Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-06-01 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: ... > Thanks for this description of a real world procedure. > Now i know at least that i am not the only one who cares about the > post-upgrade steps in the manual. I already began to think that everybody > lets the surplus packages rot in the dark. i have been running the

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-06-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Florent Rougon wrote: > AFAIK, these are not wildcards; each star appended to a package name > indicates that the package is going to be purged At least it is a good way to catch the attention of the apt operator. :)) > tl;dr: aptitude praise Thanks for this description of a real world pro

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-31 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 01/06/2024, Florent Rougon a écrit: > FWIW, removal of “obsolete or local” packages is easily done > interactively in aptitude: you go the the corresponding section of the > main screen, hit Enter, etc. The [ key recursively unfolds a section > (use ] to fold it back). You ask to purge a packa

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-31 Thread Florent Rougon
you go the the corresponding section of the main screen, hit Enter, etc. The [ key recursively unfolds a section (use ] to fold it back). You ask to purge a package by typing _ (removing with -, as in the venerable dselect). For actually obsolete packages, doing so will occasionally trigger a “depe

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, just for the archive: I think i found the source code which emits the "[...]" strings of apt-list: https://sources.debian.org/src/apt/2.9.4/apt-private/private-output.cc/#L292 The possible status strings are: [installed,upgradable to: ...] [installed,local] [installed,auto-removabl

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-31 Thread Curt
On 2024-05-30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Nevertheless it would be nice to find documentation about this kind of > info in the output of "apt list". I found this from an old post about Synaptic (the apt front-end), in the latter's "help page": Obsolete or locally installed - Display only packag

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > What kind of programming language can have inspired the developers > > to define such a syntax ? Max Nikulin: > https://blog.jak-linux.org/2019/08/15/apt-patterns/ This points to aptitude. The package description of aptitude says "mutt-like syntax for matching packages". Indeed

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 May 2024 at 18:20:25 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wonder why none of the electricians on this list has an anecdote to > share about dealing with "obsolete" packages after upgrade. > No triumphs, defeats, or global catastrophes ? Nowadays I install new releases f

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/05/2024 16:22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: apt-patterns(7) Wow. What kind of programming language can have inspired the developers to define such a syntax ? https://blog.jak-linux.org/2019/08/15/apt-patterns/ "apt list" has some limitations in comparison to "aptitude sear

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Florent Rougon
(A private package could very well be made available and installed from a private repository; or alternatively, installed with 'dpkg -i' without ever being put in an apt repository; therefore “has been installed in the past from an apt repository” is not a good criterion to distingui

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
'?installed !?obsolete' | grep local shows only some packages with "locale" in their name, but none with "local" in the []-brackets. On the other hand apt list '?installed ?obsolete' | grep -v 'local]$' shows no packages, i.e. all lines of obsolete

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi Thomas, Le 30/05/2024, "Thomas Schmitt" a écrit: > Next documenation riddle is what the word "local" means in output lines > like > > linux-image-5.10.0-rc2-ts/now 5.10.0-rc2-ts-37 amd64 [installed,local] I don't use this but guess it is as in aptitude, where “obsolete/local packages” are

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
I use "apt autoremove", I am given a list of proposed removals and > a prompt about whether I want to proceed. Good to know that there are safeguards when i finally remove some of the "obsolete" packages. I wrote: > > How could i get a list of only the automatical

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/05/2024 23:20, Thomas Schmitt wrote: How could i get a list of only the automatically installed obsolete packages ? (I still did not find any documentation about the '~c' or '~o' with "apt list".) apt-patterns(7) and dpkg(1). Apt can not distinguish packag

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-29 Thread Mike Kupfer
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > But i am not sure whether the commercial package which i have to keep > will be preserved with "apt autoremove". > Is there a way to do a dry run which only tells what would happen if i > were more courageous ? When I use "apt autoremove", I am given a list of proposed rem

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wonder why none of the electricians on this list has an anecdote to share about dealing with "obsolete" packages after upgrade. No triumphs, defeats, or global catastrophes ? I wrote: > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.h t

