Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

Hi, i wrote: > > Would it be ok to install "grub-pc-bin" and "grub-efi-ia32-bin" ? Steve McIntyre wrote: > Yes. That's exactly the design of the packaging here: the -bin > packages contain the binary grub code that you're looking for, and > grub-pc and grub-efi-$arch do the configuration to use o

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

Thomas wrote: > >i am trying to reproduce a problem of grub-mkrescue. For that i need >the directories > /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc > /usr/lib/grub/i386-efi >alongside the already installed > /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi >in order to get an ISO for legacy BIOS and EFI together. >Gentoo and Arch obviously

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

Hi, Dan Ritter wrote: > Would downloading the deb packages, then un-ar'ing them in a tmp dir > get you most of what you want? Maybe. But i was looking for a way to create BIOS+EFI grub-mkrescue ISOs by regular Debian means. To answer my own question: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i am trying to reproduce a problem of grub-mkrescue. For that i need > the directories > /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc > /usr/lib/grub/i386-efi > alongside the already installed > /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi > in order to get an ISO for legacy BIOS and EFI together. > G

Re: How to set umask for apache2

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > > [service] > > UMask=0002 > > Shouldn't that square-bracket heade

Re: How to set umask for apache2

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > [service] > UMask=0002 Shouldn't that square-bracket header be capitalized? [Service] instead o

Re: How to set umask for apache2

On 28/05/2025 21:34, Chris Green wrote: chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf [service] UMask=0002 [...] chris$ systemctl show apache2.service | grep -i umask UMask=0022 So why can't I set it!!?? I think, you can, but you need to fix a typo

Re: How to set umask for apache2

On 5/28/25 10:34 AM, Chris Green wrote: [...] ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf [service] UMask=0002 It may necessary to reset UMask first, i.e.: [Service] UMask= UMask=0002 -- Šarūnas Bur

Re: How to know when a fuse filesystem is properly unmounted

On Mon, 19 May 2025, songbird wrote: Tim Woodall wrote: Short script below that shows my problem. fusermount -u (and umount) both return before all the data is written out to the backing file on a fuse FS. Is there any way to tell when this is complete? I tried running fuse in the foreground a

Re: How to know when a fuse filesystem is properly unmounted

Tim Woodall wrote: > Short script below that shows my problem. > > fusermount -u (and umount) both return before all the data is written > out to the backing file on a fuse FS. Is there any way to tell when this > is complete? I tried running fuse in the foreground and then doing a > wait $PID b

Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

Hi, On Sun, May 04, 2025 at 08:03:39AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Thank you , David. My problem was a simple blunder, but your respose was > usefully informative. It would be helpful to say what the blunder was so that other people who find this thread by search later on may not be left wonde

[SOLVED] Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

Thank you , David. My problem was a simple blunder, but your respose was usefully informative. On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 02:12:23PM +, David wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2025 at 11:09, Haines Brown wrote: > Now to assist you, here's an actual example cut and pasted from the machine > I'm using ri

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

On Sat 03 May 2025 at 06:22:45 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > under /media. > > I can change the ownership of that directory to that of the user, but > when I mount the the key on it the ownsrhip reverts to root. There

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

Am Samstag, 3. Mai 2025, 12:22:45 CEST schrieb Haines Brown: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > under /media. > > I can change the ownership of that directory to that of the user, but > when I mount the the key on it the ownsrhip reverts to root. As the >

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

Hi, On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 06:22:45AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > under /media. Are you talking about the automatic mounting under /media of a user's removable media devices (USB keys etc) under a desktop environment,

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

On Sat, 3 May 2025 at 11:09, Haines Brown wrote: The private message that I have quoted here ... > On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 10:51:17AM +, David wrote: > > On Sat, 3 May 2025 at 10:23, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > > > u

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

On Sat, 3 May 2025 06:22:45 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a > directory under /media. > > I can change the ownership of that directory to that of the user, but > when I mount the the key on it the ownsrhip reverts to root. As the > r

