Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:21:44 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 20:45:26 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 > > > ermanno morelli wrote: > > Thank you. I've forwarded

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 20:45:26 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 > > ermanno morelli wrote: Thank you. I've forwarded this to the Debian Boot list, which I believe is the proper place for this.

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 > ermanno morelli wrote: > > > Buongiorno.c'è un problema con ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst. > > Nonfinisce l'installazione poiche manca IL KERNEL. come è pos

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 ermanno morelli wrote: > Buongiorno.c'è un problema con ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst. > Nonfinisce l'installazione poiche manca IL KERNEL. come è possibile > questa dimenticanza, visto che è un componente importante.Spero > ris

ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread ermanno morelli
Buongiorno.c'è un problema con ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst. Nonfinisce l'installazione poiche manca IL KERNEL. come è possibile questa dimenticanza, visto che è un componente importante.Spero risolvete questo problema. GRAZIE

Re: Debian 12.6.0 netinst and VirtualBox in EFI mode

2024-08-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 19:16:11 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > It's no particular help but the netinst is > probably not at fault in that I can install it under VMWare > on a Mac / kvm and qemu on a Linux system. 12.7 should be produced > on August 31st or so. An

Re: Debian 12.6.0 netinst and VirtualBox in EFI mode

2024-08-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 08:02:55PM +0200, Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: > Hi, > > > Did you guys tried to run installation of Debian 12.6.0 from netinst on > VirtualBox from current Debian SID in EFI mode? > Hi Lukasz Firstly: Virtualbox is in Sid (and nowhere else now) becau

Debian 12.6.0 netinst and VirtualBox in EFI mode

2024-08-09 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, Did you guys tried to run installation of Debian 12.6.0 from netinst on VirtualBox from current Debian SID in EFI mode? I was able to install Debian 12.6.0 only in non EFI mode on VB. Do you confirm my finding? Best, Łukasz

Re: Testing amd64 netinst LUKS+LVM install broken

2024-04-11 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le mercredi 10 avril 2024, 02:51:26 CEST Craig Hesling a écrit : > Hi all, > > I'm having an issue with the guided partitioner in the Debian testing amd64 > installer. > Specifically, the "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" > errors out and emit the following error message: > > pa

Re: Testing amd64 netinst LUKS+LVM install broken

2024-04-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-04-10 at 02:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 05:51:26PM -0700, Craig Hesling wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm having an issue with the guided partitioner in the Debian >> testing amd64 installer. Specifically, the "Guided - use entire >> disk and set up encrypted LVM"

Re: Testing amd64 netinst LUKS+LVM install broken

2024-04-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 05:51:26PM -0700, Craig Hesling wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having an issue with the guided partitioner in the Debian testing amd64 > installer. > Specifically, the "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" > errors out and emit the following error message: > > part

Re: Testing amd64 netinst LUKS+LVM install broken

2024-04-09 Thread Craig Hesling
I also, just tried the latest download from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/: md5sum debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso > e618afbebbbdf9495c74140bc87f2a4b debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso sha256sum debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso > a72e2cd87f8bc1af3a6df65a12194c8e043c

Testing amd64 netinst LUKS+LVM install broken

2024-04-09 Thread Craig Hesling
Hi all, I'm having an issue with the guided partitioner in the Debian testing amd64 installer. Specifically, the "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" errors out and emit the following error message: partman-lvm: pvcreate: error while loading shared libraries: libaio.so.1: cannot op

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread siso
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 6:30 PM Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Apologies, it's just too large at this point. Adding all the firmware > made things grow too much. We have some ideas on how to fix this, and > I hope that the 12.1 images will work better. Glad to hear this. Looking forward to debian-12.1

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread siso
r hope for a netinst-CD ISO without firmware as companion of the > netinst DVD ISO with firmware. > Once there was the "businesscard CD" ISO with less than 50 MiB. Very handy > for xorriso regression tests. Yes, I hope so too. The 300+MB netinst CD isos of previous releases were a

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
j...@jretrading.com wrote: >On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:30:04 +0100 >Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> ssmcmlxx+debianu...@gmail.com wrote: >> >I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using >> >cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. >> >> Apologies, it's just too large at

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:10:48 +0100 Joe wrote: > Tom used to get 1.7MB on a 1.44MB > floppy, If you mean Tom's rootboot, tomsrtbt: he got some of that "compression" by adding extra tracks beyond the 1.44MB. It is also possible to add an extra sector per track. (But not all floppy drives supported