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-05-28 at 15:02, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 28.05.2024 um 20:38:46 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schmitt: >> What does "[residual-config]" mean ? > > Packages include system-wide configuration files. If packages are > removed, this configuration will not be deleted. You need to purge > such packages t

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-28 Thread Marco Moock
> > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#obsolete Packages have dependencies. Those will be marked as automatically installed. They can be removed if no other package depends on them. You can do that with the autopurge/autoremove apt command. Be awa

After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
cd-gtk/now 1.7.4+tb2-6 all [residual-config] What does "[residual-config]" mean ? The man page of apt is quite sparse. Is there something more detailed available online ? apt list '~o' shows 220 "obsolete packages", of which at least one is a commercial non-Deb

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-25 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-23 18:02, Clive Standbridge wrote: Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? Yes. I have done that, and the old squirrelmail package remained installed in buster. I don't remember any special effort to keep it, but it was a while ago. You'd better make sure yo

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Clive Standbridge
> Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at a time > when I was not aware of the potential problem), and squirrelmail still works > fine. > > Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? Yes. I have done that, and the old squirrelmail package remai

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I use squirrelmail, and squirrelmail uses php5. > Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at > a time when I was not aware of the potential problem), and > squirrelmail still works fine. > Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to

Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Jesper Dybdal
I use squirrelmail, and squirrelmail uses php5. Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at a time when I was not aware of the potential problem), and squirrelmail still works fine. Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? (Yes, I know I shoul

Re: [SOLVED] How to identify obsolete packages

2015-11-01 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Stephen Powell wrote on 10/31/2015 17:30: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:28:26 -0400 (EDT), Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: >> >> Here is one way. >> >> To identify packages that are no longer present in the archive >> >> % apt-show-versions -r . | grep "No available version in archive" > > That's what I

Re: [SOLVED] How to identify obsolete packages

2015-10-31 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:28:26 -0400 (EDT), Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: >> >> Here is one way. >> >> To identify packages that are no longer present in the archive >> >> % apt-show-versions -r . | grep "No available version in archive" > >

Re: How to identify obsolete packages

2015-10-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:27:19 -0400 (EDT), Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I get aptitude to resolve recommended upgrades just by using the -r > switch on the command line. There's probably a way to do that using > g.u.i. but don't know that one yet. It's been a while now, but IIRC, this works for ins

Re: How to identify obsolete packages (was: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?)

2015-10-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
ebian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: How to identify obsolete packages (was: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?) Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:30:06 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:38:25 -0400 (EDT), Chris Bannister wrote:

[SOLVED] How to identify obsolete packages

2015-10-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:28:26 -0400 (EDT), Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > Here is one way. > > To identify packages that are no longer present in the archive > > % apt-show-versions -r . | grep "No available version in archive" That's what I'm talking about! Thanks! (Although it does requi

Re: How to identify obsolete packages (was: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?)

2015-10-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:38:48 -0400 (EDT), "Reco" wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:29:48 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> Does anyone know an easy way to identify obsolete packages without >> using aptitide? > > deborphan --guess-all According to

Re: How to identify obsolete packages (was: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?)

2015-10-31 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > Does anyone know an easy way to identify obsolete packages without > using aptitide? > Here is one way. To identify packages that are no longer present in the archive % apt-show-versions -r . | grep "No available v

Re: How to identify obsolete packages (was: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?)

2015-10-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > Does anyone know an easy way to identify obsolete packages without > using aptitide? deborphan --guess-all Reco

How to identify obsolete packages (was: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?)

2015-10-31 Thread Stephen Powell
ptitude. aptitude, when run with no parameters, provides a full-screen interface. This full-screen interface lists package categories which can be expanded. One category in particular is of interest to me: "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages". By expanding this category, I can identify obsol

Re: Re: Obsolete Packages

2015-08-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Aug 2015 at 19:51:58 +0100, Paul Lavender wrote: > No, it doesn't. I get a number to choose from, but not the one I want. 2.6 What doesn't? What are you referring to? Yoy have broken a thread and given no context for your reply. You may think you know what you mean. We do not. -- T

