Re: Enlightenment 0.27 in new Debian release

2025-01-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Jan 15, 2025 at 5:31 PM GMT, Paulo Igor Barra Nascimento wrote: Any chances to see E27 in Trixie release? Reasonable chance I think, unless the changes in E27 are contrary to the DFSG or something (unlikely). The enlightenment package appears to be currently maintained. You would get a

Enlightenment 0.27 in new Debian release

2025-01-15 Thread Paulo Igor Barra Nascimento
Any chances to see E27 in Trixie release?

Re: Mailing list conduct and long threads [WAS new computer arriving soon etc.]

2025-01-12 Thread hlyg
is it possible for moderator to remove posts that go astray too far when archiving?

Mailing list conduct and long threads [WAS new computer arriving soon etc.]

2025-01-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
This is is a formal request to end participation in the long threads currently running on this list. Since the beginning of January 2025, the majority of list traffic has been taken up by long threads. At least one of these has carried on since last month. Please refrain from off-topic discussion

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-09 Thread David Wright
On Fri 03 Jan 2025 at 10:54:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > Heh. I remember a 300 baud modem where you had to dial the number on a phone > and then flip the switch on the modem when the other end answered. Whether > you selected the answer or originate mode was a crap shoot, there we

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 1/1/25 7:04 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 31/12/2024 11:01, Marc Shapiro wrote: What about LVM?  Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI? Do you expect expect UEFI boot from purely LVM drives? Out of the box EFI system partition (fat) must be outside of LVM volumes. There is a chance that s

Re: /dev/serial/by-id (was: Re: new computer arriving soon)

2025-01-05 Thread gene heskett
On 1/4/25 22:54, Max Nikulin wrote: On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote: One does get tired and short tempered when a copy/paste error post bullseye that wrecks udev is said to not be fixed before trixie. Thats not excusable when the fix is a one line patch we've all done years ago. Get

Re: Gene and networkmanager (was: Re: new computer arriving soon)

2025-01-05 Thread gene heskett
On 1/4/25 22:47, Max Nikulin wrote: On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote: On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin" On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Lookup Gene and network

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-04 Thread David Wright
On Sat 04 Jan 2025 at 05:19:23 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > I also have a couple radio clocks that self set in the wee hours when > skip from WWWV in Boulder CO is best, they indicate good signals, but > are off an hour, like the timezone files are duff. However, when I > went to check them at 04

/dev/serial/by-id (was: Re: new computer arriving soon)

2025-01-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote: One does get tired and short tempered when a copy/paste error post bullseye that wrecks udev is said to not be fixed before trixie. Thats not excusable when the fix is a one line patch we've all done years ago. Get it from a pinned post on discord/klippe

Gene and networkmanager (was: Re: new computer arriving soon)

2025-01-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote: On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin" On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Lookup Gene and networkmanager, I wrote my previous just to

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-04 Thread gene heskett
On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin" On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Lookup Gene and networkmanager, Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My impressi

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/01/2025 23:05, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin" On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Lookup Gene and networkmanager, Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My impression is that despite NetworkManager can ea

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computerarrivingsoon]

2025-01-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/01/2025 11:06, gene heskett wrote: On 1/2/25 21:32, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/01/2025 05:01, gene heskett wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Suitable substitute? Display is wayland so X is out. root not allowed. Gene, have you tried

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread gene heskett
o get a computer to do what you want. Myself I have my suspicions that all the nuances and complications may have been introduced by the control freaks who do not want us free to do our own thing. mick Precisely Mick. I'm for instance, running a 11x54 Sheldon metal lathe, teaching it new da

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 10:54:21AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: And of course people would pick up the phone while you were connected... When I got a second phone for the modem I was truly living the dream. :D

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 02 January 2025 06:48:20 pm Andy Smith wrote: > >  24TB drive - WOW - just thinking about that hurts. > > Even several models of NVMe are available now at ~61TB with ~122TB > coming soon. 😀 > >     > https://www.servethehome.com/the-samsung-bm1743-is-a-61-44tb-today-with-a-122-88tb-d

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 02 January 2025 06:43:07 pm George at Clug wrote: > > Maybe as good as your phone...this was probably 30 years ago or more. > > LOL - I do recall using 1200 and 2400 baud modems.  When 9600 baud modems > came out, it was like WOW.  (ouch the memory cells hurt) > Heh. I remember a 3

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computerarrivingsoon]

2025-01-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 10:52:14PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/2/25 17:16, Andy Smith wrote: > > Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how to use their > > operating system instead of us poor uninformed Debian folks? > > Igor is busy, often answering his email long a

