Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 17:05:54 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-01-13, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > >> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > >> over Debia

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-13, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: >> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over >> Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" >>

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 16:56:05 (+), Glenn English wrote: > Has anyone in this thread mentioned DNS yet? Quoting RFC 1178: “There is always room for an exception. “I don't think any explanation is needed here. However, let me add that if you later decide to change a name (to someth

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Glenn English
Has anyone in this thread mentioned DNS yet? -- Glenn English

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over > Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > [...] People use names, computers like numbers. &g

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Some people always seem to remain confused. Perhaps they have > > the same confusion with timezones, for similar reasons. > > Both are confusing. One, Debian has the possibility to improve. Yes, we could "improve". But for many of us that doesn't

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 03:03:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote: Which reason? The formal name of a release is the Release number. And yet our sources.list files all contain deb stretch main and not deb 9 main And I had to look up "9" in that wiki page to even make this point. The page

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 13-01-2018, at 09h 07'58", bw wrote about "Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright w

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, January 13, 2018 09:07:58 AM bw wrote: > It is a good point, however have you considered the effect of a visual > association along with a word and a number? For instance, everytime I > think of debian "stretch" i see a purple octopus. For "buster" I see a > yapping little dachshund

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread bw
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > > over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > > [...] People use names, computers like num

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > [...] People use names, computers like numbers. > I do not take sides here, but I can't accept this statement. Numbers are

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 12, 2018 04:03:25 PM David Wright wrote: > Another reason: it's a convention that organisations use > because it works. It's less ambiguous to write jessie than 8 > especially in contexts where lots of numbers are being discussed, > and it's more memorable to most people. People

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread David Wright
When a release becomes ancient history, its code name still applies to it and the all its point releases, whatever numbering scheme is then in force. > but that doesn't carry over into "casual" conversation like the > parent thread or the repo urls etc. No, for several reason

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating > > for me, and > > I suspect I am not the only one. The numbered versions, the Toy > > Story names,

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 12, 2018 09:01:34 AM Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating > > > for me, and > > > I suspect I

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating for me, > and > I suspect I am not the only one. The numbered versions, the Toy Story names, > and then the testing, stable, old stable, old old stable is jus

Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread rhkramer
Intentionally cross posted. On Friday, January 12, 2018 04:58:38 AM Richard Hector wrote: > Apologies for my misunderstanding. I hadn't made the mental link from > wheezy to LTS (I don't (think I) have any wheezy machines left myself, > but have acquired clients who do). Aside: For those on the d

Re: 32bit compatibility for NVidia binary drivers in wheezy backports

2015-02-19 Thread Aleksandar Dimitrov
> And that's not impossible. libgl1-nvidia-glx depend on > xserver-xorg-video-nvidia. > And xserver-xorg-video-nvidia is not Multiarch-aware, i.e. you cannot > co-install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia:i386 and > xserver-xorg-video-nvidia:amd64 at the same time. It seems this problem has been fixed in

Re: 32bit compatibility for NVidia binary drivers in wheezy+backports

2015-02-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:41:54 +0100 Aleksandar Dimitrov wrote: > But if I try to install the 32 bit compatibility package from multiarch… > > > % aptitude install -t wheezy-backports nvidia-kernel-dkms:i386 Are you sure that you need to do this? This will install DKMS'

32bit compatibility for NVidia binary drivers in wheezy+backports

2015-02-15 Thread Aleksandar Dimitrov
Hi list, I'm trying to install the NVidia binary package in Debian wheezy from wheezy-backports on a 64bit system — which went fine. I've added multiarch: > % dpkg --print-architecture > amd64 > > % dpkg --print-foreign-architectures > i386 But if I try to install

Several dracut problems (keymap, luks passphrase, resume from hibernate) in wheezy(-backports)

2015-01-12 Thread Aleksandar Dimitrov
contains an lvm volume with swap (and another partition.) Lots of things happened, I'm going to try to summarize: I'm using wheezy with wheezy backports. Installing kernel 3.16.0 (suspend and hibernate don't work for me in 3.2.0) pulled in dracut. Out of the box, dracut's ini

Re: Possible incompatibility between wheezy gnome and wheezy-backports libreoffice

2014-12-29 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Sorry, I was too fast: 1:4.3.3-2~bpo70+2 didn't make it yet to the repositories, so I was simply repeating the same thing. Will get for this fix before trying again upgrading. Thanks to all who responded. Cheers, Miguel El 28/12/14 a las 22:37, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía escribió: > > Hi, > >

Re: Possible incompatibility between wheezy gnome and wheezy-backports libreoffice