Re: Re: Obsolete Packages

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Lavender
No, it doesn't. I get a number to choose from, but not the one I want. 2.6 is there - I'm not sure why, 3.2 - was that the last Wheezy, and 3.16 which is the most recent Jessie, I think. Unfortunately 3.16 doesn't work for me, there are problems in the SATA drivers on my ITX atom board. I'm afra

Re: Obsolete Packages

2015-08-05 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 05 August 2015 19:24:19 Brian wrote: > On Wed 05 Aug 2015 at 18:05:01 +0100, Paul Lavender wrote: > > I'm using kernel 3.13.5-1-amd64, which was released on a a pre-release > > Jessie. How can I find the headers? Obviously the world has moved on and > > the linux-headers-amd64 no longe

Re: Obsolete Packages

2015-08-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 06:05:01PM +0100, Paul Lavender wrote: > I'm using kernel 3.13.5-1-amd64, which was released on a a > pre-release Jessie. How can I find the headers? Obviously the world > has moved on and the linux-headers-amd64 no longer has them. > Does `apt-cache search linux-headers`

Re: Obsolete Packages

2015-08-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Aug 2015 at 18:05:01 +0100, Paul Lavender wrote: > I'm using kernel 3.13.5-1-amd64, which was released on a a pre-release > Jessie. How can I find the headers? Obviously the world has moved on and the > linux-headers-amd64 no longer has them. http://snapshot.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSC

Obsolete Packages

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Lavender
I'm using kernel 3.13.5-1-amd64, which was released on a a pre-release Jessie. How can I find the headers? Obviously the world has moved on and the linux-headers-amd64 no longer has them. Thanks Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Thanks Bob for the pointer. Yes the patch works. I also saw your reply to the > bug report. Good idea. And the bug in apt-show-versions was fixed and uploaded and all is good now. And a correction for my previous message which mentioned Jessie. As far as I can see the

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-20 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Thanks Bob for the pointer. Yes the patch works. I also saw your reply to the bug report. Good idea. -- Regards, jvp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.or

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I think everyone should be worried about removed but not purged > > packages too. Otherwise they are a source of lint that builds up on a > > system. > > apt-cache show cruft I had forgotten about cruft. I just tried it again after many years. It

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Note that apt-show-versions is not able to find installed packages > which are no longer available in the suite/release, e.g. on a > testing/sid system, the packages libtiff4 or xlockmore. Works in Wheezy. Wheezy$ apt-show-versions | grep xlockmore xlockmore 1:5.31-

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 04:36:06PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > I think everyone should be worried about removed but not purged > packages too. Otherwise they are a source of lint that builds up on a > system. apt-cache show cruft I believe that lint is a c code checker. :) -- "If you're not ca

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-19 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Note that apt-show-versions is not able to find installed packages which are no longer available in the suite/release, e.g. on a testing/sid system, the packages libtiff4 or xlockmore. -- Regards, jvp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Fredrik Jonson wrote: > Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote on 01/14/2015 06:25: > > > Fredrik Jonson wrote: > > > > I'm trying to find obsolete packages on a system that's been > > > > dist-upgraded. How would you [do

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-17 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote on 01/14/2015 06:25: > > Fredrik Jonson wrote: > > > I'm trying to find obsolete packages on a system that's been > > > dist-upgraded. How would you [do that without using] aptitude? > > > > Try this

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-17 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hi, Bob Proulx wrote on 01/14/2015 06:25: > Fredrik Jonson wrote: >> Here's a small challenge. I'm trying to find obsolete or orphaned packages >> on a system that's been dist-upgraded. >> ... >> How would you accomplish that assuming you cannot use aptitude? > > Try this: > > apt-show-version

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-14 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Bob Proulx wrote: > Try this: > >apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate > > Or read my answer posted here Saturday: > >https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg00358.html Thanks, excellent. I'll try to improve the variety of my search phrases, and digging deeper in the archive

Re: Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Fredrik Jonson wrote: > Here's a small challenge. I'm trying to find obsolete or orphaned packages > on a system that's been dist-upgraded. > ... > How would you accomplish that assuming you cannot use aptitude? Try this: apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate Or read my answer posted here Satur

Find obsolete packages without using aptitude?

