Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-21 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-07-21 08:23, Anders Andersson wrote: It's bad enough with everyone's signature and people who quote them when replying. Your name is already in the header. It used to be possible to add custom headers to email messages but I've forgotten how to do it. mick

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-21 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 20/7/25 17:37, Thomas Southerland wrote: > > > > On 7/20/25 5:21 AM, Mathew Alexander wrote: > >> Mathew Alexander > >> mat...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> WebRep > >> Overall rating > >> > >> WebRep > >> Overall rating > >> > > > > To uns

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 11:09 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:39:32PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Maybe the List-Unsubscribe header would help, > > . The list software can > > add it without worrying about breaking DKIM signat

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:39:32PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Maybe the List-Unsubscribe header would help, > . The list software can > add it without worrying about breaking DKIM signatures. > > A good user agent would display a UI widget to

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ons is that altering the content > of the message (which would also include any tags added to the subject > line) would invalidate any DKIM signature present and make it harder for > the message to be delivered. > > Most mailing lists that change the content by adding subject tags an

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Lee
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 4:13 PM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 21/7/25 03:06, Lee wrote: > > > > > It's in the mail headers - which the 'please unsubscribe me' people > > don't know exists, > > "There are more things, in heaven and earth, than man has ever dreamed > of"... > > :) > > Not only the " 'pl

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/7/25 03:06, Lee wrote: It's in the mail headers - which the 'please unsubscribe me' people don't know exists, "There are more things, in heaven and earth, than man has ever dreamed of"... :) Not only the " 'please unsubscribe me' people " did not know that exists... "The more we

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Lee
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 5:53 AM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 20/7/25 17:37, Thomas Southerland wrote: > > > > On 7/20/25 5:21 AM, Mathew Alexander wrote: > >> Mathew Alexander > >> mat...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> WebRep > >> Overall rating > >> > >> WebRep > >> Overall rating > >> > > > > To unsub

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 20 Jul 12:08 -0500, Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > > Sorry, I meant digital signatures. Mailing list messing with the body > > means that the signature is no longer valid. > > Strange, I have in my archives mails from that mailing-list that are > digitally signed

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > Sorry, I meant digital signatures. Mailing list messing with the body > means that the signature is no longer valid. Strange, I have in my archives mails from that mailing-list that are digitally signed, where a footer with unsubscribe instructions was added, and mu

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 20, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > > And it'd break signatures for those of us who use them. I *hated* yahoo > > groups (and, now, groups.io) for doing that. > > Can you explain what it means? I am subscribed to > a

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > And it'd break signatures for those of us who use them. I *hated* yahoo > groups (and, now, groups.io) for doing that. Can you explain what it means? I am subscribed to and I do not observe anything that looks like breaki

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 20, 2025, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:48:01PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Perhaps, the List Administrators could find worthwhile, to add a footer to > > the mailing list messages, something like > > > > "To unsubscribe, change your subscription mode, or view the

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Andy Smith
line) would invalidate any DKIM signature present and make it harder for the message to be delivered. Most mailing lists that change the content by adding subject tags and/or footers also rewrite the From address to be from the list itself, e.g. in that configuration this list would have: From: B

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/7/25 17:37, Thomas Southerland wrote: On 7/20/25 5:21 AM, Mathew Alexander wrote: Mathew Alexander mat...@gmail.com WebRep Overall rating WebRep Overall rating To unsubscribe from this list, send "unsubscribe" in the message subject to: -requ...@lists.debian.org and you will

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Thomas Southerland
On 7/20/25 5:21 AM, Mathew Alexander wrote: Mathew Alexander mat...@gmail.com WebRep Overall rating WebRep Overall rating To unsubscribe from this list, send "unsubscribe" in the message subject to: -requ...@lists.debian.org and you will be removed after your confirmation reply h

please delete me from your mailing lists

2025-07-20 Thread Mathew Alexander
Mathew Alexander mat...@gmail.com WebRep Overall rating WebRep Overall rating

Deleting/removing content from Debian mailing lists [WAS Re: Mailing list conduct and long threads]

2025-01-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 02:02:45PM +0800, hlyg wrote: > is it possible for moderator to remove posts that go astray too far when > archiving? > Hi hlyg, The Debian lists don't work quite that way. It's quite hard to establish that there's nothing useful even in the longest threads. Also, Debian a