2014-12-28 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/28/14, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: > > Hi, > > Not true in the case that I reported. Even after apt-get update, I get > the same messages and gnome is marked to be removed... Looks like a > different problem that the one found by Chris. Some of this, *not all*, but some of this I found t

Re: Possible incompatibility between wheezy gnome and wheezy-backports libreoffice

2014-12-28 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Hi, Not true in the case that I reported. Even after apt-get update, I get the same messages and gnome is marked to be removed... Looks like a different problem that the one found by Chris. Cheers, Miguel El 28/12/14 a las 19:17, Sven Joachim escribió: > On 2014-12-28 18:40 +0100, Chris Swe

Re: Possible incompatibility between wheezy gnome and wheezy-backports libreoffice

2014-12-28 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-12-28 18:40 +0100, Chris Swenson wrote: > I'm having the same issue with libreoffice. I cannot upgrade it because > it is looking for libc6 >= 2.19, which is unavailable. It appears it was > compiled with libc6 at this version instead of the one available in > debian (2.13-38+deb7u6). Perh

Re: Possible incompatibility between wheezy gnome and wheezy-backports libreoffice

2014-12-28 Thread Chris Swenson
I'm having the same issue with libreoffice. I cannot upgrade it because it is looking for libc6 >= 2.19, which is unavailable. It appears it was compiled with libc6 at this version instead of the one available in debian (2.13-38+deb7u6). Perhaps we should contact the libreoffice maintainers? -- –

Possible incompatibility between wheezy gnome and wheezy-backports libreoffice

2014-12-28 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Hi, I'm using debian wheezy (amd64) up-to-date till December 24. I have installed some packages from wheezy-backports, essentially libreoffice. I made an upgrade this morning and I got these messages (that I didn't look into at the time...): > sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package

Re: Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
lable from another source > > E: Package 'libavutil52' has no installation candidate > E: Package 'libavcodec-extra-54' has no installation candidate > > I think something must be seriously broken ... I see wheezy-backports has libavcodec-extra-55 and libavutil53

Re: Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Thanks very much for the explanation, Anderei, On 09/12/14 10:42, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > I can't spot anything wrong in here. A "bigger hammer" approach would be > to do this > > apt-get install -t wheezy-backports vlc vlc-nox libvlccore7 > > If th

Re: Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 10:28:01, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > tony@tony-fr:~$ sudo apt-cache policy > [sudo] password for tony: Note: apt-cache doesn't require root privileges, since it only provides information > Package files: > 100 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-

Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Apologies to Andrei -- inadvertently sent by mail: Original Message Subject: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:16:47 +0100 From: Tony van der Hoff To: Andrei POPESCU On 09/12/14 00:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 08 dec 14, 17:30

Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 08 dec 14, 17:30:44, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > root@tony-fr:~# apt-get -t wheezy-backports install vlc > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you h

Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/08/2014 11:30 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install a recent VLC on my wheezy box, but: root@tony-fr:~# apt-get -t wheezy-backports install vlc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be inst

Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-08 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, I'm trying to install a recent VLC on my wheezy box, but: root@tony-fr:~# apt-get -t wheezy-backports install vlc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impos

Re: MATE Desktop 1.8 from wheezy-backports

2014-10-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 08 October 2014 17:07:37 Giorgos Savvas wrote: > On 08/10/2014 15:14, Pol Hallen wrote: > >> What is the recommended way for switching to wheezy-backports and MATE > >> 1.8? This is what I'm thinking: > > > > using: > > > > # wheezy st

Re: MATE Desktop 1.8 from wheezy-backports

2014-10-08 Thread Giorgos Savvas
On 08/10/2014 15:14, Pol Hallen wrote: What is the recommended way for switching to wheezy-backports and MATE 1.8? This is what I'm thinking: using: # wheezy stable deb http://ip/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://ip/debian-security stable/updates main contrib non-free ap

MATE Desktop 1.8 from wheezy-backports

2014-10-08 Thread Giorgos Savvas
and it was recommended to use MATE 1.8 from wheezy-backports instead. What is the recommended way for switching to wheezy-backports and MATE 1.8? This is what I'm thinking: 1. Add wheezy-backports to sources.list: deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main 2. apt-get update

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-05 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Andrei POPESCU writes: > > On my stable install where new packages haven't been cleared in a while > (179 in total) I have only 2 new packages that do *not* come from > backports (icedove-l10n-hr and icedove-l10n-hy-am). > > Actually I'm quite surprised about these two even showing up, given tha

