Thread Luna Jernberg
Snapd. That is going to cause > trouble for users who remove Snapd, and still use *.deb packages. I > expect some users will want to move from the other distro to Debian. > > Two of the wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are > <https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome&

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Peter Ehlert
dated since it's last edit on December 24,2019 Who does that? You do. That's what a wiki is. "Account creation failed: Automatic account creation disabled to stop spammers signing up. Please contact w...@debian.org and describe what you want to do in the wiki. Please contact us i

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 26 Aug 07:57 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 07:40:46AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2023 26 Aug 07:13 -0500, Anssi Saari wrote: > > > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > > > > > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing i

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:29:02AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:15 AM Dan Ritter wrote: [...] > > The basic problem with popcon is that it is opt-in, and nobody > > who is at all privacy conscious opts-in. > > > > (I fully support this decision. It is absolutely corr

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:15 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Popularity Contest (https://popcon.debian.org/) would be good to > > consult. But it looks like something is sideways. It does not provide > > usage statistics for packages like kde-full and gnome. I'm getting the > >

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Peter Ehlert
er 24,2019 Who does that? You do. That's what a wiki is. "Account creation failed: Automatic account creation disabled to stop spammers signing up. Please contact w...@debian.org and describe what you want to do in the wiki. Please contact us in English, otherwise we will have to

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 07:40:46AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2023 26 Aug 07:13 -0500, Anssi Saari wrote: > > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > > > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > > > but may only be done through an a

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 26 Aug 07:13 -0500, Anssi Saari wrote: > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > > but may only be done through an account (apparently I have one and now > > have to figure out how to reset my passwor

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Anssi Saari
Nate Bargmann writes: > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > but may only be done through an account (apparently I have one and now > have to figure out how to reset my password). Good for you. I tried creating an account but after putting in name

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 25 Aug 23:57 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 3:50 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:26:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > Two of the wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are > > > &l

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2023-08-26 at 00:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I'm getting the > message, "No Popularity contest entry for kde-full" (and friends). I > use kde-full and I have popularity contest enabled, so there should be > at least one entry. Perhaps because they're metapackages? -- Tixy

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 3:50 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:26:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Two of the wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are > > <https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome> and <https://wiki.debian.org/KDE>.

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Bret Busby
er 24,2019 Who does that? You do. That's what a wiki is. :) .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
does that? You do. That's what a wiki is.

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Peter Ehlert
On August 25, 2023 12:49:44 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:26:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Two of the wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are <https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome> and <https://wiki.debian.org/KDE>. It would be helpful i

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:26:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Two of the wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are > <https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome> and <https://wiki.debian.org/KDE>. > > It would be helpful if folks with Gnome and KDE experien

Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

2023-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are <https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome> and <https://wiki.debian.org/KDE>. It would be helpful if folks with Gnome and KDE experience would look over the articles and provide corrections and updates. Jeff

Re: Debian Wiki IP Address Unban Request

2023-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 05:02:22PM -0400, Oliver Wenston wrote: > I purchased a vps to use as my vpn server, and found out that it was black > listed from the https://wiki.debian.org/ website. I am currently using > Bookworm, and would love to be able to visit the wiki with my vpn. >

Debian Wiki IP Address Unban Request

2023-08-22 Thread Oliver Wenston
Dear Debian mailing list, I purchased a vps to use as my vpn server, and found out that it was black listed from the https://wiki.debian.org/ website. I am currently using Bookworm, and would love to be able to visit the wiki with my vpn. Who should I contact next on a private channel to get my

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-16 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: Me Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 19:23:26 +0200 Message-id: <[🔎] 568e7aa9-e061-194a-13f8-8e2379f69...@nodatagrabbing.com> In-reply-to: <[🔎] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> References: <[🔎] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> and

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 15 juin 2023, 20:15 de m...@nodatagrabbing.com: > Although I have never used it myself (I am 100% a vim and by extension a > vimwiki person) > +1 for vimwiki. > I know someone who used (not sure if he still does) Basket Notes > (https://basket-notepads.github.io/) and loves it. > In that ca

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Me
On 2023-06-15 12:54, Susmita/Rajib wrote: My dear illustrious Leaders of the Debian-user List and Senior List Members, There is Wiki.js but a Debian package for wiki.js isn't available. Then there is libreoffice-wiki-publisher in Debian, the LibreOffice extension for working with Medi

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Dan Ritter
vofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> > > [ ... ] > > emacs ? > > Thank you, Mr. Verdier, for replying to my post. > > So far as I am aware, text editors like Gedit, Vim, Emacs, Sublime > Text, et al, will not provide a WYSIWYG editing experien

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Susmita/Rajib
... ] > emacs ? Thank you, Mr. Verdier, for replying to my post. So far as I am aware, text editors like Gedit, Vim, Emacs, Sublime Text, et al, will not provide a WYSIWYG editing experience like a word processor. One'll need to manually apply the wiki formatting tags to achieve the

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread 황병희
On Thu, 2023-06-15 at 13:54 +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2023-06-15, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > > I require a WYSIWYG editor. Zim is one. But I also need another > > supporting editor to further polish up files. > > emacs ? > +1; emacs is good! Also i use emacs very heavy ^^^ Sincerely, -

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-06-15, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > I require a WYSIWYG editor. Zim is one. But I also need another > supporting editor to further polish up files. emacs ?

Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Susmita/Rajib
My dear illustrious Leaders of the Debian-user List and Senior List Members, There is Wiki.js but a Debian package for wiki.js isn't available. Then there is libreoffice-wiki-publisher in Debian, the LibreOffice extension for working with MediaWiki articles. But files created with zim

Re: CPU Microcode - Debian Wiki

2023-01-10 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/10/23 13:12, Dan Ritter wrote: Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Hi all! I've just read Debian's Wiki page about CPU Microcode and there are mentioned Intel's and AMD's processors for AMD64 architecture. What is the situation with processors from other architectures (arm64

Re: CPU Microcode - Debian Wiki

2023-01-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > Hi all! > > I've just read Debian's Wiki page about CPU Microcode and there are > mentioned Intel's and AMD's processors for AMD64 architecture. > > What is the situation with processors from other architectures > (arm64/A

CPU Microcode - Debian Wiki

2023-01-10 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
Hi all! I've just read Debian's Wiki page about CPU Microcode and there are mentioned Intel's and AMD's processors for AMD64 architecture. What is the situation with processors from other architectures (arm64/AArch64 for example)? - do they have microcode? - can micr

Re: Debian wiki update: ask for review

2022-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:03:16 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: > I made a few modifications based on your comments: > https://wiki.debian.org/GRUB2?action=diff&rev2=28&rev1=27 > > Hope it is clear now. Much better, thank you. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https:/

Re: Debian wiki update: ask for review

2022-12-01 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 01/12/2022 à 18:14, Charles Curley a écrit : On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 16:07:53 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: I have just updated the GRUB2 page on the wiki to briefly explain how GRUB2 should be configured in case of software RAID [1]. As I am not an expert nor an English native, could someone have a

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