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 02:20:19AM +, mick.crane wrote: > I've no idea what gene is talking about but his questions indicate somebody > who wants to be in control of his own operating system. It isn't possible to advise when his problems are complex and the operating system he wants contr

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-03 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-01-03 02:59, gene heskett wrote: On 1/2/25 21:20, mick.crane wrote: On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other syst

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computerarrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On 1/2/25 21:32, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/01/2025 05:01, gene heskett wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Suitable substitute? Display is wayland so X is out. root not allowed. Gene, have you tried to type this command name into a search

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computerarrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On 1/2/25 17:16, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Gene, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On 1/2/25 21:20, mick.crane wrote: On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other systems, but tentatively and with warnings th

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 8:22 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > sudo apt install sgdisk > > unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. > > Can you remind us why you do not ask the

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/01/2025 05:01, gene heskett wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Suitable substitute? Display is wayland so X is out. root not allowed. Gene, have you tried to type this command name into a search engine prompt? Have you read "man man

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other systems, but tentatively and with warnings that it may not work. "Gene is a speci

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-01-02 22:16, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Gene, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks h

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 10:34:47AM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:57 Michael Stone wrote: > > Spinning disks are slow; 8 hours for 3TB is about 100MB/s and 8h is > > about how much time I'd expect it to take to write a commodity disk that > > size. It becomes real

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 10:18 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 09:59:20AM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > >> i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives > >> lvm came in pretty handy :) > > I have no go

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:57 Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >I once used/tested with RAID 6 and was amazed how long it took to rebuild a > >3TB swapped hard drive (about 8 hours, if I recall). (This was using an Intel 8 port SAS/SATA

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 09:59:20AM +1100, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives lvm came in pretty handy :) I have no good memories of hpux servers. :-D But yes, the linux LVM was inspired

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 11:24:10PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: But… do we really car? We kinda do when one person one person can generate 10% of list traffic and drive another 20%, especially if the results of all that traffic is basically nothing positive. (For year after year after year.)

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 22:46:07 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives > lvm came in pretty handy :) To be fair, HP-UX did not have the concept of disk partitions. There was no msdos or gpt. Just "use the entire disk" or "use LVM on the

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >> LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical > >> drives. Storage space is allocated as

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: I once used/tested with RAID 6 and was amazed how long it took to rebuild a 3TB swapped hard drive (about 8 hours, if I recall). Spinning disks are slow; 8 hours for 3TB is about 100MB/s and 8h is about how much time I'd expect i

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:39 Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical > >drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical > >Volumes. > > Yes and no

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: >> LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical >> drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical >> Volumes. > > Yes and no. LVM was intr

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 10:04:51AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: I am unsure if grub images signed for Secure Boot include LVM drivers or /boot should be outside of LVM as well. grub should work fine these days without /boot being a separate partition, unless you encrypt / (in which case you need

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical Volumes. Yes and no. LVM was introduced to allow flexibility in how you assign space.

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread Nicolas George
Andy Smith (12025-01-02): > Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how to use their > operating system instead of us poor uninformed Debian folks? But… do we really car? It is a staple of online mutual help forums that people who are rude and disparaging or people who post wrong a

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > sudo apt install sgdisk > unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how to use their operating system inst

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

2025-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 06:54:55PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actual

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread pocket
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Lookup Gene and networkmanager, > > Do you really

Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arriving soon]

2025-01-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 06:54:55PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to > > > > > > combine 4 > > > > > > ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are > > > > > > somewhat confusing, lacking the context that a

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Lookup Gene and networkmanager, Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My impression is that despite NetworkManager can easily handle his cases, he often demonstrate unmotivated aggression against NetworkManager developers. The

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/01/2025 11:22, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote: The problem is that he can not use some search engine to find guides related to LVM. He believes that everything must be documented in man pages, but he ignores any tool that may help to find locally installed man pag

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 04:46:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The hardware I use has nothing non-std in the field I work in. But 99% of > you folks haven't the foggiest idea of what we get the dirt under our > fingernails from, or how we "get it done". I'm disappointed to read that you

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread George at Clug
On Thursday, 02-01-2025 at 15:22 gene heskett wrote: > > On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to > combine

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread David Wright
ime to do that. And not specific to this forum. [ … ] In case you are interested to finance research to get further, try here [1]. [ … ] I am a fairly new user of the M5. I have tried and am still trying various os on this SBC to try and make the best use of its various options. This in

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/01/2025 09:36, poc...@homemail.com wrote: From: "Max Nikulin" On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Try to get it corrected and you will/must be attacked. My experience does not match yours. Of course it doesn't, people here are not 100% against you What wiki pages you tri

