Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-02-01 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:12:47 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:16:03 -0500 (EST), Klistvud wrote: > > In all honesty, is there anybody over the mental age of 9 that actually > > "enjoys" flash??? > > I hate it too. But as with most things in life, it all comes down to >

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:16:03 -0500 (EST), Klistvud wrote: > In all honesty, is there anybody over the mental age of 9 that actually > "enjoys" flash??? I hate it too. But as with most things in life, it all comes down to money. The bottom line is, "it sells". Or at least the Madison Avenue typ

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-02-01 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 31. 01. 2010 22:15:05 je Eduardo M KALINOWSKI napisal(a): But 99% of them are unnecessary, the same effect could be achived with plain old HTML. The end result might be more boring, but just as informational/useful. Moreover, I've seldom encountered plain old HTML that was as boring

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:35, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Why is the default JRE not installed in a normal install of Debian? Don't know, and you're highjacking a thread about flash. +1 on the "flash is not necessary but webdevs seem to rely on it too much" trend. Functional content (like login sc

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The answer to my last question seems to be `NO', which confirms my thoughts: at http://wiki.debian.org/Java, it is clearly said: == To install the default JRE on your system, run : apt-get install default-jre == Why is the default JRE not installed

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar writes: >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. > It's easy enough to download YouTube v

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI < edua...@kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for >> validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to >> call external (x)

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote: Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action script) to be properly managed and displayed so you

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:10:28 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón > > wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact > >> that for todays br

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > > ... > >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW pr

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: ... > One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact > that for todays browsing is a "must have". Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. It's easy enough to download YouTube video usi

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:26:31 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/ >> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other >> sources. > Clearly, but it does not make things clearer! There are so

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:55:40 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> 5. Debian's politic sometimes creates problems which could be solved in >> a really more straightforward way: if it had been in the deps from the >> beginning, I would

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:05:01 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sun January 31 2010, Camaleón wrote: >> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/ >> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other >> sources. > > what about flashplayer-mozilla ? Yo

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun January 31 2010, Camaleón wrote: > It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/ > shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other > sources. what about flashplayer-mozilla ? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu Us

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:55:40 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: > 5. Debian's politic sometimes creates problems which could be solved in > a really more straightforward way: if it had been in the deps from the > beginning, I would not have had to do all of this. Okay, this is `too > recent' stuff, but

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Merciadri Luca writes: > "Edward J. Shornock" writes: > >> On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: >>> Nuno Magalhães writes: >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Play

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Merciadri Luca < luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > "Edward J. Shornock" writes: > > > On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Nuno Magalhães writes: > >> > >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Mer

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Edward J. Shornock" writes: > On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> Nuno Magalhães writes: >> >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca >>> wrote: I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two computers

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-31 Thread Edward J. Shornock
On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote: Nuno Magalhães writes: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried with the up-to-date Firefox. I have thi

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-30 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Magalhães writes: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca > wrote: >> I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two >> computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried >> with the up-to-date Firefox.

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-30 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca wrote: > I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two > computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried > with the up-to-date Firefox. I have this one: ii flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8 running Sid on amd64. Try with

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-30 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Magalhães writes: > Comparing which flash-related packages (and their versions) you have > on each machine? Testing other flash-encripled sites? I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two computers. They are executing Icewea

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-29 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 20:31, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Any idea for this situation? Comparing which flash-related packages (and their versions) you have on each machine? Testing other flash-encripled sites? -- () ascii-rubanda kampajno - kontraŭ html-a retpoŝto /\ ascii ribbon campaign - aga

Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

2010-01-29 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello folks, On another computer of mine, with Debian Lenny, same kernel (2.6.26-2-686-bigmem), I am able to play Youtube videos and other flash stuff, correctly. If there ``too much'' Youtube tabs under FF (or Iceweasel), it becomes really slow, does

Re: firefox and iceweasel

2007-04-08 Thread Dusty Wilson
On 4/8/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's important to know that so far, everything that's been pointed out as working in Firefox but not in Iceweasel boils down to exceptionally poor web design and not any sort of failing on Iceweasel's part. This seems quite true. One of the si

Re: firefox and iceweasel

2007-04-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Pobega wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:12:34AM +0200, Eeltje wrote: >> >> Question of copyright. You lose nothing using Iceweasel. >> > > That's subject to disagreement. Lately on the Debian forums there have > been a l

Re: question about firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread KS
Joe Hart wrote: > Zbigniew Wiech wrote: >> What is the reason to split Firefox and Iceweasel ? Technical >> differences or something with copyright ? > >> What do I lose using "genuine" firefox from Mozilla ? > >> regards >> zb > > A bit of

Re: firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
bian forums there have > been a lot of problems arising from using Iceweasel over Firefox, > although it's nothing very serious. > > >From what I remember it has to do with Iceweasel showing up as a > user-agent and Firefox plugins not working the same. > > But for the

Re: firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Ron Johnson
, the User Agent Switcher fixes that quite neatly. > But for the most part, Firefox and Iceweasel are identical. > > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

Re: firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Michael Pobega
othing very serious. >From what I remember it has to do with Iceweasel showing up as a user-agent and Firefox plugins not working the same. But for the most part, Firefox and Iceweasel are identical. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Eeltje
Question of copyright. You lose nothing using Iceweasel. -- Eeltje de Vries -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: question about firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zbigniew Wiech wrote: > > What is the reason to split Firefox and Iceweasel ? Technical > differences or something with copyright ? > > What do I lose using "genuine" firefox from Mozilla ? > > regards > zb A bit

Re: question about firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zbigniew Wiech wrote: > > What is the reason to split Firefox and Iceweasel ? Technical > differences or something with copyright ? > Copyright issues. Mainly because the name can only be used with "official" bina

question about firefox and iceweasel

2007-03-26 Thread Zbigniew Wiech
What is the reason to split Firefox and Iceweasel ? Technical differences or something with copyright ? What do I lose using "genuine" firefox from Mozilla ? regards zb