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
ssmcmlxx+debianu...@gmail.com wrote: >I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using >cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. Apologies, it's just too large at this point. Adding all the firmware made things grow too much. We have some ideas on how to fix this, and

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Pierre Tomon
The mini.iso image is 62M: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread mick.crane
On 2023-06-18 23:48, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Once there was the "businesscard CD" ISO with less than 50 MiB. Very handy for xorriso regression tests. 30 something Mb, Slitaz would fit on them. mick

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joe wrote: > Just a thought: Knoppix has never considered 700MB much of a limit. > "Because of its transparent decompression, up to 2 gigabyes of > executable software can be present on a CD, and up to 10GB on a > single-layered DVD." Debian ISOs have all their big data files compressed: kern

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Joe
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 05:51:09 +0800 siso wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 3:32 AM Thomas Schmitt > wrote: > > > > You ran into a known bug of cdrskin which will be fixed by version > > 1.5.6. It did not even try to burn more than the official number of > > blocks. > > > > Nevertheless it

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
or now. Bug 1038440 meanwhile has a comment by Cyril Brulebois: > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/-/issues/3 has: > Revisit firmware packages included in the netinst (amd64 is 738M for > 12.0.0): at least nvidia stuff wasn't planned in the beginning, and > co

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread siso
Hi, On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 3:32 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > You ran into a known bug of cdrskin which will be fixed by version 1.5.6. > It did not even try to burn more than the official number of blocks. > > Nevertheless it most probably would not have worked, because 36 MiB of > overburning i

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, siso wrote: > I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using > cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. Righteously. The ISO is just too large for "700 MB" CDs. In https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1038440 i wrote a comparison of old and new s

How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread siso
I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. user@debian:~$ cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr0 -sao debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso cdrskin 1.5.4 : limited cdrecord compatibility wrapper for libburn cdrskin: verbosity level : 1 cdrskin

Secure boot [was: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst]

2023-01-24 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:12:53PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: [...] > >The biggest accomplishment SecureBoot achieved under Windows 8 was > >locking out other operating systems. And that did not last very long. > > Sigh. Secure Boot also does a reasonable job of blocking persistent > pre-boot

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-24 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jeff wrote: >On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 9:51 PM Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> 2) So I turn on Secure Boot? > >I recommend turning SecureBoot off. > > - UEFI > * GPT = on > * SecureBoot = off > >And legacy modes, like BIOS legacy = off. > >In SecureBoot, the only thing that is attested are th

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> My Dell Inspiron E1505 shipped in 2007 with a 32-bit Core Duo > T2250 processor. In 2016, I STFW and saw that certain 64-bit Core 2 Duo > processors sometimes worked in this laptop (depending upon motherboard > hardware revision?). I bought and installed a T7400, and it works! Same here: I upgr

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-23 Thread David Christensen
On 1/23/23 09:40, Stefan Monnier wrote: There is no such thing as an Intel Core* CPU that is 32bit. Actually, the first "Core" branded CPUs ("Core Solo" and "Core Duo") were still 32bit, back in 2006 (that was the time-window during which AMD had already switched to 64bit CPUs and Intel still h

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> There is no such thing as an Intel Core* CPU that is 32bit. Actually, the first "Core" branded CPUs ("Core Solo" and "Core Duo") were still 32bit, back in 2006 (that was the time-window during which AMD had already switched to 64bit CPUs and Intel still hoped it could move people over to IA64 in

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 05:49:30PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > On 1/19/23 19:43, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude > > > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a D

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Felix Miata
Russell L. Harris composed on 2023-01-22 04:15 (UTC): > Inspiron 3542 > Intel Core i5-4210U > ram = DDR3L > No indication of 32-bit or 64-bit. There is no such thing as an Intel Core* CPU that is 32bit. Yours is from 2014, roughly 8 years after Intel quit making 32bit X86 mainline processors:

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/23 18:51, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 05:49:30PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: On 1/19/23 19:43, Russell L. Harris wrote: I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian 11

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 11:06:10PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > In SecureBoot, the only thing that is attested are the disk images. > > There's no guarantees about the program once it is in-memory and > > executing. What's being executed in-memory is the important thing. > > Indeed, it's impor

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
gt;> >On 1/19/23 19:43, Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> >>I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude > >> >>3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > >The Latitude 3510 was released in 2020. I doubt it is a