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

On Sat, 3 May 2025 at 10:23, Haines Brown wrote: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > under /media. Hi, what type of filesystem is on the USB key? extt4? vfat? Something else? > I can change the ownership of that directory to that of the user, but >

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 13:06:42 + David wrote: Hello David, >So the issue arose because DMO splits 'handbrake' into 3 packages >(handbrake, handbrake-cli,handbrake-gtk) one of which contains nothing >executable. Whereas Debian uses only 2 packages and puts the GUI >version into the 'handbrake'

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 at 12:32, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 12:01:06 + David wrote: > >Because you are running this: > > > > https://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-arm64/package/handbrake > >which is not packaged by Debian. > > Good point, well made. > > I fail

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 12:01:06 + David wrote: Hello David, >Because you are running this: > > https://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-arm64/package/handbrake >which is not packaged by Debian. Good point, well made. I failed to spot that - because I'm so used to having Debi

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 at 11:53, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2025-04-26 07:32, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:15:41 -0400 > > Gary Dale wrote: > >> I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed > >> Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. > > Install handbrake-

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On 2025-04-26 07:32, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:15:41 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. Install handbrake-gtk. The entry for Handbrake should be found in Multimed

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On 2025-04-25 15:22, Eben King wrote: On 4/25/25 12:15, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop menu and the command line program ha

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On 2025-04-25 20:39, David wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 at 16:55, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop menu and the command line prog

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:15:41 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, >I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed >Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. Install handbrake-gtk. The entry for Handbrake should be found in Multimedia. -- Regards _ "Valid sig se

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On 2025-04-25 13:06, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:55 PM Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma deskto

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 at 16:55, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed > Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. > > The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop > menu and the command line program has too many options for

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On 4/25/25 12:15, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop menu and the command line program has too many options for me to sort thr

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:55 PM Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed > Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. > > The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop > menu and the command line program has too many options

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 24/04/2025 15:06, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 11:32:23AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: ISO 14289 is an accessibility standard for PDF. It allows for the creation of a "Tagged PDF" where semantic information, including table structures (, , , ), can be embedded in a separat

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 24/4/25 16:06, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Informal advice is always "Write it in Word, then let Word convert it to PDF" That works if the author is disciplined and knows how to tag, heading orders and so on - but it can still produce tagged PDFs that are nominally accessible to screen readers

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 08:48:43AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 11:32:23AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > On 24/4/25 10:31, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > > By the way, PDF files may be tagged for screen readers. Is there a > > > dedicated structure to explicitly ma

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 11:32:23AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 24/4/25 10:31, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > By the way, PDF files may be tagged for screen readers. Is there a > > dedicated structure to explicitly mark tables? It would be the best > > source for data extraction. > > > ISO 14

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 23/04/2025 09:56, jeremy ardley wrote: On 23/4/25 10:37, Max Nikulin wrote: Accidentally I have noticed [...] I have not tried it [...] One underlying problem with tabular data in pdf is the order the text is encoded.

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 24/4/25 10:31, Max Nikulin wrote: By the way, PDF files may be tagged for screen readers. Is there a dedicated structure to explicitly mark tables? It would be the best source for data extraction. ISO 14289 is an accessibility standard for PDF. It allows for the creation of a "Tagged

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 23/4/25 10:37, Max Nikulin wrote: I would be great if a data extractor warned users when text from document (either really text or embedded OCR layer for scans) does not match text recognized from rendered document. Besides routine sanity checks, document author might try to intentionally

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 22/04/2025 09:51, jeremy ardley wrote: Some LLM can also accept pdf for input but you'd need to snip out the pages you are interested in. I consider that slightly more risky as what you see rendered or printed and what some programs see internal to the pdf varies I would be great if a data

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 22/4/25 10:43, David Wright wrote: I'm not sure if it is mentioned but just take a picture of each page and ask a good Large Language Model to give you a table. Assuming you took a photograph of the screen, I wouldn't be too surprised about its confusing 8 and 0. Everything is so grey on gr

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Fri 18 Apr 2025 at 11:09:52 (+0800), jeremy ardley wrote: > On 15/4/25 22:19, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I don't know how to approach the problem. > > What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file > > containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of > > [ > > https://

