Re: Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 09:34:44PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: I read some advice recently that suggested taking the time some thing has existed to be a "half-life" for deprecation. So, if the pre-deb822 format has existed for 27 years and we deprecated it now, we can expect 50% of users will ha

Re: Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On 01/05/2025 21:17, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu May 1, 2025 at 7:30 PM BST, Siddh Raman Pant wrote: A big red warning (and not error / failure) will bring a much needed kinetic force for the change IMO, on the same lines as the warning when using the old apt-keys stuff. Hence, I request

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUS Q5507QA-S15 Laptop

2025-05-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
Reza Bojnordi [2025-05-06 09:53:54] wrote: > I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the > possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus > processor, specifically for my laptop model, the ASUS Q5507QA-S15. There's arch/arm64/boot/dts/

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUSQ5507QA-S15 Laptop

2025-05-06 Thread debian-user
gene heskett wrote: > On 5/6/25 03:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:53:54AM +0330, Reza Bojnordi wrote: > >> Dear Debian > >> > >> I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire > >> about the possibility of enhanced support and development for the > >

Re: Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 1, 2025 at 9:17 PM BST, Jonathan Dowland wrote: However, can I point out that the pre-822 format has been around for *27 years*: it's going to take a long time for people who are familiar with it to internalise the new format. Introducing nagging warnings too soon will frustrate peop

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUSQ5507QA-S15 Laptop

2025-05-06 Thread gene heskett
On 5/6/25 03:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:53:54AM +0330, Reza Bojnordi wrote: Dear Debian I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus processor, specifically for

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUS Q5507QA-S15 Laptop

2025-05-06 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:53:54AM +0330, Reza Bojnordi wrote: > Dear Debian > > I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the > possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus > processor, specifically for my laptop model, the ASUS Q5507QA-S1

Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUS Q5507QA-S15 Laptop

2025-05-05 Thread Reza Bojnordi
Dear Debian I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus processor, specifically for my laptop model, the ASUS Q5507QA-S15. As a user of this device, I believe that expanding the support for th

Re: Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-01 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-05-02, Siddh Raman Pant wrote: > Now that we have deb822 format for specifying APT repo which includes > everything within one file, the user should be discouraged from using > old styles where the GPG key is stored in a "keyring" (whether it be a > trusted keyring or just a folder in anot

Re: Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 1, 2025 at 7:30 PM BST, Siddh Raman Pant wrote: A big red warning (and not error / failure) will bring a much needed kinetic force for the change IMO, on the same lines as the warning when using the old apt-keys stuff. Hence, I request for making deb822 the default format and

Re: Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-01 Thread Joe
he software or doc-cycle are open in the first place. > > A big red warning (and not error / failure) will bring a much needed > kinetic force for the change IMO, on the same lines as the warning > when using the old apt-keys stuff. > > Hence, I request for making deb822 the default

Feature request: Make deb822 default and deprecate old-style sources.list

2025-05-01 Thread Siddh Raman Pant
ed kinetic force for the change IMO, on the same lines as the warning when using the old apt-keys stuff. Hence, I request for making deb822 the default format and deprecating the previous .list method with a noisy warning. Thanks, Siddh

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-04 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/3/25 à 16:40, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: dpkg won't install missing dependencies. gdebi will. So will apt-get and apt. It's just undocumented. apt install ./filename.deb apt-get install ./filename.deb The pathname MUST begin

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Darac Marjal
On 03/03/2025 11:49, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Counter Proposal: Ask whomever is providing you the packge, to offer it as a Debian Repository. That way, your custom application is just a "extrepo enable " away. OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digita

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : > > You can install any random .deb package from any source using dpkg [...] > > dpkg won't install missing dependencies. > gdebi will. So will apt-get and apt. It's just undocumented. apt install

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : You can also compile software source code[...]> This is not a trivial task. I find configure, make, sudo make install often very simple. So I'd say it depends on the software. Sometimes you're missing header files, in which case configure kindly shows you exac

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 3/3/25 15:42, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : You can also compile software source code[...]> This is not a trivial task. I find configure, make, sudo make install often very simple. So I'd say it depends on the software. Sometimes you're missing header files, in

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : You can install any random .deb package from any source using dpkg [...] dpkg won't install missing dependencies. gdebi will. Best, -- yassine -- sysadm http://about.me/ychaouche Looking for side gigs.