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
enated ones) is a pain to remember with rarely-used or new commands. I used to get certain options wrong reguilarly when I first started using systemctl... >> I don't understand why you wouldn't want to restrict the search to >> wheezy-backports. If the OP only wants to see new wh

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
this option before! Oh, thanks for spotting it, I wrote that from memory (shame on me). > I don't understand why you wouldn't want to restrict the search to > wheezy-backports. If the OP only wants to see new wheezy-backports > packages, why should his search be cluttered up wi

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
ry but I've never tried it even though I've often wondered about it... The "forget-new" verb clears up my question(s). By the way, it's "aptitude forget-new", without the hyphens. I'd never noticed this option before! I don't understand why you wouldn&#x

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 mai 14, 00:32:55, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > If you are much lazier, just > bump apt preferences to make them automatically installed. See: > > $ man apt_preferences This is however not supported and not recommended. https://lists.debian.org/20140427123500.ga2...@formorer.de Kind regards,

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 11:28:22PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I have added to my sources.list the following line: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main > > But according to http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/, that won't > make

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 03 mai 14, 23:28:22, Paul E Condon wrote: > I have added to my sources.list the following line: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main > > But according to http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/, that won't > make the backport appear in i

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 04 mai 14, 04:01:25, Tom H wrote: > > I've never used this search term but aptitude has a search for new > packages. I assume that a package is somehow marked as new after > "apt-get update" or "aptitude update". New means packages not previously existing in *any* repository, so in the co

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I have added to my sources.list the following line: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main > > But according to http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/, that won't > make the backport appe

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread filip
ccation when I actually need a backport. > > TIA For a list of all the packages in the backports repository: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/allpackages When you have the repository in /etc/apt/sources.list, and you want to check if there is a newer version of a particular package, u

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-03 Thread Erick Ocrospoma
On 4 May 2014 01:22, Tom Furie wrote: > On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 11:28:22PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: >> I have added to my sources.list the following line: >> >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main >> >> But according to http://backpor

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-03 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 11:28:22PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I have added to my sources.list the following line: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main > > But according to http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/, that won't > make the backpor

Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-03 Thread Paul E Condon
I have added to my sources.list the following line: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main But according to http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/, that won't make the backport appear in interactive aptitude, or be automatically 'upgraded' to the backport

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140411_1642+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2014 16:23:49 Paul E Condon wrote: > > This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help, > > Or did I make a mistake? What mistake? > > There is no findutils package in Wheezy backports. >

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140411_1853+0200, Florian Ernst wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 04:58:56PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: > > As Lisi Reisz notes, findutils is not in wheezy-backports. A search on > > packages.debian.org reveals that a package of findutils 4.5.12 was created > > for exper

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Florian Ernst
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 04:58:56PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: > As Lisi Reisz notes, findutils is not in wheezy-backports. A search on > packages.debian.org reveals that a package of findutils 4.5.12 was created > for experimental on 2013-09-28, but for whatever reason the maintainer

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140411_1639+0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Apr 2014 at 09:23:49 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > root@big:/etc/apt# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install findutils > > No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. > > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Martin Read
On 11/04/14 16:23, Paul E Condon wrote: This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help, Or did I make a mistake? What mistake? An alternative source of findutils that fits with Wheezy? Where? How? You don't appear to have made a mistake. As Lisi Reisz notes, findut

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 April 2014 16:23:49 Paul E Condon wrote: > This is pretty clear indication that wheezy-backports won't help, > Or did I make a mistake? What mistake? There is no findutils package in Wheezy backports. https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=findutils&searchon=name

Re: Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Apr 2014 at 09:23:49 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > root@big:/etc/apt# aptitude -t wheezy-backports install findutils > No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 72 not upgraded. > Need to get 0 B of arc

Using wheezy-backports, advice needed

2014-04-11 Thread Paul E Condon
I have discovered, with help form Bernhard Voelker, a user of openSUSE, that the version of findutils that I am using (4.4.2) contains a bug that explains crashes in my use case. He is using (4.5.12) and recommends >=(4.5.10) I have attempted to use wheezy-backports using instructions at: h

Re: Where to file bug report for wheezy-backports?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:53:33, Paulus, Markus G A (Mark) wrote: > Hi All, > > I have an issue with a package on wheezy-backports, and am not sure > of the proper procedure to notify someone: reportbug would work, but you can also write to debian-backports (where the reportbug would s

Where to file bug report for wheezy-backports?