2015-01-13 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Hi All, Here's a small challenge. I'm trying to find obsolete or orphaned packages on a system that's been dist-upgraded. Aptitude can give me list with this query: aptitude search ?obsolete The definition of that query is: "This term matches any installed package which is not available in any

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:56:44 -0500, Timothy Legg wrote: > I wish to bring up something that bothers me. > > I just installed a stable Debian package that advertises to perform so > many wonderful tasks, but in reality, it does little more than provide > an attractive graphical interface for a seg

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 03:59:29PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > It's called "do-not-feed-the-troll". Package not found. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On 08/18/2010 02:48 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:56:44PM -0500, Timothy Legg wrote: I just installed a stable Debian package that advertises to perform so many wonderful tasks, but in reality, it does little more than provide an attractive graphical interface for a segment

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:56:44PM -0500, Timothy Legg wrote: > I just installed a stable Debian package that advertises to perform so > many wonderful tasks, but in reality, it does little more than provide an > attractive graphical interface for a segmentation fault. > > I searched google and in

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/18/2010 03:21 PM, Celejar wrote: > If it's as broken as you say, there ought to be a bug of 'grave' > severity filed against the package (whether or not a fixed version is > available). Is there? If so, that would be a release-critical bug, >

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:56:44 -0500 (CDT) "Timothy Legg" wrote: > Hello, > > I wish to bring up something that bothers me. > > I just installed a stable Debian package that advertises to perform so > many wonderful tasks, but in reality, it does little more than provide an > attractive graphical

Re: Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:56:44 -0500 (CDT) "Timothy Legg" wrote: > Hello, > > I wish to bring up something that bothers me. > > I just installed a stable Debian package that advertises to perform > so many wonderful tasks, but in reality, it does little more than > provide an attractive graphical

Broken/Obsolete packages - I think we can do better.

2010-08-18 Thread Timothy Legg
Hello, I wish to bring up something that bothers me. I just installed a stable Debian package that advertises to perform so many wonderful tasks, but in reality, it does little more than provide an attractive graphical interface for a segmentation fault. I searched google and indeed found others

Re: Dealing with obsolete packages

2008-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:36:29PM +, T o n g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:44:26 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > or just push "-" on the header of the group if you're using the curses > > interface. > > That's what I thought. I press "-" on the spot marked a

Re: Dealing with obsolete packages

2008-10-01 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:44:26 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > or just push "-" on the header of the group if you're using the curses > interface. That's what I thought. I press "-" on the spot marked as "*" in the following: Actions Undo Package Resolver Search Options Views Help C-T: Menu

Re: Dealing with obsolete packages

2008-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:29:41AM +0100, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > I know that aptitude gui interface can show all those obsolete packages > > by sections. my questions are: > > > > - how can I tag all obsolete packages in a section, the

Re: Dealing with obsolete packages

2008-10-01 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 06:11:47 +, T o n g ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > I know that aptitude gui interface can show all those obsolete packages > by sections. my questions are: > > - how can I tag all obsolete packages in a section, then remove them? >

Dealing with obsolete packages

2008-09-30 Thread T o n g
Hi, I know that aptitude gui interface can show all those obsolete packages by sections. my questions are: - how can I tag all obsolete packages in a section, then remove them? - how can I get such obsolete packages list on command line? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http

Re: Obsolete Packages

2007-11-13 Thread Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman wrote: I just ran 'aptitude update' and noticed in Aptitude there is a section called "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages". How come it would list "linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7" as obsolete? Isn't that my kernel? I am running Testing. It is also listing: g++-4.2 gcc-4.2 linux-

Obsolete Packages

2007-11-13 Thread Jeff Grossman
I just ran 'aptitude update' and noticed in Aptitude there is a section called "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages". How come it would list "linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7" as obsolete? Isn't that my kernel? I am running Testing. It is also listing: g++-4.2 gcc-4.2 linux-headers-2.6.22-2 linux

Re: obsolete packages

2007-05-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:54:15AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I'm running Sid. What's the way to find out what packages are obsolete and what they should be replaced with? Your question is pretty vague. What do you mean by obsolete? AFAIK if you remove etch and