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:22 AM Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > > On 3/3/25 12:49, Steven Speek wrote: > > I would like this feature in apt-get. > > This is a disaster feature from my point of view. Debian packages are > installed with root privileges, however, many systems are configured to > allow use

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
think that "All that will happen ..." is overly pessimistic. Replies have already: - described why the details of the request be in message body. - warned of consequences of indiscriminate use of proposed feature. - suggested how/why/where a feature request should be directed. Also t

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Exactly *WHAT* feature?? You supply *NO* context. Also this list is primarily user-to-user support.

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
details of their request only in the Subject: header, and then omit them from the body of their message. A large number of people don't read the Subject: headers of messages. They only read the body. +6.022 * 10 ** 23 [GRIN]

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 3/3/25 12:49, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. This is a disaster feature from my point of view. Debian packages are installed with root privileges, however, many systems are configured to allow users to use sudo to install packages from configured and trusted rep

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Steven Speek wrote: > I would like this feature in apt-get. Since this is just a mailing list of Debian users, no one here is empowered to do what you ask. The proper procedure would be to report it as a wishlist bug on apt-get in the Debian bug trac

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/3/25 à 13:14, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Exactly *WHAT* feature?? You supply *NO* context. Also this list is primarily user-to-user support. Happy now? Look how angry you made Steven Speek now.

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 06:14:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: > > I would like this feature in apt-get. > > > > Exactly *WHAT* feature?? > You supply *NO* context. This is why I advise people NOT to put the detai

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Steven Speek wrote: > I would like this feature in apt-get. Until then, you can use wget to retrieve the URL and apt install to install from the filename. In general, this is rather dangerous, and should probably be avoided. There may be better solutions, depending on the context of where these

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Steven Speek
I would like this feature in apt-get.

Re: -request

2025-02-23 Thread William Torrez Corea
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 11:34 PM wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 07:04:49PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 11:31 PM wrote: > > > > > You don't need to tell that to the other 4999 subscribers :-) > > [...] > > > Ok, haughty. > > Please, don't take it personally :)

Re: -request

2025-02-10 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 07:04:49PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 11:31 PM wrote: > > > You don't need to tell that to the other 4999 subscribers :-) [...] > Ok, haughty. Please, don't take it personally :) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: -request

2025-02-10 Thread William Torrez Corea
On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 11:31 PM wrote: > You don't need to tell that to the other 4999 subscribers :-) > > FWIW, I usually answer (friendly) personally to such fat-fingered > unsubscription requests. Spamming the whole list is at least as > mindless. > > Cheers > -- > t > Ok, haughty. -- W

Re: -request

2025-02-09 Thread William Torrez Corea
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 6:47 PM Róbert László wrote: > unsubscribe > You must read the wiki of debian buddy https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe -- With kindest regards, William. *Larry Wall invented a messy programming language -- and changed the face of the Web*

-request

2025-02-05 Thread Róbert László
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Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread George at Clug
Muhammad, I will offer you my quick explanation: You should end up with the same result, no matter which media you use to install to your computer. 1) Live media is for people who want to run Debian from a DVD/USB before actually installing to their computer. This allows them to 1) check that

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On 15/10/2024 21:03, deb...@nexgntech.com wrote: Dear All, A few days back, I had the opportunity to dive into the OpenWISP / OpenWRT project, and I learned that it is best supported on Debian. (For the benefit of other list members, OpenWISP appears to be something that installs on top of

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deb...@nexgntech.com wrote: > I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would > appreciate it if someone could explain the differences between these modes > in detail. Specifically, I would like to understand what each mode includes > initially and what additional pa

Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread debian
Dear All, A few days back, I had the opportunity to dive into the OpenWISP / OpenWRT project, and I learned that it is best supported on Debian. While studying, I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would appreciate it if someone could explain the differences betw

Re: Request for Download Link for Debian 10 Installer

2024-08-25 Thread Charles Curley
age. Use them! https://www.debian.org/CD/verify > > On 25.08.2024 16:55, Jayram Gaonkar wrote: > > > > Dear Debian Team, > > > > I am writing to *request a reliable download link for the Debian 10 > > ISO* file. We have a project that specifically requires t

Re: Request for Download Link for Debian 10 Installer

2024-08-25 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/10.13.0/amd64/iso-cd/ On 25.08.2024 16:55, Jayram Gaonkar wrote: Dear Debian Team, I am writing to *request a reliable download link for the Debian 10 ISO* file. We have a project that specifically requires this version, and I have