2014-01-16 Thread Paulus, Markus G A (Mark)
Hi All, I have an issue with a package on wheezy-backports, and am not sure of the proper procedure to notify someone: I am trying to install linux-headers-3.10-0.bpo.3-rt-amd64. $ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading

Re: Should I build a nmu for stable or a backport for wheezy-backports?

2013-08-07 Thread Rui Miguel P. Bernardo
ways to solve this: >>> >>> a) I've downloaded the stable version of the package, applied the >>> patch that fixed the problem and built a wheezy-backports package; >> >> What you described is the way we make stable updates. I have done this >> kind

Re: Should I build a nmu for stable or a backport for wheezy-backports?

2013-08-07 Thread Rui Miguel P. Bernardo
e fix was uploaded to unstable/testing >> but never got in time for stable. For reference I'm talking about >> http://bugs.debian.org/679657. >> >> I tried 2 ways to solve this: >> >> a) I've downloaded the stable version of the package, applied th

Re: Should I build a nmu for stable or a backport for wheezy-backports?

2013-08-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
eference I'm talking about > http://bugs.debian.org/679657. > > I tried 2 ways to solve this: > > a) I've downloaded the stable version of the package, applied the > patch that fixed the problem and built a wheezy-backports package; What you described is the way w

Re: Should I build a nmu for stable or a backport for wheezy-backports?

2013-08-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 07/08/13 07:17, Rui Miguel P. Bernardo wrote: > Hello list, > > let's say there is a bug in a stable package and that bug breaks the > program functionality. Later the fix was uploaded to unstable/testing > but never got in time for stable. For reference I'm talking about > http://bugs.debian.o

Should I build a nmu for stable or a backport for wheezy-backports?

2013-08-06 Thread Rui Miguel P. Bernardo
: a) I've downloaded the stable version of the package, applied the patch that fixed the problem and built a wheezy-backports package; b) I've downloaded the maintainers git repository (unstable), revert some commits and build a wheezy-backports; Backports exists for recent packages from unstab

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 24 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 24 mai 13, 09:56:44, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > Nothing in particular. Just "in general." For example say, in the > > future, a particular version of an app from Stable repo is giving me > > trouble or I need some feature(s) that's only in a

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 24 mai 13, 09:56:44, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Nothing in particular. Just "in general." For example say, in the > future, a particular version of an app from Stable repo is giving me > trouble or I need some feature(s) that's only in a newer version, and > I want to search ONLY backports

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 24 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 mai 13, 20:39:40, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I've been searching and reading the mans on apt, apt-get, aptitude, > > etc., and I haven't been able to find a way to search > > Wheezy-backports. Is there one? I

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 mai 13, 20:39:40, Patrick Bartek wrote: > I've been searching and reading the mans on apt, apt-get, aptitude, > etc., and I haven't been able to find a way to search Wheezy-backports. > Is there one? I'm sure there is. I'm just not finding it. You did

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
aid in the mans that the -t option > > > > would do that. Don't know why it doesn't. > > > > > > > > Also, I just noticed a funny thing: Today, when I do 'apt-cache > > > > show libreoffice-writer' both the 3.5 and new 4.0 v

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-23 Thread Greg Madden
#x27;t know why it doesn't. > > > > > > Also, I just noticed a funny thing: Today, when I do 'apt-cache > > > show libreoffice-writer' both the 3.5 and new 4.0 versions are > > > listed. > > > > Same here. > > > > > Sa

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
So it's only useful on install/upgrade operations. What about the search option? That's what this thread was initially about: Searching ONLY in wheezy-backports. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130523094547.05927...@debian7.boseck208.net

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-23 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le 20/05/2013 23:14, Greg Madden a écrit : On Monday 20 May 2013 13:04:25 you wrote: apt-cache show libreoffice The 'apt-cache + options" command works on the package cache, which includes , afaik, all the packages reference in the sources.list. 'apt-get' install stable packages unless the

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-22 Thread Wayne Topa
gt; > I have not seen any posts about this so I assume I have missed. > something. > > Sources list looks like this: > > deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main > deb http://ftp.uk.deb

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 mai 13, 20:29:48, Wayne Topa wrote: > Using the instructions at > for a few days now, without success, I am getting the following > > " Could not connect to ftp.us.debian.org:80 (204.152.191.39). - connect > (110: Connection timed out)" Could

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 22 May 2013 00:31:14 Wayne Topa wrote: > On 05/21/2013 06:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 May 2013 21:17:23 Brian wrote: > >> On Tue 21 May 2013 at 14:44:06 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > >>> On 05/21/2013 12:44 PM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 05/21/2013 03:13 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > >> On 05/21/2013 12:57 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > >>> > On 05/21/2013 11:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > >