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 04:15:19AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Actually, I received three old laptops. I got Debian 11 running on > one of them; the BIOS reports: > > Inspiron 3542 > Intel Core i5-4210U > ram = DDR3L > > No indication of 32-bit or 64-bit. All Intel Core i5 processors are

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Russell L. Harris
of a Dell Latitude >>3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian The Latitude 3510 was released in 2020. I doubt it is a 32-bit architecture, like early Pentiums. Actually, I received three old laptops. I got Debian 11 running on one of them; the BIOS reports: Insp

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In SecureBoot, the only thing that is attested are the disk images. > There's no guarantees about the program once it is in-memory and > executing. What's being executed in-memory is the important thing. Indeed, it's important to remember tht SecureBoot's name comes from the fact that it's desig

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > >>11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). > >For newer computers with UEFI firmware and Secure Boot, I use the > >"amd64" architecture version of the Debian Installer -- e.g.: > > > >debian-1

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > > > 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). > > For newer computers with UEFI firmware and Secure Boot, I use the > > "amd64" architecture version of the Debian Installer -- e.g.: > > > >

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 05:49:30PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: On 1/19/23 19:43, Russell L. Harris wrote: I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). For

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/19/23 19:43, Russell L. Harris wrote: I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). RLH On 1/20/23 07:34, Russell L. Harris wrote: > # cp debian-11.

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread tomas
t command did you use? > > > > After downloading the official netinst iso image, I copied it to the > > flash stick (I routinely do netinst of Debian): > > > > # cp debian-11.6.0-i386-netinst.iso /dev/sdb > > # sync > > I believe you should use dd to preserv

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread David
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 at 07:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:35 AM Russell L. Harris > wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 12:28:21PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > # cp debian-11.6.0-i386-netinst.iso /dev/sdb > > # sync > > I believe you should use dd to preserve the ph

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread David
t; On Fri 20 Jan 2023 at 03:43:09 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> > > I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude > >> > > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > >> > > 11) written to USB fla

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:35 AM Russell L. Harris wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 12:28:21PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > [...] > >How did you create the flash device - what command did you use? > > After downloading the official netinst iso image, I copied it

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
ut how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude > > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > > 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). BTW you don't say whether you've ever booted it from any kind of stick. The machine was a gift; this is my fi

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
d out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude > > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > > 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). The problem is that the "one-time menu" does not include the flash device. How did you create the flash de

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread David Wright
t; > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > > > 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). BTW you don't say whether you've ever booted it from any kind of stick. > > Typically you'd tap away at F12 after turning it on, and that

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
> > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > > > 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). > > > > Typically you'd tap away at F12 after turning it on, and that would > > give you a one-time menu for where to boot from. >

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-19 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 10:18:33PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 20 Jan 2023 at 03:43:09 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian 11) written to USB flash

Re: dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Jan 2023 at 03:43:09 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude > 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian > 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). Typically you'd tap away at F12

dell latitude 3510 - bios settings to boot debian netinst

2023-01-19 Thread Russell L. Harris
I have not figured out how to configure the BIOS of a Dell Latitude 3510 to cause it to see and boot from a Debian netinst image (Debian 11) written to USB flash (8Gbyte Patriot). RLH -- He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry ground; a fruitful land into barrenness

Re: full CD installer, non netinst

2021-09-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joseph wrote: > > Question: does  > >     "debian-11.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso"    <  700 MB > > exist? Andrew M.A. Cater and Steve McIntyre wrote: > No [because too fat for a 650 MB CD] It's not the first time that this came up. My best idea for making a smaller ISO with XFCE is in https://

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-16 Thread Brian
rror message is hopefully informative > enough: As I found out when I tried your 'apt install...' command. > $ LANG=C.UTF-8 sudo apt install build-essentials > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > E: Unable to locate package build-essentials > > > > Why Sriram needs to build any xfce packages is beyond me. > > This looks very much like an XY problem (sigh). Sriram wants an Xfce desktop. Dead easy. He installs it using a netinst ISO or after first boot. -- Brian.

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 16 sep 21, 14:04:05, Brian wrote: > On Thu 16 Sep 2021 at 10:48:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Jo, 16 sep 21, 05:06:02, Sriram wrote: > > > Hi Team > > > i have tried to install the minimal iso file yesterday , but Network > > > Manager is not installing, also build-essentials no

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-16 Thread Brian
tials > > > If you get any errors for this please copy-paste the full output as well > as the output of `apt policy`. build-essential, I think (no "s"). Why Sriram needs to build any xfce packages is beyond me. As for network-manager - what has been installed from the netinst ISO and after first boot is unknown. -- Brian.