Re: Request for Download Link for Debian 10 Installer

2024-08-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 08:25:45PM +0530, Jayram Gaonkar wrote: > Dear Debian Team, > > I am writing to *request a reliable download link for the Debian 10 ISO* > file. We have a project that specifically requires this version, and I have > encountered difficulties finding a wo

Re: Request for Download Link for Debian 10 Installer

2024-08-25 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 08:25:45PM +0530, Jayram Gaonkar wrote: > Could you please provide me with a direct and reliable link to download the > full Debian 10 ISO file? You don't say which architecture you're looking for, or which particular flavour of iso, but you might start at https://get.d

Request for Download Link for Debian 10 Installer

2024-08-25 Thread Jayram Gaonkar
Dear Debian Team, I am writing to *request a reliable download link for the Debian 10 ISO* file. We have a project that specifically requires this version, and I have encountered difficulties finding a working installer. The links I have found so far either lead to incomplete DVD images or result

Request for output of commands [WAS Re: AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work]

2024-02-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 02:15:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon > > I did send the bugreport. > > Thank You. > Did anybody use the rescue mode? > > Regards Sophie > > > > Von: Andrew M.A. Cater > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:

Re: Request about Boot Repair Disk

2024-01-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/01/2024 01:03, fran...@libero.it wrote: If I use SuperGrub cd by manual booting I can access to debian and boot it. So I used Boort Repair Disk 64 to try to repair, but it gave me a report advicing me to ask online with that report here under: (it is a long report) I have no idea co

Re: Request about Boot Repair Disk

2024-01-28 Thread DdB
Am 27.01.2024 um 19:03 schrieb fran...@libero.it: > (it is a long report) This is interesting ... BUT i lack the required experience: Neither do i use Windows nor a notebook, but i would guess, that the last paragraph from your report contains the root cause of your problem: > Please do not fo

Request about Boot Repair Disk

2024-01-27 Thread frantal
I have installed Windows 10 on a notebook Asus F552M. Then I installed Debian 12, but no Grub at reboot only Windows. If I use SuperGrub cd by manual booting I can access to debian and boot it. So I used Boort Repair Disk 64 to try to repair, but it gave me a report advicing me to ask online wit

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-18 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Kroeger writes: >> If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is >> the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. > > https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail > > I use this. It is what you want. I proposed it already but apparently it doesn't do "prop

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-17 Thread Charles Kroeger
> If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is > the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail I use this. It is what you want. -- CK

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-15 Thread Keith Bainbridge
I've been using K9 for a while. It does threading by dropping the thread into a new 'tree' similar to tbird's indenting of an open thread in its main tree, but in a side window where I scroll the thread and press back arrow when I want to close the thread. FairEmail does threading the same way

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is > the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. The closest I found so far is Fedilab, but: - While it does provide some threading, it's incomplete. - It's for the Fediverse rather than for email.

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:43 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello Andy, > > {gmail web interface} > > that people put up with that. > > If they've always used google (and let's face it, there are plenty of > people that fall in to that categor

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Nicolas George
jeremy ardley (12023-11-14): > I use Bluemail on android. It claims to do threading though I don't use it. > Bluemail seems competent. A quick search for screenshots on the web leads to the conclusion that no, Bluemail does not do threading, just linear conversation. Regards, -- Nicolas Georg

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/11/23 02:30, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 13/11/2023 14:50, Anssi Saari wrote: The Wanderer writes: And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with proper threading. If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is the primary reason w

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/11/2023 14:50, Anssi Saari wrote: The Wanderer writes: And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with proper threading. If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. Possibl

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Anssi Saari
The Wanderer writes: >> And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with >> proper threading. > > If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is > the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. Possibly FairEmail would fit the bill. Th

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread debian-user
"Susmita/Rajib" wrote: > I have been listening to the conversations on my thread begun with my > post https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00505.html > > In my first email itself I had mentioned that I use "Gmail webmail > email-server". So have I, mostly for my amusement. > Yet in

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Rajib, On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 08:58:42PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > In my first email itself I had mentioned that I use "Gmail webmail > email-server". > > Yet in one of the replies I received, I get a comment like, "... > It sounds like whatever you are using to read email (your MUA) is >

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Susmita/Rajib
I have been listening to the conversations on my thread begun with my post https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00505.html In my first email itself I had mentioned that I use "Gmail webmail email-server". Yet in one of the replies I received, I get a comment like, "... It sounds like w