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 10:29 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 02/01/2025 09:36, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >> From: "Max Nikulin" > >> On 01/01/

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/12/2024 11:01, Marc Shapiro wrote: What about LVM?  Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI? Do you expect expect UEFI boot from purely LVM drives? Out of the box EFI system partition (fat) must be outside of LVM volumes. There is a chance that somebody has written a LVM driver for UEFI

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 23:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: You forgot this one. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail Description=Fetchmail After=network.target [Service] User=fetchmail ExecStart=/usr/bin/fetchmail --pidfile /run/fetchmail/fetchmailrc.pid -f /etc/fetchmailr

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: In the great number of cases most look to Archlinux for setting up and running packages. Why because the wiki is no nonsense and just works in almost every case. debians wiki is woefully incomplete and contains old out dated information which in mos

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actu

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:19 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > In the great number of cases most look to Archlinux for s

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:09 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 01/01/2025 23:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > You forgot this one. > > > > https://git

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/12/2024 01:15, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: it was less sharp than I get with my old Epson Perfection 2400 (from 2004) It might be difference due to technologies. The older one likely use "white" lamp and color filters over CCD array. New cheaper approach is a line of

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other systems, but tentatively and with warnings that it may not work. "Gene is a special case in that he uses non-standard har

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread gene heskett
he same) people posting problems that nobody can or will solve, do they feel encouraged to post their own questions? The people who have been around just delete the noise on autopilot--which is certainly a useful coping mechanism--but where does that leave new arrivals and what does that

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2025-01-01 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
-dpi high-quality JPG with other software. So the Brother gives good quality when scanning as TIF but not as JPG. Thanks. From: Roy J. Tellason, Sr. Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 4:53 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: seeking new la

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
ody can or will solve, do they feel encouraged to post their own questions? The people who have been around just delete the noise on autopilot--which is certainly a useful coping mechanism--but where does that leave new arrivals and what does that do to the basic character of the list? The inte

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 11:51 AM > From: "Michael Stone" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 05:18:58PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >Thank you for proving my point,

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
hich isn't from "debian folks", but from other users fed up with your behavior? Any way I don't use debian for any new installs any more having gone to Archlinux. Arch was way less trouble and I got what I wanted without removing a ton of installed things I just didn't need

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:37:38 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > You've been trolling with messages that add exactly zero value,… Please don't feed the trolls. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 10:37 AM > From: "Michael Stone" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 03:35:25PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >I was just attacked on this list fo

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
king, there's simply exhaustion and a failure to understand why the two of you act the way that you do. And real confusion about why people who have so many problems with debian continue to hang out on this list instead of going off to something they like better. The only major problem with this l

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:28 AM > From: "Frank Guthausen" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 > poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > debians wiki is woefull

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > debians wiki is woefully incomplete and > contains old out dated information which in most cases it just flat > out incorrect. This happens when no individual person takes responsibility for updating things. You could be this person

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 6:54 PM > From: "gene heskett" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > > > If these are Banana Pi 5 and you want them supported *in Debian*, go and > > talk to the folks on IRC

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-31 Thread gene heskett
On 12/31/24 17:51, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 04:53:53PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/31/24 12:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Marc Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 04:53:53PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/31/24 12:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Marc > > > > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 > > > > ea 4T SSD's into one

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-31 Thread gene heskett
On 12/31/24 12:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Marc Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat confusing, lacking the context that

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-31 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 30 December 2024 01:15:31 pm Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: > 3. With xscan, the scan quality is good enough for most purposes.  But when I > tested some fine engraving (like a dollar bill), it was less sharp than I get > with my old Epson Perfection 2400 (from 2004).  In both cases I

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-31 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:01:41 -0800 Marc Shapiro wrote: > > What about LVM?  Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI? UEFI has an effect on installing and finding the bootloader. The bootloader will boot the kernel as it does on legacy BIOS systems. Then the kernel is in charge and assembles devi

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-31 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 06:15:31PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: > On December 7, 2024 4:21 PM, I wrote: > > > If you are able, please recommend a black-and-white Postscript laser > > printer that will work well with Debian (Bookworm). ... > > With advice from the group, I bought a Brot

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Marc > > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 > > ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are > > somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actually teaches. > > Hi

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-31 Thread eben
rinter drivers. Does that >>>> even matter with a driverless printer? I also suspect the new device >>>> stub won't work from XP. I don't really need to print from XP, but it >>>> was sometimes convenient. >>> >>> Chances are XP w

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-31 Thread Dan Purgert
e a > >> symbolic link from that to /dev/usb/lp1. XP had a driver for the old > >> HP. Now, though, the devices and the printer have changed. In XP, I > >> can choose from a long list of prehistoric printer drivers. Does that > >> even matter with a driverle