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
On 05/21/2013 06:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 21 May 2013 21:17:23 Brian wrote: >> On Tue 21 May 2013 at 14:44:06 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: >>> On 05/21/2013 12:44 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > This is what I get I get from trying to fin

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 21 May 2013 21:17:23 Brian wrote: > On Tue 21 May 2013 at 14:44:06 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > On 05/21/2013 12:44 PM, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > >> This is what I get I get from trying to find ftp.debian.org > > >> > > >>> topa@dj:~$

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 May 2013 at 14:44:06 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 05/21/2013 12:44 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > >> This is what I get I get from trying to find ftp.debian.org > >> > >>> topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > >>> http://ft

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
On 05/21/2013 03:13 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > >> On 05/21/2013 12:57 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: >>> On 05/21/2013 11:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi Wayne, >>> topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 05/21/2013 12:57 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > >> On 05/21/2013 11:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > >>> Hi Wayne, > > topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian ad

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
On 05/21/2013 12:44 PM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > >> This is what I get I get from trying to find ftp.debian.org >> >>> topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian >>> http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found >> >> For some reason, which I ha

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
On 05/21/2013 12:57 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > >> On 05/21/2013 11:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: >>> Hi Wayne, > topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found For some reason, which I hav

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 May 2013 at 17:44:19 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > This is what I get I get from trying to find ftp.debian.org > > > > > topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found > > > > Fo

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 05/21/2013 11:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > Hi Wayne, > >>> topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > >>> http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found > >> > >> For some reason, which I haven't figured out, is why they are not > >> found? D

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 May 2013 at 11:32:32 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > This is what I get I get from trying to find ftp.debian.org > > > topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found > > For some reason, which I haven't figured out, is why they are not foun

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
On 05/21/2013 11:52 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi Wayne, >>> topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian >>> http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found >> >> For some reason, which I haven't figured out, is why they are not found? >> DNS problem or ipv6 or ??? >> > > Doesn't wor here, t

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Wayne, > > topa@dj:~$ fping http://ftp.debian.org/debian > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian address not found > > For some reason, which I haven't figured out, is why they are not found? > DNS problem or ipv6 or ??? > Doesn't wor here, too. But try "ping ftp.debian.org" as root. Should work

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
ezy was released. >>> >>> I have not seen any posts about this so I assume I have missed. >>> something. >>> >>> Sources list looks like this: >>> >>> deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main >>> deb http://ftp.

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-21 Thread Wayne Topa
me I have missed. >> something. >> >> Sources list looks like this: >> >> deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main >> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main >>

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
just noticed a funny thing: Today, when I do 'apt-cache > > show libreoffice-writer' both the 3.5 and new 4.0 versions are > > listed. > > Same here. > > > Same output with or without the -t wheezy-backports. I'm beginning > > to think that the Libr

Re: Wheezy-backports

2013-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
ction timed out)" > > The same results with ftp.ca.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org. This > started the day after Wheezy was released. > > I have not seen any posts about this so I assume I have missed. > something. > > Sources list looks like this: > > deb htt

Wheezy-backports

2013-05-20 Thread Wayne Topa
tp.uk.debian.org. This started the day after Wheezy was released. I have not seen any posts about this so I assume I have missed. something. Sources list looks like this: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main deb http://f

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-20 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
ter' both the 3.5 and new 4.0 versions are listed. Same here. > Same output with or without the -t wheezy-backports. I'm beginning > to think that the LibreOffice 4 packages have been moved out of > backports, if they were ever there, and into the stable repos. Guess > I

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 20 May 2013 13:04:25 you wrote: > apt-cache show > libreoffice The 'apt-cache + options" command works on the package cache, which includes , afaik, all the packages reference in the sources.list. 'apt-get' install stable packages unless the '-t' option is used. -- Peace, Greg --

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
ot; > > > > > > > root@debian7:~# apt-cache policy libreoffice > > libreoffice: > > Installed: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 > > Candidate: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 > > Version table: > > 1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1 0 > > 100 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ w

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-20 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
ry again, but > > > be more thorough. > > > > Interesting. What is output of: > > root@tal:~# apt-cache policy "app version ONLY in backports." > > > > root@debian7:~# apt-cache policy libreoffice > libreoffice: > Installed: 1:3.5.4+d

Re: Search Wheezy-backports?

2013-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
# apt-cache policy "app version ONLY in backports." > root@debian7:~# apt-cache policy libreoffice libreoffice: Installed: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 Candidate: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 Version table: 1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1 0 100 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports/main amd64 Packag

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