Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hi,
>
> backup2l is simple and has been reliable for me for years.
>
> Cheers,
> Jerome
interesting, at first glance it might help me out, but
i don't know for sure. i'm a bit worried though that the
debian package doesn't look like it is actively maintained.
i have ol
On 3/14/25 2:25 AM, Chris Green wrote:
Nicolas George wrote:
tim wade (HE12025-03-14):
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
Ahem. rsync is not a backup tool.
rsync can be *part of* a backup tool, for example in rsnapshot, or
manually with filesystem sna
Hi Again,
On 22/03/2025 15:14, songbird wrote:
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
ultimately i really need a way to do backups that will
deduplicate
I do not see what you mean.
my old backups are not incremental so they will contain a
lot of files that would be identical copi
Ho,
On 22/03/2025 21:54, songbird wrote:
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
...
Not compressing the tarballs is possible.
i don't think it is really deduplicating but that is ok
for now. what i've been playing with this afternoon seems
to be going ok.
i'm not sure i have a daily run that is working
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
...
> Not compressing the tarballs is possible.
i don't think it is really deduplicating but that is ok
for now. what i've been playing with this afternoon seems
to be going ok.
i'm not sure i have a daily run that is working since i
don't always leave my machine on, but
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>>ultimately i really need a way to do backups that will
>> deduplicate
>
> I do not see what you mean.
my old backups are not incremental so they will contain a
lot of files that would be identical copies to other backups.
>> and must be 100% bul
Hi,
On 22/03/2025 13:50, songbird wrote:
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hi,
backup2l is simple and has been reliable for me for years.
Cheers,
Jerome
interesting, at first glance it might help me out, but
i don't know for sure. i'm a bit worried though that the
debian package doesn't look like it
Tim Woodall wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:07:53PM +0800, tim wade wrote:
>>> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
>>> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>>
>> I use git. I keep terminal open running a ssh connection open to th
Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
...
> Git is an awesome tool that can be utilized with a wide variety of
> files, not just software source code or text. However, it faces
> scalability challenges with larger files, such as videos. While
> extensions like git-annex can assist in managing these larger files,
>
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 07:50:27PM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
>> git fails to preserve ownership, permissions or timestamps. While this may
> [...]
>
> Half-wrong. Git doesn't preserve ownerships, but it does preserve
> permissions (the POSIX things).
Still quarter(?)-wro
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 07:51:24AM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > Git *does* preserve permissions [1]. For the ownerships (and more accurate
> > mtime, atime and ctime) cf. etckeeper.
> >
> Git only tracks the execute bit. And because it always writ
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Git *does* preserve permissions [1]. For the ownerships (and more accurate
mtime, atime and ctime) cf. etckeeper.
Git only tracks the execute bit. And because it always writes a new file
rather than truncate then write by most editors, the permissio
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 08:36:48PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 01:18:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> > On 3/15/25 12:50, Tim Woodall wrote:
> > > git fails to preserve ownership, permissions or timestamps. While this
> > > may not be relevant to your usecase,
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 07:50:27PM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:07:53PM +0800, tim wade wrote:
> > > I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> > > It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
> >
> > I use git. I kee
I use rdiff-backup. It does incremental backups.
On March 14, 2025 1:07:53 AM CDT, tim wade wrote:
>Hello
>
>I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
>It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
>besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
>
>Thank you.
>
On 3/15/25 13:36, Andy Smith wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 01:18:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
I am curious -- if I make my /etc directory tree into a version control
system working directory (Git or otherwise), please explain how this would
be catastrophic.
/etc has things in it which
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 01:18:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> On 3/15/25 12:50, Tim Woodall wrote:
> > git fails to preserve ownership, permissions or timestamps. While this
> > may not be relevant to your usecase, for example backing up /etc would
> > be catastrophic (which is why we h
On 3/15/25 12:50, Tim Woodall wrote:
git fails to preserve ownership, permissions or timestamps. While this
may not be relevant to your usecase, for example backing up /etc would
be catastrophic (which is why we have etckeeper)
I am curious -- if I make my /etc directory tree into a version c
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:07:53PM +0800, tim wade wrote:
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
I use git. I keep terminal open running a ssh connection open to the
backup system. Whenever I wish
>> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
> I use borg. It stores files in its own archive format with
> deduplication and compression. 4 backups of 32G /+/home of my old
> netbook created every month stored in ~11GB backup directory.