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Gareth Evans
gt; Thanks,. > Andy > > ¹ Even receiving sites that process DMARC sometimes don't carry out > the DMARC author's wishes. As a common example that most of us > will have seen, Mailman mailing lists will often just selectively > rewrite the headers. Yes. Thanks very much. G > > -- > https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Andy Smith
at it wishes¹ for your email to be quarantined by the recipient. Thanks,. Andy ¹ Even receiving sites that process DMARC sometimes don't carry out the DMARC author's wishes. As a common example that most of us will have seen, Mailman mailing lists will often just selectively rewrite the headers. -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Gareth Evans
On Fri 01/03/2024 at 11:00, Gareth Evans wrote: > This idea seems to relate more to SPF than anything? Or DKIM, indeed, as you say Andy, at least one of which is the authentication component. Documentation could be clearer. Thanks G

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Gareth Evans
On Fri 01/03/2024 at 09:18, Andy Smith wrote: > Just for the record, the Authentication part of DMARC is done with > SPF and/or DKIM; the large mailbox providers actually (since 1 Feb) > require *either* SPF *or* DKIM passes, or both if you are a bulk > sender (thousands of mails per day). > > DM

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 01:42:07AM +, Gareth Evans wrote: > I have somehow only just discovered that Gmail, Apple and Yahoo > are introducing, or have recently introduced, DMARC requirements > for senders. Just for the record, the Authentication part of DMARC is done with SPF and/or DKIM;

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 08:19:42AM +, Michael Grant wrote: > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > > And the main page > https://www.mailop.org/ Thanks abig bunch! -- tomás signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Michael Grant
ducing, or have recently introduced, DMARC requirements for senders. >> >> See for exmaple >> https://www.proofpoint.com/us/blog/email-and-cloud-threats/google-and-yahoo-set-new-email-authentication-requirements >> >> Can anyone recommend good mailing lists or other

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread Marco Moock
Am 01.03.2024 schrieb "Gareth Evans" : > I am subscribed to mailop (though don't read it as often as I > should!) but from a mail search there doesn't seem to have been > anything there about this recently. That topic has been discussed there, you can find those discussions in the archive (you ne

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-02-29 Thread tomas
-threats/google-and-yahoo-set-new-email-authentication-requirements > > Can anyone recommend good mailing lists or other resources for people who > look after email servers/services? It takes up little of my work, but an > area of interest. Me too :) ISTR that there was a ment

{OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-02-29 Thread Gareth Evans
recommend good mailing lists or other resources for people who look after email servers/services? It takes up little of my work, but an area of interest. I half expected to be able to find mailing lists for postmasters run by the big email service providers, but ddg was bare. Gmail's blog looks

Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing lists [No updates Dec 2022]

2023-01-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing lists that are language-specific, for

Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing lists [No updates November 2022]

2022-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing lists that are language-specific, for

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 March 2021 23:25:53 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 12 Mar 2021 at 22:50:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 12 March 2021 21:18:16 David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 12 Mar 2021 at 18:36:09 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Friday 12 March 2021 17:13:40 David Wright wrot

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-13 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Mar 2021 at 22:50:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 12 March 2021 21:18:16 David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 12 Mar 2021 at 18:36:09 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 12 March 2021 17:13:40 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 15:00:06 (-0700), Charles Curle

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 12 March 2021 21:18:16 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 12 Mar 2021 at 18:36:09 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 12 March 2021 17:13:40 David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 15:00:06 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:49:51 -0400 Cmdte Alpha Tig

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Mar 2021 at 18:36:09 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 12 March 2021 17:13:40 David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 15:00:06 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:49:51 -0400 Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > > > Does it work if I rather put this signatur

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 12 March 2021 17:13:40 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 15:00:06 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:49:51 -0400 Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > > Does it work if I rather put this signature at the end of every > > > message? > > > > > > Time zone: GMT-4 >

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 15:00:06 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:49:51 -0400 Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > > Does it work if I rather put this signature at the end of every > > message? > > > Time zone: GMT-4 > > Months: Ene = Jan ; Abr = Apr ; Ago = Aug ; Dic = Dec > > Ac

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/11/21, Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 13:25 -0400, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: >> 11 mar 2021 10:40, wrote:[1] >> > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If >> > I want to >> > find the original email which might have more context, that is very >> > helpful. >>

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 05:00:06 PM Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:49:51 -0400 > > Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Does it work if I rather put this signature at the end of every > > message? > > > > > > Time zone: GMT-4 > > Months: Ene = Jan ; Abr = Apr ; Ago = Aug ; Dic = D

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:49:51 -0400 Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > Does it work if I rather put this signature at the end of every > message? > > Time zone: GMT-4 > Months: Ene = Jan ; Abr = Apr ; Ago = Aug ; Dic = Dec Actually, the time zone is redundant, as it is indicated in the time/date stam