Re: obsolete packages

2007-05-27 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:02:25 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:54:15AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm running Sid. > > What's the way to find out what packages are obsolete and what they > > should be replaced with? > > Your question

Re: obsolete packages

2007-05-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:54:15AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Sid. > What's the way to find out what packages are obsolete and what they > should be replaced with? Your question is pretty vague. What do you mean by obsolete? AFAIK if you remove etch and lenny from sourc

Re: obsolete packages

2007-05-26 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugo Vanwoerkom escribió: > Hi, > > I'm running Sid. > What's the way to find out what packages are obsolete and what they > should be replaced with? # aptitude update Updates de DB of package that repos have avaible. # aptitude upgrade Updates your

obsolete packages

2007-05-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, I'm running Sid. What's the way to find out what packages are obsolete and what they should be replaced with? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sarge->Etch: which obsolete packages can be removed?

2007-05-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
x27;t be affected by what? The recompilation? > > > No - by purging the "obsolete" packages. Correct. Etch is self-contained. None of the packages in etch depends on obsolete packages. -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sarge->Etch: which obsolete packages can be removed?

2007-05-23 Thread Robert S
>> Yes - when I get back from my trip overseas and am able to fix up any >> damage! I assume that packages that are part of etch won't be >> affected?? > > Won't be affected by what? The recompilation? > No - by purging the "obsolete" packages.

Re: Sarge->Etch: which obsolete packages can be removed?

2007-05-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:04:45 +1000 "Robert S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It could indeed wreck locally compiled packages, because aptitude > > has no idea of the requirements of those packages. Have you > > considered recompiling them? > > > > Yes - when I get back from my trip overseas and a

Re: Sarge->Etch: which obsolete packages can be removed?

2007-05-23 Thread Robert S
> It could indeed wreck locally compiled packages, because aptitude has no > idea of the requirements of those packages. Have you considered > recompiling them? > Yes - when I get back from my trip overseas and am able to fix up any damage! I assume that packages that are part of etch won't be a

Re: Sarge->Etch: which obsolete packages can be removed?

2007-05-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:02:46 +1000 "Robert S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had a debian machine running for a number of years and I've > upgraded from woody->sarge->etch. > > Looking at the listing in aptitude there are a lot of "obsolete&qu

Sarge->Etch: which obsolete packages can be removed?

2007-05-23 Thread Robert S
I've had a debian machine running for a number of years and I've upgraded from woody->sarge->etch. Looking at the listing in aptitude there are a lot of "obsolete" packages - such as gcc-2.95, gcc-3.0, python-2.1, ipchains, libdb2, libnewt0, libreadline3, slang1. I

Kernel 2.4 obsolete packages

2005-06-24 Thread Bill Wohler
I removed the kernel-image-2.4 and related packages. By related, I mean "kernel-*-2.4*". However, are there other now obsolete packages I can remove? For example, I've already removed devfsd (in favor of udev). Can I remove modutils? Are there other packages I can remove? -- Bill

Re: Obsolete packages?

2001-05-27 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I run debian testing and I was looking under the obsolete and locally created >packages in aptitude, and it appears that a lot of packages I use have been >obsoleted. These include kdebase, all the X packages, and a few others. So i >went to the debian website, and chec

Obsolete packages?

2001-05-26 Thread Mike Cook
I run debian testing and I was looking under the obsolete and locally created packages in aptitude, and it appears that a lot of packages I use have been obsoleted. These include kdebase, all the X packages, and a few others. So i went to the debian website, and checked to make sure and sure eno

Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-04 Thread Iwan Mouwen
* Karsten M. Self [010404 09:45]: > What you want is "apt-get clean" > > > > "autoclean" only removes packages that can no longer be downloaded. > > ...which is to say, packages which have been replaced by updated > versions. > > What he wants _is_ autoclean, why it's not working, or his unde

Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* Karsten M. Self [030401 20:30]: > on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:52:02PM -0500, Robert A. Jacobs ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > > * Iwan Mouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030401 19:28]: > > > Hi, > > > > > > is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other > > > directory) for which

Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:52:02PM -0500, Robert A. Jacobs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Iwan Mouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030401 19:28]: > > Hi, > > > > is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other > > directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory. > > My

Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* Iwan Mouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030401 19:28]: > Hi, > > is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other > directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory. > My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and > I want to remove them. apt-g

Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:09:18AM +0200, Iwan Mouwen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other > directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory. > My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and

removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Iwan Mouwen
Hi, is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory. My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and I want to remove them. apt-get autoclean doesn't seem to do what I want. Iwan.