> Slower than rsync, eat
On 2025-03-14, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 14/03/2025 14:39, Greg wrote:
>> On 2025-03-14, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> backup2l is simple and has been reliable for me for years.
>>
>> Is that a Debian package?
>
> Yep, here is its tracker page:
I was looking for *backup21* rat
On Fri Mar 14, 2025 at 9:14 PM GMT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I use Bup, which provides a fairly similar featureset to Borg (tho
doesn't support encryption yet). AFAIK the main difference is that
instead of its own archive format, Bup uses the Git repository format.
Can bup purge old backups?
--
Hi,
backup2l is simple and has been reliable for me for years.
Cheers,
Jerome
On 14/03/2025 07:07, tim wade wrote:
Hello
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
Thank y
"Russell L. Harris" writes:
> = With git, I can do a hundred backups in a morning or afternoon
> session without worry about consumption of disk space. I am not
> concerned with an orderly and uncluttered commit record; my concern is
> the ability to recover.
Git is an awesome tool that can be
On 15/3/25 17:22, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
Moreover, storing Git repositories on the same storage device as your
original files only safeguards your data against your own mistakes. This
is analogous to the (opposite) misconception that RAID systems serve as
a backup solution; they only protect aga
On 3/13/25 23:07, tim wade wrote:
Hello
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
Thank you.
"Incremental backup" implies "full backup" -- e.g. make full backups on
Sund
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 07:53:09PM -0400, Default User wrote:
On 2025-03-14 [FR], Russell Harris wrote:
I use git. I keep terminal open running a ssh connection open to the
backup system. Whenever I wish to save the state of the system, I
switch to the terminal and execute git commit. To chec
On 2025-03-14 [FR], Russell Harris wrote:
I use git. I keep terminal open running a ssh connection open to the
backup system. Whenever I wish to save the state of the system, I
switch to the terminal and execute git commit. To check the previous
state of a file, Emacs provides git-timemachine.
tim wade wrote:
> Hello
>
> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> backup?
>
Most of the replies so far seem to have ignored 'increment[al]'. While
complete backups are s
Hello,
On 14/03/2025 14:39, Greg wrote:
On 2025-03-14, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hi,
backup2l is simple and has been reliable for me for years.
Is that a Debian package?
Yep, here is its tracker page:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/backup2l
Cheers,
Jerome
> Yes, it has `bup prune-older`.
> I must admit I don't use it, but I'd expect it to be fairly
> costly/slow.
The thing I do use and like very much is `bup get` which transfers
backups between two repositories. I use it for off-site backups, and
compared to my previous Rsync based backups (where
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:07:53PM +0800, tim wade wrote:
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
I use git. I keep terminal open running a ssh connection open to the
backup system. Whenever I wish to save the state of the system, I
switch to the
Stefan Monnier writes:
> I haven't actually tried Borg, but I'm surprised by "slower than rsync,
> eat more cpu" because I'd expect it to perform similarly to Bup, and
> (for my use case at least) Bup performs incremental backups
> significantly faster and using less CPU (especially on the server
Jonathan Dowland [2025-03-14 22:03:21] wrote:
> On Fri Mar 14, 2025 at 9:14 PM GMT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> I use Bup, which provides a fairly similar featureset to Borg (tho
>> doesn't support encryption yet). AFAIK the main difference is that
>> instead of its own archive format, Bup uses the G
David Christensen (HE12025-03-14):
> "Incremental backup" implies "full backup" -- e.g. make full backups on
> Sunday nights and make incremental backups Monday through Saturday nights,
> etc..