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/18/25 02:53, jeremy ardley wrote: Obviously you've never had to herd junior developers. I have had to. It sucks and productivity is woeful due to all the checking and unit testing and such, plus they quite often have comprehension problems and are unable to follow instructions - and I'

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 15/4/25 22:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf ]. Sug

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/17/25 10:09 PM, jeremy ardley wrote: On 15/4/25 22:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/17/25 9:45 PM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 14:24:35 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 4/16/25 8:35 AM, David Wright wrote: Ironically, a copy/paste from xpdf seems to do a better job than -layout at preserving the columns widths over the page break. (Perhaps the text at the b

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 18/4/25 15:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I see my colleagues now writing programs with LLMs. I don't look forward to the day I'll have to debug a larger corpus of this mess. Obviously you've never had to herd junior developers. I have had to. It sucks and productivity is woeful due to all

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 01:35:19PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 18/4/25 13:10, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > I'm not sure if it is mentioned but just take a picture of each page and > > > ask > > > a good Large Language Model to give you a table. > > After this, I'd double-check each indivi

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 18/4/25 13:35, jeremy ardley wrote: Another strategy is to use two models and compare the outputs or use the same model in two sessions. I tried the two model approach and compared perplexity with Claude Sonnet and asked Claude Sonnet to check the results. *Query* I have checked you

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 18/4/25 13:10, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I'm not sure if it is mentioned but just take a picture of each page and ask a good Large Language Model to give you a table. After this, I'd double-check each individual number. You'll never know if they are being made up, otherwise. I've been doin

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:09:52AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: [...] > I'm not sure if it is mentioned but just take a picture of each page and ask > a good Large Language Model to give you a table. After this, I'd double-check each individual number. You'll never know if they are being made up,

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 14:24:35 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/16/25 8:35 AM, David Wright wrote: > > Ironically, a copy/paste from xpdf seems to do a better job > > than -layout at preserving the columns widths over the page break. > > (Perhaps the text at the bottom of the second page messe

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/17/25 21:24, Richard Owlett wrote: Selected text can be copied to the clipboard (with the edit/copy menu item). On X11, selected text will be available in the X selection buffer. Where is a Toolbar with a sidebar button? I've never seen such a "sidebar button". However, on the left ma

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/16/25 8:35 AM, David Wright wrote: On Wed 16 Apr 2025 at 07:21:07 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 4/15/25 11:01 AM, Kent West wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:32 AM Nicolas George wrote: Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Wed 16 Apr 2025 at 07:21:07 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/15/25 11:01 AM, Kent West wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:32 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > > Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): > > > > I don't know how to approach the problem. > > > > What I would like to end up with is a CSV

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/16/25 7:21 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 4/15/25 11:01 AM, Kent West wrote: $ pdftotext -f 106 -l 107 TFP2021.pdf TFP2021.txt As I replied to Nicolas I'll try both that and also a run with the "-layout" option. I typed the wrong line here (I should have copied/pasted); it should be:

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/15/25 12:56 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 4/15/25 07:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/defaul

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/15/25 11:01 AM, Kent West wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:32 AM Nicolas George wrote: Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/15/25 10:31 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/reso

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 4/15/25 07:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know how to approach the problem. What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of [ https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/ TFP2021.pdf ]. Sugge

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): > I don't know how to approach the problem. > What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the two > left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of > [ > https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf > ]. > > Sug

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:32 AM Nicolas George wrote: > Richard Owlett (HE12025-04-15): > > I don't know how to approach the problem. > > What I would like to end up with is a CSV formatted file containing the > two > > left columns of Table A4.14 (pages 106&107) of > > [ > > > https://fns-prod.