Re: Obsolete packages

2000-09-25 Thread Hansmartin Dettinger
Hi, same prob as mine my solution was: change the access method of dselect. The package-file of dselect is not updated, this is done in the apt-folder. -- > Von: Harry Henry Gebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Re: Obsolete packages &

Re: Obsolete packages

2000-09-24 Thread Harry Henry Gebel
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 06:20:01PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: > > just upgraded my system from a mix of Test 1 and Test 3 to the full 2.2 > > release. Noticed that I now appear to have alot of "Obsolete/local > > Optional packages" now showing in dselect. According to the docs the > Perhaps you sh

Re: Obsolete packages

2000-09-24 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hi, > > just upgraded my system from a mix of Test 1 and Test 3 to the full 2.2 > release. Noticed that I now appear to have alot of "Obsolete/local Optional > packages" now showing in dselect. According to the docs the best way to get > rid of this (as these packages are the current versio

Obsolete packages

2000-09-23 Thread Debian User
Hi, just upgraded my system from a mix of Test 1 and Test 3 to the full 2.2 release. Noticed that I now appear to have alot of "Obsolete/local Optional packages" now showing in dselect. According to the docs the best way to get rid of this (as these packages are the current versions) is to ru

Glimpse (Re: obsolete packages in dselect)

2000-05-20 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Gary" == Gary Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gary> If you don't need them then it's generally safe to delete obsolete Gary> packages. I have a couple that I keep around because there's no Gary> replacement in potato. glimpse for example is obsoleted but there's Gary> n

Re: obsolete packages in dselect

2000-05-18 Thread Ron Rademaker
As far as I know obsolete means something as: old, not needed any more or there are better packages to replace this one with. You can remove them if you want to, as long as they don't give any conflicts it won't matter if you leave them on. Ron Rademaker On Thu, 18 May 2000, A. Scott White wrote:

Re: obsolete packages in dselect

2000-05-18 Thread Gary Hennigan
eed them then it's generally safe to delete obsolete packages. I have a couple that I keep around because there's no replacement in potato. glimpse for example is obsoleted but there's nothing to substitue for it so I keep it around. Gary

obsolete packages in dselect

2000-05-18 Thread A. Scott White
I recently upgraded to Potato and Linux 2.2.15 Now, when I go into dselect->select several packages are listed as Obsolete. What, exactly, does this mean? Should I remove these packages? Thanks. A. Scott White Director of Information Systems a

Re: obsolete packages after potato upgrade...

2000-01-22 Thread John Foster
rich wrote: > > Is it OK to remove all of the packages that dselect calls "obsolete" > after potato upgrade? - I would be careful about that. Some of your custom installed software may need some of the

RE: obsolete packages after potato upgrade...

2000-01-21 Thread Bryan Scaringe
Generally, yes. Just use dselect to do it. If it bitches about broken dependencies, put it back. Bryan On 21-Jan-2000 rich wrote: > Is it OK to remove all of the packages that dselect calls "obsolete" > after potato upgrade? > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >

obsolete packages after potato upgrade...

2000-01-21 Thread rich
Is it OK to remove all of the packages that dselect calls "obsolete" after potato upgrade?

Upgrading obsolete packages using dselect

1998-04-29 Thread Mario Filipe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi My pc has a number of these obsolete packages. How can i update them using dselect ? Thanks Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv

Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Lukas Eppler hat gesagt: // Lukas Eppler wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote: > > > > "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also > > Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed? > > > >

Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-18 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote: > > "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also > Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed? > > Lukas> Or, if I remove a file from perl-base, is /usr/bin/perl

Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-18 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote: > > "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also > Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed? > dpkg will refuse to remove a package if it removal would break another >

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