Or a full backup in 2025 and the next one in 3025, which is functionally
equivalent to no full backup af
> A tool that cannot be automated is not a backup tool.
>
> Corollary: a GUI-only tool is not a backup tool.
>
> Regards,
You are making it too easy for you. A tool, than can be configured with a GUI
can of course run automated. Ask Microsoft or Apple!
But there are also tools, which are only
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 14:07:53 +0800
tim wade wrote:
> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> backup?
I use and recommend amanda and rsnapshot, both already mentioned. If y
gene heskett wrote:
>
> That sounds most interesting Chris. Something that can work as you work
> w/o interfering with your work.
>
Exactly! For example one can sometimes get in a real mess editing a
file and you want to get back to where you were an hour, or a few
hours ago. Look in the hourl
On 2025-03-14, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hi,
>
> backup2l is simple and has been reliable for me for years.
Is that a Debian package?
Hans (HE12025-03-14):
> Depends on, what you prefer: in console, or with GUIn as conjob or whatever
A tool that cannot be automated is not a backup tool.
Corollary: a GUI-only tool is not a backup tool.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
Chris Green writes:
> tim wade wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
>> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>>
>> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
>> backup?
>>
> Most of the replies so far seem to have ignored 'increment[
On 3/14/25 05:40, Chris Green wrote:
tim wade wrote:
Hello
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
backup?
Most of the replies so far seem to have ignored 'increment[al]'. Wh
Depends on, what you prefer: in console, or with GUIn as conjob or whatever
There is "borgbackup2" in my mind, as well as "backintime-qt" (for wide ways
of settings), and for the easiest way, I suggest "deja-dup".
Hans
Harri Suutari wrote:
> On 14/03/2025 08.07, tim wade wrote:
> >
> > besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> > backup?
>
> Dirvish - "Disk based virtual image network backup system."
>
> Dirvish can create user browseable (daily) backup directories.
I use di
On 14/03/2025 08.07, tim wade wrote:
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
backup?
Dirvish - "Disk based virtual image network backup system."
Dirvish can create user browseable (daily) backup directories.
Duplicity - "Encrypted incremental backup to local
Nicolas George wrote:
> tim wade (HE12025-03-14):
> > besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
>
> Ahem. rsync is not a backup tool.
>
> rsync can be *part of* a backup tool, for example in rsnapshot, or
> manually with filesystem snapshots, but rsync alone doe
"Gareth Evans" writes:
> It's not truly "incremental", though combines compression,
> deduplication and optional encryption, which may improve on that.
Not "incremental" in the traditional tape-backup sense, which requires
periodic full backups. A closer term might be "incremental forever"
(like
Hi Tim,
tim wade writes:
> Hello
>
> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> backup?
>
> Thank you.
I have a Raspberry Pi running Nextcloud and so have my important data
bo
tim wade (HE12025-03-14):
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment backup?
Ahem. rsync is not a backup tool.
rsync can be *part of* a backup tool, for example in rsnapshot, or
manually with filesystem snapshots, but rsync alone does not allow you
to recover a file you
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 2:08?AM tim wade wrote:
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
backup?
I use Duplicity to backup a webserve
Hi Tim,
Borg is perhaps worth a mention.
https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
It's not truly "incremental", though combines compression, deduplication and
optional encryption, which may improve on that.
$ sudo borg info @.rsync.net:home::d14
Archive name: d14
...
Time (start): Fri, 20
пт, 14 мар. 2025 г. в 11:08, tim wade :
> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> backup?
I use borg. It stores files in its own archive format with
deduplication and compres
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 2:08 AM tim wade wrote:
> Hello
>
> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> backup?
>
chiark-backup and amanda both work well. Chiark is good for a s
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 2:08 AM tim wade wrote:
>
> I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
> It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
>
> besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
> backup?
I use Duplicity to backup a webserver and MySQL database. The
directories
Hello
I plan to make increment backup for my home dir.
It's currently in the size of 1xx GB.
besides rsync, do you know any other software/service for increment
backup?
Thank you.
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