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Charles Curley
On 21 Ventôse an 229 de la Révolution 12:32:01 -0600 David Wright wrote: > One small point: timezones are a great help in making the time > relevant. I agree on language, no bother. Hey, we've even had one > person using the French Revolutionary Calendar. Anyone have any problems with the Mayan

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 12:30:43 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-03-11 at 12:10, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 11 2021 at 10:40, wrote: > > > >> I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If > >> I want to find the original email which might have more con

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 15:12, escribió: > Yes, especially the Time zone. The months I can probably figure out. El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 15:24, David Wright () escribió: > No need for the months. People rarely post replies to such old messages. > As for inserting it manually, the disadvantage

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 14:49:51 (-0400), Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 14:30, escribió: > > I can live with that ;-) > > El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 14:30, escribió: > > Yes that works for me, but I can live with the Spanish, as well. > > El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 14:32 (G

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 01:49:51 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > Does it work if I rather put this signature at the end of every message? -- Time zone: GMT-4 Months: Ene = Jan ; Abr = Apr ; Ago = Aug ; Dic = Dec Yes, especially the Time zone. The months I can probably figure out.

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 14:30, escribió: > I can live with that ;-) El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 14:30, escribió: > Yes that works for me, but I can live with the Spanish, as well. Thanks El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 14:32 (GMT-4), David Wright () escribió:[1] > One small point: timezones are a gr

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 17:42:48 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 13:25 -0400, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > 11 mar 2021 10:40, wrote:[1] > > > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If > > > I want to > > > find the original email which might have more context

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 12:25:08 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > 11 mar 2021 10:40, wrote:[1] > > > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If I > > want to find the original email which might have more context, that is > > very helpful. > > Let me see. Does this [1

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 12:10:30 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11 2021 at 10:40, wrote: > > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If I > > want to find the original email which might have more context, that is > > very helpful. > > I could try but it i

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El jue, 11 mar 2021 a las 13:31, The Wanderer () escribió: > For myself, that wouldn't bother me at all. I've seen attribution lines > in less-recognizable languages, and since all the key information is > still there and can be parsed with reasonably minimal effort, it serves > the purpose just fi

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 13:25 -0400, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > 11 mar 2021 10:40, wrote:[1] > > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If > > I want to > > find the original email which might have more context, that is very > > helpful. > > Let me see. Does this [1] wo

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-03-11 at 12:10, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11 2021 at 10:40, wrote: > >> I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If >> I want to find the original email which might have more context, >> that is very helpful. > > I could try but it is more problema

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
11 mar 2021 10:40, wrote:[1] > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If I want to > find the original email which might have more context, that is very helpful. Let me see. Does this [1] work for you?

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
On Thu, Mar 11 2021 at 10:40, wrote: > I would suggest that you leave the date and hour, also, please. If I want to > find the original email which might have more context, that is very helpful. I could try but it is more problematic for quick answers since I have the interface in Spanish, unles

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 07:30:02 AM Brian wrote: > On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 07:59:27 -0400, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Brian () wrote: > > > Please would you not remove the attribution when you quote a mail? > > > > Sure. Like this? Or should I leave the date and hour too? > > Thanks; much

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 07:59:27 -0400, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > Brian () wrote: > > Please would you not remove the attribution when you quote a mail? > > Sure. Like this? Or should I leave the date and hour too? Thanks; much better. Personally, I would add the date and hour, but that could

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
Brian () wrote: > Please would you not remove the attribution when you quote a mail? Sure. Like this? Or should I leave the date and hour too?

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 07:11:52 -0400, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Hint: you are already doing that, Gmail just hides the quotes for you. > > I do not always let the whole quote there, > as in this message, for example. I did it > at the start of the thread only to give some context. > > Than

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-11 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Hint: you are already doing that, Gmail just hides the quotes for you. I do not always let the whole quote there, as in this message, for example. I did it at the start of the thread only to give some context. Thanks for the hint, though. Gmail does hide the quotes, no matter how long they ar

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 21:34:27, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Also, I saw that "reply to all" quotes the whole thread. > I would not like to bloat the messages with such big quotes. Hint: you are already doing that, Gmail just hides the quotes for you. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.or

Re: Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-10 Thread David
n alternative method to get the same outcome :) > Also, I saw that "reply to all" quotes the whole thread. > I would not like to bloat the messages with such big quotes. Agreed. The polite etiquette on this and many other mailing lists is that you are expected to edit the big quote down

Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
in Gmail. They > are a broken simplification of threads that only compare the Subject > text and apparently ignore the actual threading of the message. > > On Debian mailing lists, always use the Gmail compose window to > begin a new *thread*, and use Gmail "reply-to-all" t

Using Gmail on Debian mailing lists [was Re: Plasma can be a lightweight]

2021-03-10 Thread David
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 10:04, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-10 14:59 (UTC-0400): > > > I'm new to mailing lists. I didn't now you could link threads (it is > > > threads, right?). > > I really have no idea what t

Four new mailing lists of possible interest

2019-02-07 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Use the email addresses/URLs to subscribe, if you wish. mint-users Discussion of the Mint Linux distribution mint-users-requ...@firemountain.net http://www.firemountain.net/mailman/listinfo/mint-users (independent, not affiliated with the Mint L

GIMP mailing lists - was: Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha

2016-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 23 July 2016 10:01:37 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 23 July 2016 02:36:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Very frustrating that > > apparently no one on this list is enough smarter about this that they > > can assist me. > > Is there a GIMP list, and have you tried it?? To answer my own que

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-21 Thread Joel Rees
One comment to the thread subject, rather than to any particular post. We would do well to remember that trying to participate in a mailing list or a newsgroup with an MUA is an inherent contradiction in purpose. Put another way, ordinary e-mail and postings to newsgroups and mailing lists are

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:37:40PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > > I owe you a $BEVERAGE of your choice (whithin reasonable bounds ;-) -- so > > if you run into me in one of the usual conferences, go ahead! > > Thank you! I accept. Fortunately

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 16:35:03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > > be changed. I'm just advocating

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with th

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 09:44:56 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:57:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > > CoC (especially this

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:57:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. As in a a

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. Hallelujah! Thank

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:41:38PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 21:17:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > You have to refine your filters a bit, but it's definitely possible. > > I know it is, but not with a simple three or fo

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 08:28:16 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:47:02 +1300 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > tomas said: > > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > > about *not* bein

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 07:47:53 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > tomas said: > > > > Yes, you are right abou

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Joe
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:47:02 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > tomas said: > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > about *not* being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do > > > his/he

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 20:21:49 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:10:56PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > tomas said: > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about > > > *not* > > > bein

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > tomas said: > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about > > *not* > > being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do his/her part and express > > this wish with the headers in use for this pur

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 21:17:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 07:55:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > > > I'd also like the copy to t

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:10:56PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] >

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 07:55:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list f

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be > > > discarded. > > > > The ultimate feature is

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be > > discarded. > > The ultimate feature is just a duplicate filter (a couple of lines of > procm

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 16:04:47 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > With a sensible mail reader, the responder just > > has to choose "respond to list" and all is well. > > Yes. That is not th

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 16:04:47 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > With a sensible mail reader, the responder just > has to choose "respond to list" and all is well. Yes. That is not the problem. The problem is responders who *deliberately* don't respond to list. You claim to know how to set one's

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 01:07:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: [Mail-Followup-T] > True. The only problem is - this very e-mail I'm replying to does not > contain Mail-Followup-To nor Followup-To :) Without a doubt it must be > related to your mutt or postfix

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:27:21 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:54:27PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > We are seriously off-topic by now. I'd propose to take this off-list. > It has been hashed out to death numerous time

Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:54:27PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] We are seriously off-topic by now. I'd propose to take this off-list. It has been hashed out to death numerous times and the result has always been well, duh, opinions differ. > You mean *t

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 oct 14, 15:07:31, softwatt wrote: > On 10/11/2014 01:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > If you want to go forward with this I would suggest you just do it. If > > some Debian Developer finds your idea interesting you could even get a > > domain like imap.debian.net. > > Yes, I think that

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-11 Thread softwatt
On 10/11/2014 01:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > If you want to go forward with this I would suggest you just do it. If > some Debian Developer finds your idea interesting you could even get a > domain like imap.debian.net. Yes, I think that's the way to go. People are far more likely to adopt a

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 oct 14, 23:16:33, softwatt wrote: > > Instead of a mailing list, let there be an IMAP/POP account, let us call > it i...@debian.org. However, it isn't a normal IMAP account: > > - It is public, and not a traditional private imap account. > - It accepts all logins, regardless of the pa

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:56 -0500, softwatt wrote: > On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: > >> > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. > > It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the > > list archive. Might be

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: >> > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. > It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the > list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. Mutt seems smarter than the nor

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
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Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:10 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: >>> On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read thi

debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. B

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum (attn. Jerry)

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the n

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum (attn. Jerry)

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don't know where to begin

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