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-11-13, The Wanderer wrote: >> And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with >> proper threading. > > If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is > the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. >From f-droid you can get te

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-13 10:57:34 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with > proper threading. Not sure if that counts, but Mutt in Termux? -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog:

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 10:57:34 -0300 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Hello Eduardo, >It's not only google, I'd say it's the norm, except for "advanced" >users that use good MUA. Now *I'm* shocked (like Andy Smith is). I haven't ever used web mail, so had no idea. >And those are getting rare, I can'

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/11/2023 11:10, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-11-13 at 08:57, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: It's not only google, I'd say it's the norm, except for "advanced" users that use good MUA. And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with proper threading. If you ever do find o

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12023-11-13): > IIUC most people have never seen real threading :-( There is real threading: N 11-13 Susmita/Rajib(1.5K) Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023 N 11-13 Susmita/Rajib(0.6K) ├─>

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-11-13 at 08:57, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 13/11/2023 09:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 + Andy Smith >> wrote: >> >> Hello Andy, >> >> {gmail web interface} >>> that people put up with that. >> >> If they've always used google (and let's face it, th

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/11/2023 09:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, {gmail web interface} that people put up with that. If they've always used google (and let's face it, there are plenty of people that fall in to that category), then they have no experie

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Wow. I'm genuinely shocked it is so bad and that people put up with > that. IIUC most people have never seen real threading :-( Worse, when I showed it to some non-techie users they didn't like it. Whether it's a kind of Stockholm syndrome or not is hard to tell. I suspect we'd have to convince

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, {gmail web interface} > that people put up with that. If they've always used google (and let's face it, there are plenty of people that fall in to that category), then they have no experience of anything else and quite possibly kn

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:48:31AM +, David wrote: > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:29, Andy Smith wrote: > > It is only the most inept of MUAs that fail to use these headers > > and rely only on the Subject: header being the same. > > Agreed. But that's what the Gmail web interface has al

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread David
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:29, Andy Smith wrote: > but as far as I know (I am not a Gmail user myself), > Gmail's web interface does do threading properly Hi, The Gmail web interface does not display emails as threads, by design [1]. """A conversation breaks off into a new conversation if t

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 09:36:33AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > May please the concerned portions of > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00443.html be perused, > as a part of my conversation with Mr. Cater, also quoted below: > > "... There is one problem with this approach,

Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-11-13, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > "... There is one problem with this approach, as stated earlier. For the > Mailing list, any change of subject from my Gmail webmail email-server > makes such an email detached from the main thread and treats it as a > different subject. I am not sure to unde

Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-12 Thread Susmita/Rajib
Apologies for the inadvertent typo. Corrigendum: May the phrase: "... MHonArc is only about conversion of our emails into cross-linked email format ..." Be read as "... MHonArc is only about conversion of our emails into cross-linked HTML format ..." -- __ *Inspir

Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-12 Thread Susmita/Rajib
May please the concerned portions of https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00443.html be perused, as a part of my conversation with Mr. Cater, also quoted below: "... There is one problem with this approach, as stated earlier. For the Mailing list, any change of subject from my Gmail web

Re: Request to Establish a Debian Mirror Server for Bangladeshi Users

2023-11-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
cal tech community > > I would like to request your support for this proposal. I am open to any > suggestions or feedback you may have. See <https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror> and <https://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/>. The pages provide the instructions for you to host a

Re: Request to Establish a Debian Mirror Server for Bangladeshi Users

2023-11-08 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
valuable resource for the local tech community > > I would like to request your support for this proposal. I am open to any > suggestions or feedback you may have. > > Thank you for your time and consideration. > > Sincerely, > > Shehab Uddin There is LUG in Banglade

Re: Request to Establish a Debian Mirror Server for Bangladeshi Users

2023-11-07 Thread Richard Hector
I would like to request your support for this proposal. I am open to any suggestions or feedback you may have. I suggest starting by reading here: https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror Cheers, Richard

Request to Establish a Debian Mirror Server for Bangladeshi Users

2023-11-07 Thread Md Shehab
Dear Debian Community, I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to propose the establishment of a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh I am confident that a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh would be a valuable resource for the local tech community I would like to request your support for

Re: Debian Wiki IP Address Unban Request

2023-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 05:02:22PM -0400, Oliver Wenston wrote: > I purchased a vps to use as my vpn server, and found out that it was black > listed from the https://wiki.debian.org/ website. I am currently using > Bookworm, and would love to be able to visit the wiki with my vpn. > > Who should