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:48:02AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 16 sep 21, 05:06:02, Sriram wrote: > > Hi Team > > i have tried to install the minimal iso file yesterday , but Network > > Manager is not installing, also build-essentials not there for building the > > xfce tar files > >

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 16 sep 21, 05:06:02, Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > i have tried to install the minimal iso file yesterday , but Network Manager > is not installing, also build-essentials not there for building the xfce tar > files > i tried to install the Network manager deb file but it required so many > d

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Sriram
://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/pe93oc/new_debian_10_user_wanting_to_update_to_11_fresh/ It seems the bullseye iso's in CD section are all netinst, thats why this confusion ThanksOn Tuesday, 14 September, 2021, 02:57:25 pm IST, Sriram wrote: Hi Thomas Thanks for your reply Sorry i

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 sep 21, 14:58:49, Brian wrote: > > A second issue is if the kernel and its modules in the archive are > updated. The image is tied to the versions of the kernel and modules > that it was built with and will not match what is in the archive. > Breakage again. > > The recommended way to a

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Sep 2021 at 10:22:55 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 18:55:20, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:50:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only >

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 18:55:20, Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:50:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > > > > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only > > > bullseye, upgrading at that point and only then loading what I want

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 13:43:20, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Good to know Andy IF I can get networking to survive the reboot. But my > networking is host file based and usually goes away at reboot until > properly configured again. So I kep a printed copy of all that stuff. > > There is not a functioni

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:50:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only > > bullseye, upgrading at that point and only then loading what I want, > > including GUI and Xfce. > > The mini.iso can b

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 September 2021 13:11:08 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:49:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 September 2021 10:08:34 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > > > > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading t

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:49:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 14 September 2021 10:08:34 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > > > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading the bullseye along > > > with xfce which comes to less than 1 GB or pr

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 September 2021 10:08:34 Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading the bullseye along > > with xfce which comes to less than 1 GB or preferably somewhere > > around 500-800 MB, or suggest ways to install the

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread David Wright
ng the problem with your wifi. Have you downloaded any non-free firmware for it? I'm not aware of their having been any CD ISOs with non-free firmware on them, at least in recent years, but only netinst ISOs. The CD you mention above certainly does not contain any, but only a tiny bit of fre

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading the bullseye along > with xfce which comes to less than 1 GB or preferably somewhere around > 500-800 MB, or suggest ways to install the xfce offline  , there is no > deb file for such GUI's. An

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only > bullseye, upgrading at that point and only then loading what I want, > including GUI and Xfce. The mini.iso can be used to install unstable directly. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 01:56:23PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > If a DVD image is too big to download in and of itself, there are > > tools like jigdo which will allow you to build the media images from > > individual packages > > Jigdo does not support the

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > If a DVD image is too big to download in and of itself, there are > tools like jigdo which will allow you to build the media images from > individual packages Jigdo does not support the composition of new images. The .template file inflates to the size of the ISO im

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 05:50:53AM +, Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > Please include support for xfce in the minimal bullseye netinst iso file. > The existing file dose not include xfce and it is a pain to use the xfce > without GUI > > Earlier editions like buster included x

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Joe
On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 05:50:53 + (UTC) Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > Please include support for xfce in the minimal bullseye netinst iso > file. The existing file dose not include xfce and it is a pain to use > the xfce without GUI > > Earlier editions like buster included x

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
there is no deb file for such > GUI's If you already have a working GNU/Linux system and are very adventurous, then you could try to add the necessary .deb files to the netinst ISO and learn the (hopefully few) shell commands to install them from the booted netinst system. Identifying the necess

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Sriram
.list.gz lists various XFCE related packages. This list describes the ISO image at   https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-11.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso The netinst ISOs are too small to hold the packages of a desktop environment. Looking into debian-10.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 05:50:53, Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > Please include support for xfce in the minimal bullseye netinst iso file. > The existing file dose not include xfce and it is a pain to use the xfce > without GUI > > Earlier editions like buster included xfce in the mi

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
FCE related packages. This list describes the ISO image at https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-11.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso The netinst ISOs are too small to hold the packages of a desktop environment. Looking into debian-10.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso , debian-9.3.0-am