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-31 Thread eben
On 12/31/24 07:44, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Dec 30, 2024, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: >> On December 7, 2024 4:21 PM, I wrote: >> >> I would typically print with something like "cat file > /dev/usb/lp1". >> Now, though, with the new laser and a straigh

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-31 Thread Dan Purgert
ecial device:A > > crw-rw 1 root lp 180, 1 Dec 3 08:53 /dev/usb/lp1 > > I would typically print with something like "cat file > /dev/usb/lp1". > Now, though, with the new laser and a straight USB connection (no > wireless), I see these in /dev/usb: > &

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-30 Thread gene heskett
On 12/30/24 23:02, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 12/27/24 8:19 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 26 Dec 2024 at 14:30:38 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 21 December 2024

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 12/27/24 8:19 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 26 Dec 2024 at 14:30:38 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Set

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-30 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
gt;> I would typically print with something like "cat file > /dev/usb/lp1". >> Now, though, with the new laser and a straight USB connection (no >> wireless), I see these in /dev/usb: >> >> crw--- 1 root root 180, 0 Dec 3 08:53 /dev/usb/hiddev0 >> -rw-r--r

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > I would typically print with something like "cat file > /dev/usb/lp1". Now, > though, with the new laser and a straight USB connection (no wireless), I see > these in /dev/usb: > > crw--- 1 root root 180, 0 Dec 3 08:53 /dev/usb/hiddev0 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2024-12-30 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
5MP connected with a USB-to-parallel adapter. I saw this character special device: crw-rw 1 root lp 180, 1 Dec 3 08:53 /dev/usb/lp1 I would typically print with something like "cat file > /dev/usb/lp1". Now, though, with the new laser and a straight USB connection (no w

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-27 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 26 December 2024 05:30:38 pm David Christensen wrote: > > It's a real PITA to switch which input this monitor is using,  taking many > > button presses on buttons that I can't even see because they're under the > > front of the monitor. > > So, you have two computers, two keyboards,

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 26 Dec 2024 at 14:30:38 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: > On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > > On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > Set the machine to boot in UEFI

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-26 Thread David Christensen
On 12/26/24 11:35, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 21 December 2024 08:14:11 pm Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 21 December 2024 02:20:20 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Set the machine to boot in UEFI mode if this is available rather than legacy MBR / both. Why is this preferable

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-26 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
and then figure out how to get the > data out of this one and into the new one. That's going to be the big thing, once I get that installed... > > Remember that the Debian desktop environment selection installs GNOME. > > If you specifically want one of the others,

new computer is here

2024-12-25 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
It arrived yesterday. The installation disc that I found is labeled "12.6 live", apparently downloaded back at the end of July. Installation went well, and after fiddling with things a bit I fired up synaptic package manager and started working on what I wanted to add to it and a few things

Re: Install vs Upgrade --was [Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-24 Thread Richard Owlett
ce on this box, I'd rather not go through that again multiple times, so I'm going to just install 12.something on the new machine and then try and port things over as best I can. [snip] i see you mention running a pretty light desktop management system so that also indicates someon

Re: Install vs Upgrade --was [Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-23 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
one through the whole upgrade of > > Debian once on this box, I'd rather not go through that again multiple > > times, > > so I'm going to just install 12.something on the new machine and then try > > and > > port things over as best I can. > > &g

Install vs Upgrade --was [Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
bother with to get things functional ... I'd much rather let the software set all of this up. I need to upgrade, anyhow. Having gone through the whole upgrade of Debian once on this box, I'd rather not go through that again multiple times, so I'm going to just install 12.so

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-22 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
from there. I'm currently using virtualbox on this > > machine, but would like to explore some other options for virtualization > > on the new box. > > > > Any suggestions as to how I might proceed to making things current and what > > other software I might

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-22 Thread songbird
would like to explore some other options for virtualization on > the new box. > > Any suggestions as to how I might proceed to making things current and what > other software I might want to include are welcomed... 12.something is stable. yet you say you want current... ? are you

UEFI, Export from Virtualbox [WAS Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
I plan to install > > > that, and then see what's on this workstation that I also might want to > > > install, and then go from there. I'm currently using virtualbox on this > > > machine, but would like to explore some other options for virtualization > &g

Re: new computer arriving soon

2024-12-21 Thread George at Clug
which I test a number of Linux distributions, and/or for running Windows in a VM, and a choice that would be cost effective, and not a waste of funds. I expect your new computer will run KVM/QEMU and Virtual Machine Manger very well. As I guess you know, please ensure that "Intel® Virtualiz

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