Debian Wiki IP Address Unban Request

2023-08-22 Thread Oliver Wenston
Dear Debian mailing list, I purchased a vps to use as my vpn server, and found out that it was black listed from the https://wiki.debian.org/ website. I am currently using Bookworm, and would love to be able to visit the wiki with my vpn. Who should I contact next on a private channel to get my I

Please could we calm down? [WAS List administrators - request]

2023-08-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
People, I'm not claiming any huge authority here: I'm a volunteer here and a reader and contributor. Recent threads have got out of hand, at least in part. It is *really helpful* to be constructive and to try and put yourself in someone else's place. There have been long rambling threads, some d

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
ndeed make that apology. Presumably you did so because you were confused about whom Greg was addressing when he pointed out, in reply to the author of [3], that the link in [3] was not responsive to the request in [1] (above). and, posted the correct URL for the pine users mailing list. Indeed

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote: [...] Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning the linux distro called Alpine Linux. [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html Then Greg points out, in re

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/8/23 03:36, davidson wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find irrelevant to my interests

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote: > [...] > Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning > the linux distro called Alpine Linux. > [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html > > Then Greg points out, in reply to the red-herring poster, tha

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: >> The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's >> threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find >> irrelevant to my interests > > Unfortunately no mat

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: > The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's > threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find > irrelevant to my interests Unfortunately no matter how advanced your MUA is, it doesn't help aga

Sorting messages by threads - was - Re: List administrators - request for intervention

2023-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/8/23 08:12, davidson wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Hello. Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the "unubscribe" thread? In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages from my inbox to a dedicated folder. Here is

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:18 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > [...] > No one of us is perfect: the temptation to just add a bit more when you > are irritated or something is wrong on the internet can be very strong. > > Obligatory xkcd cartoon: https://xkcd.com/386 Yeah, some threads refuse to die.

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: > [snip] >> Hello. >> >> Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the >> "unubscribe" thread? > > In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages > from my inbox to a dedicat

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Hello. Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the "unubscribe" thread? In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages from my inbox to a dedicated folder. Here is a sample of what I see in alpine,

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 08:53:43AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the > "unubscribe" thread? > Sadly, this list isn't fully moderated: the only way to stop any particular thread is not to contribute to it. I spend some t

List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/8/23 08:08, zithro wrote: On 11 Aug 2023 23:39, gene heskett wrote: No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least a decade. With all due respect, can you stop spreading misinformation to th

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-05-03 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 5/2/23 à 14:40, songbird a écrit : [...] note this from the package description: "evtest is now in maintenance mode and doesn't support all the features of the latest kernels; evemu-record from the evemu-tools package should be used instead." Thanks for the heads-up! Best, -- yas

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-05-02 Thread songbird
Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 4/25/23 à 06:00, Susmita/Rajib a écrit : > >> >> Try looking at "evtest". >> >> [ ... ] >> >> Raed the manual of evtest. There are very little >> example code lines. evtest isn't installed in the Official Debian >> GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46. > >

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-05-02 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 4/25/23 à 06:00, Susmita/Rajib a écrit : Try looking at "evtest". [ ... ] Raed the manual of evtest. There are very little example code lines. evtest isn't installed in the Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46. I second evtest which is very straightforward. Up

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-04-25 Thread Susmita/Rajib
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal From: "Susmita/Rajib" Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 10:30:04 +0530 Message-id: <[🔎] caeg4cz

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-04-24 Thread David
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 at 05:18, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > [...] > >From these questions, found evemu, but this isn't available in Debian. > Only on freedesktop. But an alternative is available: evemu-tools. But > Debian manpages doesn't have an evemu-tools entry. > > Raed the manual of evtest. There ar

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-04-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal From: Darac Marjal Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 18:24:06 +0100 Message-id: <[🔎] ab7599f3-2c92-358c-2ba4-250284

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-04-24 Thread Darac Marjal
Note that the subject of an email should be just that - an indication of the subject matter. Putting important information JUST in the subject line can be confusing. On 24/04/2023 14:40, Susmita/Rajib wrote: The output could be simple dots for mouse movement, dashes for key press, and colon fo

Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

2023-04-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
The output could be simple dots for mouse movement, dashes for key press, and colon for perepherals insert. No need for exact key or mouse positions or perepheral details. Best wishes, Rajib

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