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 7:02 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > El jue, 25 mar 2021 a las 17:31, Kenneth Parker () > escribió: > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 12:09 PM David Wright > wrote: > >> But it appears that I might need to point out that it's very easy and > >> quick to re-collect a failing install

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El jue, 25 mar 2021 a las 17:31, Kenneth Parker () escribió: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 12:09 PM David Wright wrote: >> But it appears that I might need to point out that it's very easy and >> quick to re-collect a failing installation log at any time if the >> "original" ones were lost/overwritten o

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 12:09 PM David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 22:25:42 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:52:31 -0500 David Wright wrote: > > > > > ... [W]e haven't yet been shown any direct evidence of > > > which module drives the 8723, nor of what firmware i

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
2021-03-25 15:01 GMT-04:00, Charles Curley : > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:52:31 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > >> My newly oldest computer, an Acer TravelMate 3201XCi, >> built in 2004, contains one of these. If it's of any use to Charles, >> I can warn that this laptop has the annoying habit of bootin

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
I agree with Mr. Charles Curley and Mr. David Wright. Following those advices will help more the "debugging" process.

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:52:31 -0500 David Wright wrote: > My newly oldest computer, an Acer TravelMate 3201XCi, > built in 2004, contains one of these. If it's of any use to Charles, > I can warn that this laptop has the annoying habit of booting up > with the wifi blocked. (It has a pair of insan

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 22:25:42 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:52:31 -0500 David Wright wrote: > > > ... [W]e haven't yet been shown any direct evidence of > > which module drives the 8723, nor of what firmware it uses. > > (These can easily be determined from dmesg when th

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:52:31 -0500 David Wright wrote: > ... [W]e haven't yet been shown any direct evidence of > which module drives the 8723, nor of what firmware it uses. > (These can easily be determined from dmesg when the installed > system is running.) Also, more detail from /var/log/sysl

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 17:58:58 (-0400), Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > I saw the bug report. Mr. Charles Curley provided relevant information > about the installation process stored on log files. Perhaps it would be good > to follow Mr. David Wright's advice, you could help with bug-fixing proce

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-24 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
Hi. I saw the bug report. Mr. Charles Curley provided relevant information about the installation process stored on log files. Perhaps it would be good to follow Mr. David Wright's advice, you could help with bug-fixing process sending some installation log information to narrow what the develop

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-23 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 6:03 AM Brian wrote: > On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 20:26:47 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > I think my best, followup is to state "how to recreate the problem" > > Indeed. I should not have offered the advice in that manner > and tone. Aplologies. > Absolutely accepted. No pr

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-23 Thread Brian
On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 20:26:47 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > I think my best, followup is to state "how to recreate the problem" Indeed. I should not have offered the advice in that manner and tone. Aplologies. -- Brian.

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
Thanks. I submitted "how to Recreate". Text file of submission is in another reply. Kenneth Parker On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 9:11 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 08:26:47PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I think my best, followup is to state "how to recreate the problem". > >

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
I submitted the following Text to Bug 985755. Text File has How to Recreate the Problem. Kenneth Parker 1. Have Laptop, with the following WiFi Hardware (as per lspci Command): > Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723DE 802.11b/g/n PCIe Adapter 2. Use Netinst CD

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 08:26:47PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > I think my best, followup is to state "how to recreate the problem". > > The Bug Report looks like a "temporary email list". Is that true? Can I > "submit updates"? Yes, you can reply to the bug to add information to the bug repor

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:51:18 + Brian wrote: > > I'm not so sure that's a tangent, as d-i appears to use > > wpasupplicant to set up connections. > > How can it set up a connection if there isn't an interface to connect > to? Because I'm not sure that's what's happening. What I see (using

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 6:58 PM Brian wrote: > On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 18:12:08 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 3:54 PM Charles Curley < > > charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:52:26 -0400 > > > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > > > > > ...I'

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 6:52 PM Charles Curley < charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:44:12 -0400 > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > My issue now, is that the results of netinst doesn't have all the > > pieces, needed for WiFi. For exa

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Brian
On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 18:12:08 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 3:54 PM Charles Curley < > charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:52:26 -0400 > > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > > > ...I'd suggest you file a bug > > > > against debian-installer, pr

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:44:12 -0400 Kenneth Parker wrote: > My issue now, is that the results of netinst doesn't have all the > pieces, needed for WiFi. For example, I can't find wpasupplicant. *You* can't find wpasupplicant, or the debian installer (d-i) can't f

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