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

On 4/7/25 10:58, Max Nikulin wrote: On 07/04/2025 10:36, hlyg wrote: in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks It seems you have solved your issue (using BIOS menu), so feel f

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

On 07/04/2025 10:36, hlyg wrote: in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks It seems you have solved your issue (using BIOS menu), so feel free to ignore my question. It is pure c

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

to Max Nikulin: perhaps my optiplex is quite old, it hasn't uefi compatibility mode though i have installed latest version in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

On 05/04/2025 21:54, hlyg wrote: i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work [...] how to remove them? I am curious which way you boot Debian if UEFI entry does

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 6:02 AM hlyg wrote: > > i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show > > under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian > > but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work > > most probably they are resulted from previous installation o

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

On 2025-04-05, Hans wrote: > Maybe for someione interesting: As I also have Windows on my drive, there is > an entry for Windows. I deleted this, because then I only have the entry > "debian". And this is tarting grub, which got an entry for Windows. > Dunno, if this is a good way, but it is w

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

Thank Hans! it is really Dell issue. i follow your instruction, it works.

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

Am Samstag, 5. April 2025, 16:54:24 CEST schrieb hlyg: > i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show > > under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian > > but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work > > most probably they are resulted from previous in

Re: How do I submit a game to a distribution?

Hi, Thanks. The Copyright is now in effect. I am releasing the game ( JASAG ) under the gpl3 license (if anyone is interested). I put the game ( JASAG ) on itch.io today (with a short description and some screenshots), Included are all required modules, files, source as well as the install s

Re: How do I do...

On 3/28/25 11:49, COMCAST wrote: I have a working install of 12.90. But am experiencing a minor hiccup. Please open a terminal, run the following command, and copy and paste the entire console session into a reply -- prompt, command entered, output displayed: 2025-03-28 12:16:06 dpchrist@la

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06[Thu]15:23 🦓 read that 2025-03-06[Thu]08:38 Geoff wrote You can use dpigs from debian-goodies package: debian-goodies' dpigs does a great job: debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ dpigs -H 142.3M libgl1-mesa-dri 79.3M libpython3.7-dev 65.2M emacs-common 57.7M libllvm7 43.1M guile-2.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

Greg Wooledge writes: > Why are you assuming that the space you want can be freed by removing > packages? > > For the vast majority of people, if disk space is running low, it's > because *data* files are piling up, and may be in need of some trimming. Pro tip: running "sudo apt clean" often fre

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/8/25 8:07 AM, Miriami wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > I haven't used the MATE desktop environment, but I guess it also > > has this: 1. Right click on a PDF file, in the pop-up right-click > > menu, chooss 'open this file with ...' 2. In the then-popped-up > > dialog a

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 08/03/2025 21:30, Marco Moock wrote: xdg-mime query default application/pdf Just a word of caution. It does not necessary mean that applications or xdg-open will use the reported handler. E.g. in corner cases Gtk and KDE interprets mimeapps.list in a bit different way. exo-open (that i

Re: TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

On 09/03/2025 01:21, Richard Owlett wrote: I do not believe using xdg-mime is a *legitimate" technique in this instance. It wasn't used to *cause* the problem. It *shouldn't* be used to supposedly "solve" the problem. A wrong assumption. On 08/03/2025 23:27, Richard Owlett wrote: Before toda

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 09/03/2025 04:55, Mike Kupfer wrote: I don't have any ideas for how you ended up with a different PDF viewer. Behavior varies across various DE. It may be enough to just install another application that may open PDF files. If media type association is not explicitly configured then it is i

SUCCESS!!! - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

On 3/8/25 3:55 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I can suggest a couple things to try, either of which should get you back to using Atril. 1. Open the MATE Control Center, click o

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 08.03.2025 17:30 Uhr Richard Owlett wrote: > Before today I never heard of anything beginning with "xdg". Now you have heard about it, so use it. > I'm looking for the specific MATE tool. ;} I think that is maybe handled by the file manager. Which one do you use? -- kind regards Marco Sen

TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

do *NOT* try solution described below *UNLESS* unless you know how to recover. On 3/8/25 7:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad.

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

Richard Owlett wrote: > My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I can suggest a couple things to try, either of which should get you back to using Atril. 1. Open the MATE Control Center, click on "Preferred Applications" (in the "

Re: TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

Hi, On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 12:21:43PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I do not believe using xdg-mime is a *legitimate" technique in this > instance. It wasn't used to *cause* the problem. It *shouldn't* be used to > supposedly "solve" the problem. You don't know that. As Marco already explained,

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 3/8/25 8:07 AM, Miriami wrote: Hi Richard, I haven't used the MATE desktop environment, but I guess it also has this: 1. Right click on a PDF file, in the pop-up right-click menu, chooss 'open this file with ...' 2. In the then-popped-up dialog asking which program to be used to open this P

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 3/8/25 8:52 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:41:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. I assumed that Edit Preferen

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

Hi Richard, I haven't used the MATE desktop environment, but I guess it also has this: 1. Right click on a PDF file, in the pop-up right-click menu, chooss 'open this file with ...' 2. In the then-popped-up dialog asking which program to be used to open this PDF file, select the program desired,

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 3/8/25 8:30 AM, Marco Moock wrote: On 08.03.2025 14:50 Uhr Richard Owlett wrote: It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. I assumed that Edit Preferences was the place to go. But under Browser->Helper Applications i

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On 3/8/25 7:55 AM, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2025 at 8:41 AM From: "Richard Owlett" To: "debian-user" Subject: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it wit

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:41:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. > I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. > > I assumed that Edit Preferences was the place to go. > But und

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 23:26:55 +0100, 🦓 wrote: > 2025-03-07[Fri]23:14 🦓 read that > 2025-03-07[Fri]07:21 Greg Wooledge wrote > > That's conceptually similar to the little program that I wrote, which > > you can get from . It's in perl. > > Wow! Looks backward comp

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07[Fri]23:27 🦓 read that 2025-03-07[Fri]10:20 Jonathan Dowland wrote I favour "duc" (as opposed to, e.g. ncdu) duc index / duc ui / There are several duc browsers: ui is an ncurses-style TUI; there's also CLI, GUI and web-based ones. The GUI and web-based ones use a nice

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07[Fri]23:14 🦓 read that 2025-03-07[Fri]07:21 Greg Wooledge wrote That's conceptually similar to the little program that I wrote, which you can get from . It's in perl. Wow! Looks backward compatible with perl4.036 - what do i need to write to make ds i

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? i run apt-get autoclean once in a while af

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:20:30 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > For Debian packages specifically, you can use dpigs from the debian-goodies > package. I wrote an alternative for situations where I don't want to install > debian-goodies and its transitive dependencies: > > awk -v RS='' '/St

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Wed Mar 5, 2025 at 2:22 PM GMT, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? I favour "duc

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 at 15:46, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Pro tip: running "sudo apt clean" often frees up significant disk space > (relatively, in machines with tiny storage capacity) by removing all > cached package files from /var/cache/apt/archives. Hi, another pro-tip: While 'apt-get' does keep

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 09:59:47 -0500, Eben King wrote: > Yeah. Many of the packages in deborphan's output are things I actually > want to keep, and I think that that if you remove something, all of its > requirements are still installed. Unless there's a smart package > manager that goes throug

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On 3/6/25 00:21, David Wright wrote: On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomi

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 15:21:32 +0100, 🦓 wrote: > what would i want to sudo aptitude purge here to free 1 gig? Why are you assuming that the space you want can be freed by removing packages? For the vast majority of people, if disk space is running low, it's because *data* files are piling up, a

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

about deborphan am i havin da same sentiment plus hard time tryna interpret da deborphan decimals due 2 my insufficient rtfm of manpages.debian.org/bookworm/deborphan/deborphan.1.en.html (debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ sudo aptitude install deborphan […] Unpacking dialog (1.3-20190211-1) ... Set

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: > On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > > to ergonomically present installed candid

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

🦓 wrote: sudo aptitude purge libqt5webengine5 blackmailed me to purge qutebrowser now. sudo aptitude purge libllvm7 demands i pure ffmpeg links2 xorg. sudo aptitude search l10n local | grep ^i finds no localedef. sudo aptitude purge liblocale-gettext-perl also purges console-setup debconf-i18n t

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